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I like breaking the season down into quadrants. I'll throw out some grades and you guys can post your thoughts and even come up w/other categories. This is meant to be a friendly discussion about football.

Browns MVP: Hard to say for sure, but I'm going to vote for Myles Garrett. Our O is way better, but w/out Myles, some of these games might have turned out differently. Also, it's hard to give the MVP to an offensive lineman. Teller would be my guy if the OL wasn't more of a unit than an individual type deal.

Brown's Most Improved: Teller

Brown's Biggest Disappointment: Greedy Williams. Sucks that he can' see the field.

League MVP: Either Rodgers or Wilson. Man, this is tough. I'm going to chicken out and give them Co-MVPs.

League Most Improved: Teller?

League Biggest Disappointment: Carson Wentz. He's not seeing the field well.

Rookie of the Year: Justin Jefferson.

Top 5 Teams:

1. KC
2. GB
3. Seattle
4. Baltimore
5. Buffalo

Bottom 5 Teams:

28. This is tough....Detroit?
29. Denver
30. Washington
31. Giants
32. Jets

Great topic:

Browns MVP: Myles - I cannot even imagine how made the defense would be without him

Brown's Most Improved: Teller

Brown's Biggest Disappointment: Defense

League MVP: Russel Wilson

League Most Improved: Good one, no clue, so I'll go Teller too

League Biggest Disappointment: Carson Wentz

Rookie of the Year: Antoine Winfield Jr. (only beats out Jefferson because of where he was drafted)

Top 5 Teams:

1. KC
2. Seattle
3. GB
4. Baltimore
5. Buffalo

Bottom 5 Teams:

28. Texans
29. Houston
30. Washington
31. Giants
32. Jets

We could have had Winfield.

Who do you mean instead of Houston Texans?

We got Delpit. I’m still happy with that pick

j/c:

Let's stay focused, boys. LOL

It's a fun thread. Not a thread about who we should have drafted. Just roll w/it for once.

What app is good for sports betting?

They keep saying we will lose. And we keep proving them wrong.

About time I get some of that.

LOL.

I don’t have anything to add to your original post. I agree with all of it.

I'm no expert. Milk is probably the guy to ask. I would say Bovada or Bookmaker. I just place a few bets on the FanDuel after I make my Daily Fantasy picks.

top 5:

1. KC
2. GB
3. Seattle
4. Baltimore
5. LA Rams

Bottom 5

28. Denver
29. Washington
30. Texans
31. Jets
32. Giants

Browns MVP: Myles

Brown's Most Improved: Teller

Brown's Biggest Disappointment: Sendejo I expected more from him.

League MVP: Russel Wilson

League Most Improved: Josh Allen

League Biggest Disappointment: Carson Wentz

Rookie of the Year: Justin Jefferson Minnesota Vikings

Top 5 Teams:

1. KC
2. Green Bay
3. Baltimore
4. Seattle
5. Buffalo

Bottom 5 Teams:

28. Jacksonville
29. Houston
30. Washington
31. Giants
32. Jets

Good list...….in my opinion.

49ers belong in the top 5,
Kansas City
Baltimore
San Francisco
??
???

Top 5. Oh, Tennessee belongs in the top 5.

Browns MVP: Myles Garrett. He’s truly impacted each win by a lot.

Brown's Most Improved: Teller .. this one’s easy IMO

Brown's Biggest Disappointment: Defense ... agreed, we’ve caused turnovers but are pretty bad

League MVP: Russel Wilson ... narrowly over Rodgers at this point

League Most Improved: I’m going to say Josh Allen ... he’s a stud right now

League Biggest Disappointment: Cowboys. I thought they’d be a Super Bowl contender. They’ve sucked.

Rookie of the Year: I think Herbert or Burrow will win this award, but Winfield has been a stud too

Top 5 Teams (I think there are 6)

1. Kansas City
2. Green Bay
3. Buffalo
4. Pittsburgh
5. Baltimore
6. Seattle

Bottom 5 Teams (Crazy that we play ALL 5 of these)

28. Washington
29. Houston
30. Jaguars
31. Giants
32. Jets

This will carry a little more weight when we can stop the pass.

I'd say Bovada as well.

I know a couple guys that use Bovada, and they seem to like it.

Browns MVP: Tie - Myles Garrett and Kevin Stefanski

Brown's Most Improved: Teller

Brown's Biggest Disappointment: Greedy Williams.

League MVP: Russell Wilson.

League Most Improved: Josh Allen.

League Biggest Disappointment: Injuries to big name players.

Rookie of the Year: Joe Burrow (if he survives).

Top 5 Teams:

1. KC
2. GB
3. Buffalo
4. Seattle
5. Baltimore

Bottom 5 Teams:

28. Atlanta
29. Denver
30. Washington
31. Giants
32. Jets

when we get greddy back and move Mitchell back to the slot, things should get a lot better.


we still need a stop-gap at safety and someone in the LB core to step up a little more.

Mitchell doesn’t play the slot.

Browns MVP: Myles

Brown's Most Improved: Teller

Brown's Biggest Disappointment: Olivier Vernon

League MVP: I refuse to name a QB since it's always a QB now. They should have a Best QB award separate from the MVP IMO. I'll say Marc Andrews right now. He's like 75% of the Baltimore passing O.

