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The Cleveland Browns placed Greedy Williams on injured reserve after the cornerback has missed all five games this season due to a shoulder injury he suffered in training camp.

Browns coach Kevin Stefanski said Monday that Williams continues to have a nerve issue in his shoulder, though is not expected to require surgery.

"He is working so hard in rehab, but just the docs thought it was best to shut him down, see how it responds,'' Stefanski said. "No surgery required at this point. There's a potential that he's back this year, we just don't know.''

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Williams, a second-round pick in 2019, started as a rookie for the Browns last season. Terrance Mitchell has replaced Williams in the starting lineup.

The Browns' secondary took another hit as safety Ronnie Harrison, who returned an interception for a touchdown on Sunday, was placed in concussion protocol. Harrison started for Karl Joseph after he injured his hamstring in practice last week.

Browns right guard Wyatt Teller, meanwhile, strained his right calf against the Colts and is "week-to-week,'' Stefanski said. Quarterback Baker Mayfield injured his ribs in Sunday's victory and was "sore" Monday, but Stefanski said he thinks Mayfield will "fight through this" and was optimistic he would will play in Week 6 against the unbeaten Pittsburgh Steelers.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Hate this for the kid, but he just can't get on the field

Bad news n Greedy - good news for Teller.

So it does sound like something weird happened either with the injury or with the rehab. The way I read it, the nerves aren't cooperating with the timetable re: his return to the field, and this wasn't expected.


Let's say we got him back for our next game. Does Greedy significantly improve the overall play of the secondary?

he absolutely does

How so? I get he's probably better than Mitchell (although I know many would argue even that). Does Mitchell slide over to the slot? Someone on here said Money only plays the outside, but I thought he was a better slot corner (or I could be thinking of TJ Carrie from before?). If he's only an outside corner, then we're just trading him for Greedy, and not upgrading our slot guy or (more importantly) our back-end.

Carrie played the slot last year and Mitchell hardly played unless Greedy or Ward were out.

Very Frustrating that we can't keep any of these young secondary players healthy.

Gives us a pretty clear idea of pecking order. Hope we find something decent for the back-end, especially with the success the Stoolers have had. Need some better pressure and some takeaways. And about three gross of tackles for Christmas. Healup, boys!

Ward Williams Mitchel > Ward Mitchel Thomas

Mitchell was projected into the slot before Williams got hurt.

Johnson was, I believe.

This is correct. Mitchell was projected to be off the team before William was hurt.

Tereence Mitchell is much more reliable, if you had to lose one as "off the team" I'd rather it

Well don't waive Mitchell, he is reliable.

Greedy get well soon.

Greedy Williams offers an update on his shoulder injury

https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2020/12/15/browns-cb-greedy-williams-shoulder-injury-update/

After weeks of being out of sight and largely out of mind, Browns cornerback Greedy Williams offered an update on his injury status just before his teammates took to the field against the Baltimore Ravens on Monday night.

Williams has been on injured reserve since October with a shoulder injury. He first suffered the injury on August 24th, a rough day on the injury front during the early part of the Browns’ training camp. The team has offered no real details other than Williams has been trying to rehabilitate the shoulder and get on the field.

The second-year corner tweeted out that he’s fighting with axillary nerve damage in his shoulder. It’s an injury that can cause numbness and a loss of strength in the shoulder and down the arm.
Greedy Williams ™️
@Greedy
This what I’ve been fight this season this just takes time to recover. I’ll be back ASAP❤️
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Greedy Williams ™️
@Greedy
· Dec 14
Replying to @koreymigdalgma1
Axillary nerve damage in the shoulder.


Terrance Mitchell has played in his place. With injuries to other defensive backs, the depth chart has been stretched quite thin with Williams missing the entire season.

It would be awfully nice to get Ward, Greedy, and Delpit all back next year ... though that seems like a long shot

Yeah, I cant see Greedy returning this year, even if they say he has a shot. That’s a lot of time missed to come back for 2 games or whatever

You add Andrew Billings to that and that's quite a boost to the D. Not to mention the draft and FA.

