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This article brings up some interesting names.
https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-brow...43/#152588643_7
We have some area's everyone is well aware that could use an upgrade.
This article shows some potential targets.
I would love to get the safety from the Saints.
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Myles Jack would be good for us
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Myles Jack and the Safety from the Saints, together, sure would cure a lot of our ills on defense in a hurry.
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These might be the help we need right where we need it. Not willing to shoot the moon for players, but I can see some benefit to buying up what you know, players able to produce results.
Worth the money? Unresolved. Hunt isn't a disappointment.
With the players listed, I will be interested in seeing Berry at work. We are seeing a lot more "position play by committee" than I had anticipated, and it seems to be working so far, at least well enough.
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Myles Jack would be good for us Uh, yes please, I think Jack would take us from wildcard playoff hopeful to playoff wildcard favorite. also it would be fun to say our defense can go for Myles and Myles :-P Also wouldn't mind kicking the tires on Marcus Maye from the Jets. If they decide to go full tank mode (instead of just being terrible) we could maybe get a good deal for him.
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Myles Jack cap number if traded (removing prorated bonus already paid) 2021: 9.75 million 2022: 10.75 million 2023: 11.5 million Worth it.  and it would help the Jaqs absorb Schobert's remaining deal: 2021: 9.9 million 2022: 11.65 million 2023: 13.15 million 2024: 13.65 million Heck, give them both our 3rds in next year's draft.
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Are any of these realistic? Sounds more like the musings of a fan rather than an insider, but I could be wrong.
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We clearly need help at both Lb and S. I think that we might try to improve one of those positions but not both. Taking particular players out of it. Assuming that there is a good Lb and a good S available in trade, they have identical contracts and both of there current teams are asking the exact same thing in trade. Do you trade for the Lb or the S?
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Are any of these realistic? Sounds more like the musings of a fan rather than an insider, but I could be wrong. It sounds like Desmond King could be a possibility but I can't see any of the others unless some team goes 0-fer from now until the trade deadline.
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We clearly need help at both Lb and S. I think that we might try to improve one of those positions but not both. Taking particular players out of it. Assuming that there is a good Lb and a good S available in trade, they have identical contracts and both of there current teams are asking the exact same thing in trade. Do you trade for the Lb or the S? I really don’t think we will look at either position. Joe Woods likes how Sendejo plays, his only public complaint is he wants him to be more consistent. Plus we have Delpit coming back next year. We have Joesph and Harrison at the other safety spot. At linebacker we have two backers who are still coming back from injury. I have a feeling that they will ride with them and hope they improve as they get healthy. Personally I would replace Sendejo, at least on obvious passing downs with Redwine. I can’t imagine he is much worse.
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Two thirds for a top five linebacker?
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It's Jacksonville. They trade for garbage. I can dream.
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I was a big fan of Desmond King coming out of Iowa, and of Myles Jack out of UCLA. Trading for either, or both, would satisfy that fandom in me. I don't know much about Williams.
I could see the Browns making a move, I don't know what position or who.
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King is someone I liked as well. Not sure how he’s performed in the NFL
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I look at our trade deadline possibilities like an 'over/under" betting line:
If we are sitting at 6-2 at the deadline we will absolutely be making a move(s);
If we are sitting at 4-4 (or worse) at the deadline we will not do squadoosh;
If we are at 5-3?
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If we are 5-3, we'll be looking at the other over/unders. If we're still trying to win games 37-34, we'll be making some moves imo.
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Myles Jack and the Safety from the Saints, together, sure would cure a lot of our ills on defense in a hurry. Do you have more information on either one.
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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I was a big fan of Desmond King coming out of Iowa, and of Myles Jack out of UCLA. Trading for either, or both, would satisfy that fandom in me. I don't know much about Williams.
I could see the Browns making a move, I don't know what position or who. King Yes - Jack No
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Myles Jack cap number if traded (removing prorated bonus already paid) 2021: 9.75 million 2022: 10.75 million 2023: 11.5 million Worth it. and it would help the Jaqs absorb Schobert's remaining deal: 2021: 9.9 million 2022: 11.65 million 2023: 13.15 million 2024: 13.65 million Heck, give them both our 3rds in next year's draft. Won't happen - way too much dead cap money (22.5+ million). Why would any team take 2 third rounders for a player they just gave a whole bunch of money to, and take a cap hit of $22m at the same time?