League Most Improved: Josh Allen (ugh QB)

League Biggest Disappointment: Kirk Cousins (ugh, NFL really is almost entirely QB focused now)

Rookie of the Year: Joe Burrow (ugh QB again), runner-up: Jedrick Wills Jr. I'm biased because he's a Brown, but so far he only has 2 sacks allowed and PFF (and my eyes) say that both were Baker's fault. What a vast improvement over last year.

Top 5 Teams:

1. KC
2. Green Bay
3. Seattle
4. Pittsburgh
5. New England
(I'd put Tennessee on the list but with covid dunno going forward)

Bottom 5 Teams:

28. Atlanta
29. Washington
30. Jacksonville
31. Giants
32. Jets

Thats about where I'm at w the exception of Greedy

bet you he will.

Willians is not a slot cb and is the starter when he returns from injury.

He might not according to one of the coaches. I’m surprised that KJ hasn’t taken over for Thomas. Coach Stefanski heaped a bunch of praise on Thomas for how he practices.

Browns MVP: I think it's a tie between Garrett and the Oline play

Brown's Most Improved: Teller

Brown's Biggest Disappointment: Greedy Williams' injury and losing Delpit.

League MVP: Wilson

League Most Improved: Teller

League Biggest Disappointment: Covid, keeping fans from games, players opting out, players getting Covid

Rookie of the Year: Burrow

Top 5 Teams:

1. KC
2. Green Bay
3. Seattle
4. Baltimore
5. Buffalo

Bottom 5 Teams:

28. Atlanta
29. Denver
30. Jacksonville
31. Giants
32. Jets

Apparently they're that bad! I meant Atlanta at 28, but apparently still had Houston on the mind.

The Browns can stop the pass,
It's just, everytime they do it, (with this group)
Except for Ward, and Mitchell, Greedy to an extent,

I wonder how they did it.

And we play Houston the Giants and the Jets along with the Jags

We tend to stop the opposing passing attacks by letting them into the end zone. That's not a good recipe, lol

Houston is better than their record 0-4,
and they shouldn't have fired their coach,

They won their division 4 years or something close to that, in the last 5-6 years or something.
I'm not a texans fan, but I check when the playoffs are about to start.

I like O'Brien as a coach, but he should have never been made GM.

They won the AFC South 4 out of the last 5 years, but their one GM flat out left in 2018 and the guy they hired to replace him was essentially pushed out the next year, making O'Brien the de facto (and later in title) GM for the past year and a half.

2 1st round picks and a 2nd for Tunsil and a bag of chips only to extend Tunsil to the richest O-line contract ever.

Trading Clowney for a 3rd round pick and Barkevius frickin Mingo

Trading a 3rd round pick for Duke Johnson

Trading another 3rd round pick for Gareon Conley

Reaching for the heavens in drafting Tytus Howard in the 1st

Still...trading Hopkins for a 2nd and another RB (with a bloated contract) really does take the cake. Especially since they used a 2nd round pick to get Brandin Cooks.
DeAndre for Brandin Cooks and an injury riddled David Johnson...yeah.

I mean...that's dumpster fire GM work. What choice did they have? Give him another year and a half to see just how far they could fall?

Glad you included Teller. If we continue to make meaningful noise, then he might get some well-deserved love. I, for one, am not certain how good he might become and how extensive his upside may become (it may not yet be realized). But it seems adding Conklin to this scheme, and having backs who take advantage of what the line is managing to do, has a genuine synergy to improve the unit's play, especially Teller. Just win. Work your tails off!

I'm going to add Alex Smith as the comeback player of the year. It doesn't matter if he takes another snap or not - the fact that he came back from 17 surgeries to play again is nearly beyond belief.

I'll second that. What a great example of courage and perseverance.

Good call, man!!!!

Atlanta is a bottom 5 team

Browns MVP: Myles

Brown's Most Improved: Baker

Brown's Biggest Disappointment: Takitaki

League MVP: Rodgers because of the Jordan Love storyline.

League Most Improved: Terry McLaurin

League Biggest Disappointment: On the same note, Dwayne Haskins. Benching a 15th overall pick? wtf?

Rookie of the Year: Burrow if he can pull the O to 6 or so wins like Kyler. Clyde Edwards-Helaire otherwise.

Top 5 Teams:

1. KC
2. GB
3. LAR
4. Buffalo
5. Baltimore

Bottom 5 Teams:

28. Jacksonville
29. Denver
30. Atlanta
31. NYG
32. NYJ

Leagues most improved I'd agree is Teller. He's rated as the best offensive lineman in the league. And he's the one people thought we'd have issues with.

I don't get the Josh Allen most improved, he was doing this same crap last year. I would however add Allen as a possible MVP candidate.

Browns MVP is Garrett defense, and Baker offense. We can't be 4-1 (3-1) without either.

Ceedee Lamb should win rookie of the year. Kid is awesome. Edwards-Helaire possible also. During the second quarter of the season Chase Claypool stepping up.

Wentz definitely most disappointing for me. Get that man some receivers.

Super Bowl? Browns have a really good shot.

Oh, and coach of the year?

Stefanski