Billings is someone I keep forgetting about as well, good point

You put Andrew Billings on our line with the guys we've got now and WOW that's quite a D-line. Now you add a couple of good LB's and a solid CB or 2 and FS along with the guys who come back from injury, hopefully, and that's a formidable defense maybe a top 10 D. We have to make the right moves. Our O can compete with anyone right now.

I don't think we need near that much. We know we are getting Billings next year. On top of that I think we only need to add one competent pass rushing DE to play opposite Garrett, a fast above average LB and an NFL starter caliber FS.

That is 3 players between FA and the draft.

Vernon looking like he's pulling his head out of his butt could convince Berry to drop DE down the list of needs. It's still there, but not as urgent.

I'd put a starter-caliber FS and starting-caliber CB above anything needed in front of them.

I have to ask : Just who do you see playing a full season in the defensive backfield next season ?? Starters and back-up.

Ward and Greedy are injury prone. When healthy they are a great tandem but can you depend on them? Not sure if Harrison is injury prone or not that's why I think we need another 2 capable CB's besides 2 LB's and a FS. I'd try and keep Vernon if it is a team friendly contract because of his injury history and age. I'd still draft or sign Aa DE even if we kept him. Most liklely sign one in FA

Wish him the best. Maybe rehab and training will leave him stronger, healthy. and able to resist further injury to his shoulder. Anxious to see him back.

I hope Greedy gets well and comes back 100%. However, that is a difficult injury to come back from so we have to go into next year assuming he won't be back and sign or draft accordingly. JMO

I am anticipating everyone that played vs the Ravens coming. back except Sendejo. I am expecting Ward back and Harrison. I am not counting on Delpit or Greedy but one would be a nice bonus.

Our defensive backfield is not great by any means but if we put a good FS back there then we immediately upgrade to okay. Add in a pass rushing defensive end and suddenly we are acceptable. Maybe even solid. Still not good but I think good enough. Especially if that LB we add can cover TE's

At this point, there's little chance of him even being in football shape. I'd say that, heading into Week 15, there is a zero percent chance of him returning even for the play offs.

I'd love to be proven wrong and have him be able to play well enough to displace Mitchell, but I do not see it happening.

I agree. It’s hard enough to return after a few weeks, let alone MONTHS.

Best hope is that he can make it for next year, though IMO it’ll be tough

After this much time, step one will be getting his cardio & speed back, step two (at the same time) will be getting the arm/shoulder strength back. Nothing a solid offseason can't easily correct, as long as he can get back to work by say, mid-March.

We should also be seeing what we have in DE, Curtis Weaver (Boise State). Claimed him when Dolphins put him on waivers because of a season ending foot injury. Miami's 2020 5th round pick and Mountain West Conference 2019 defensive player of the year.

Maybe he should consult with Ronnie Lott, have the arm removed at the shoulder and get out there and ball out!

Certainly we will hedge our bet with a FA or draft pick. PS isn't good enough there, at least I am not confident in that solution meself.

I think we'll try to bring in someone in free agency and maybe bolter the DLine at the top of the Draft; though we could easily come back to CB in the 2nd or 3rd rounds.

Worst case scenario, we end up with too many really good CB's.... that's a problem we'd be okay with having, I'm sure.

GC. Gosh, you mean if Greedy comes back they are going to sit Mitchell on the bench?

Are they nuts?

How could they not see Mitchell is one of their best db's probably The best. No wordin way would I let Greedy come back and not earn a spot from some other lesser guy,
Have Greedy take Tavierre's snaps
Mitchell has been out there every game!

Even with one arm he will be better than Stewart.

*or leg

Why in the world would we not expect Greedy to continue to get injured?

You simply cannot count on Greedy Williams.

I feel the same way. Ward is a very good CB but he gets hurt a lot too. That's why we need capable back-ups. I don't believe Greedy can stay on the field enough to be a starter anyway.

From what I've read, this injury can take "up to 3-4 months of rehab". If full range of motion and recovery of strength isn't restored by then - it may require surgery.

We're a week away from 4 months with Greedy.