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The Jags don't need the cap space, at all, especially in 2021, so this is highly unlikely to happen. They literally have no motivation to do this at all. However, according to overthecap.com, a Post-June 1 Trade reflects a very different set of numbers. It isn't showing it as a $22M dead cap number, but instead a $13 cap savings. I have no idea how their math is working, but I suppose it relates to the fact that some money has already been accounted for this year and because it is post-June 1 things aren't accelerating forward all at once. They save the remainder of his $13M salary (including workout bonuses). Again, I see them as having no incentive at all to do this, so to convince them, we'd have to offer some pretty good Draft picks, or perhaps an affordable, athletic TE that is buried on our depth chart plus some picks.
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I don't see any of these moves as being realistic. A lot of it will have to do with injuries and how our coaching staff perceives the players we have on our roster. If the coaches see progress in practice over time, they may prefer to stick with the players they have rather than upgrade half way through the process.
I don't believe our record will play into the decision.
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In general, I don't see us making a splash at safety. I wouldn't mind bringing in an aging vet that could do a better job of locking down the position, but I have no idea who that would be at this point.
LB, I think it's slightly more likely they could do something (still highly unlikely). Where I think the difference is our young guys. We were high on Delpit and will look to get him back and finally see what he can do. I think we have room for another LB, even while we see how the young'ins shake out.
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How about the veteran linebackers already on the team.
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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Delpit blew out his Achilles, his return in 2021 should be viewed as questionable because even once he is healed, it is VERY questionable as to whether or not he will be able to play at the level we are expecting from him.
Get a replacement now and if we're lucky, we are flush at the position next year. He's cheap, so it doesn't matter if the veteran at the position is expensive or not.
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The Jags don't need the cap space, at all, especially in 2021, so this is highly unlikely to happen. They literally have no motivation to do this at all. However, according to overthecap.com, a Post-June 1 Trade reflects a very different set of numbers. It isn't showing it as a $22M dead cap number, but instead a $13 cap savings. I have no idea how their math is working, but I suppose it relates to the fact that some money has already been accounted for this year and because it is post-June 1 things aren't accelerating forward all at once. They save the remainder of his $13M salary (including workout bonuses). Again, I see them as having no incentive at all to do this, so to convince them, we'd have to offer some pretty good Draft picks, or perhaps an affordable, athletic TE that is buried on our depth chart plus some picks. All true, thanks, I didn't look up anything but the number. I'm not sure we have that TE though, since we just picked up his option year at I think about 6m next year. That'd put him top 15 or 20 IIRC. I'd think to make this happen we'd have to pay out our wazoos as you call out.
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RUMORS...no thank you I won't waste one second of my time on that crap.
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Delpit blew out his Achilles, his return in 2021 should be viewed as questionable because even once he is healed, it is VERY questionable as to whether or not he will be able to play at the level we are expecting from him.
Get a replacement now and if we're lucky, we are flush at the position next year. He's cheap, so it doesn't matter if the veteran at the position is expensive or not. This is true...I read an article this weak where over 50% of NFL injuries with the Achilles, ends with retirement in one NFL season after the injury...Not good odds....Also found that 65% percent of them occur in training camp...and rookies are at a higher risk of the injury...which unfortunately was Delpit's case.
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hopefully, Baker's ribs are ok and our players heal quick.
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Agreed. Id like to play Pittsbugh with everyone healthy or at least mostly healthy so we have a legit shot at beating them.
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He will almost certainly play, but I wonder if we would have a better chance w/Keenum? I did not like what I saw in crunch time yet again.
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Don't want to let Baker play through it since Keenum is not the long term answer?
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Yeah, you're right. I was just caught up in the moment because I'm excited we are 4 and 1 and I think Baker is our weak link on O.
Hard to get past Stef not trusting him in crunch time. But again, you are right. Baker can improve. Gotta ride him out for the season.
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This is actually a best case scenario if your young QB is going to struggle...you are winning and it's buying time to let him develop.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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he's good. ribs not broken.
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Are there any losing teams who have a talented/vet safety who may want to acquire a mid-round pick?
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The weak link on offense?
What?
Better chance with Keenum?
Just stop already.
Baker is the most important piece on offense right now. Without him we're not 4-1.
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I think Baker is our weak link on O. No, it's our 4th RB.
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He will almost certainly play, but I wonder if we would have a better chance w/Keenum? I did not like what I saw in crunch time yet again. Case Keenum is Ryan Fitzpatrick Jr. He comes in when the starter is hurt, plays well enough for 3-4 games to convince someone he is a starter, and then when paid and forced to play like a starter, he shows that he isn't. And what in crunch time was the issue? He threw 1 INT early in the 3rd quarter. The other was forced when he was hit while throwing. The 2 TD throws were perfect. If you told anyone, including you, before the season we would be at 4-1 with Baker sitting at 9TD and 4INT, no one would have complained.
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