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Think he was referring to Richardson
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I think that was a joke....a good one! 
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Didn't we turn that #1 we got for Richardson into Justin Gilbert? Another wasted 1st rd. pick
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Didn't we turn that #1 we got for Richardson into Justin Gilbert? Another wasted 1st rd. pick I don't know. My theory is that living in the past is a waste of time. No sense looking back. You can't change anything.
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Didn't we turn that #1 we got for Richardson into Justin Gilbert? Another wasted 1st rd. pick I don't know. My theory is that living in the past is a waste of time. No sense looking back. You can't change anything. True, but you can learn from your past successes and failures...
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I’m wondering if we do try and get a speedy WR now. Even if it’s John Ross. We need that aspect of our team
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That’s Hodge’s role. I’ll take him over Ross everyday
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we desperately need 1-2 LB and it sounds like another WR with OBJ's knee injury.
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we desperately need 1-2 LB and it sounds like another WR with OBJ's knee injury. Anybody else notice that Baker is a much better QB with OBJ out? Lets trade OBJ for a good safety or LBer.
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we desperately need 1-2 LB and it sounds like another WR with OBJ's knee injury. Anybody else notice that Baker is a much better QB with OBJ out? Lets trade OBJ for a good safety or LBer. Can't deny OBJ's Talent but if he is out I believe we are fine at WR ... JMHO
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we desperately need 1-2 LB and it sounds like another WR with OBJ's knee injury. Anybody else notice that Baker is a much better QB with OBJ out? Lets trade OBJ for a good safety or LBer. Can't deny OBJ's Talent but if he is out I believe we are fine at WR ... JMHO I don't know if Baker's int was a bad throw or OBJ running his own route. Looked to me like it was meant to be a back shoulder.
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Higgins helps. Not sure what changed it up. Exciting to me to watch this today. No lead is safe with this secondary and LB's.
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we desperately need 1-2 LB and it sounds like another WR with OBJ's knee injury. Anybody else notice that Baker is a much better QB with OBJ out? Lets trade OBJ for a good safety or LBer. Someone else opined that Baker seems to like big targets. All QBs do of course, but for a shorter QB, there’s a comfort level the bigger wideouts can offer.
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we desperately need 1-2 LB and it sounds like another WR with OBJ's knee injury. Anybody else notice that Baker is a much better QB with OBJ out? Lets trade OBJ for a good safety or LBer. I'm not saying we should do this, but how much is OBJ's salary??
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Didn't we turn that #1 we got for Richardson into Justin Gilbert? Another wasted 1st rd. pick I don't know. My theory is that living in the past is a waste of time. No sense looking back. You can't change anything. True, but you can learn from your past successes and failures... No doubt, but you can't eliminate mistakes. No real sense in talking about it 2-3 years later. The comments sounded more like sour grapes, IMO.
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we won't be able to deal OBJ. he is injured
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Didn't we turn that #1 we got for Richardson into Justin Gilbert? Another wasted 1st rd. pick I don't know. My theory is that living in the past is a waste of time. No sense looking back. You can't change anything. True, but you can learn from your past successes and failures... No doubt, but you can't eliminate mistakes. No real sense in talking about it 2-3 years later. The comments sounded more like sour grapes, IMO. My comment? No sour grapes there...
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we won't be able to deal OBJ. he is injured Correct. That notion needs to be put to rest.
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Didn't we turn that #1 we got for Richardson into Justin Gilbert? Another wasted 1st rd. pick I don't know. My theory is that living in the past is a waste of time. No sense looking back. You can't change anything. True, but you can learn from your past successes and failures... No doubt, but you can't eliminate mistakes. No real sense in talking about it 2-3 years later. The comments sounded more like sour grapes, IMO. bb32 doesn’t do sour grapes, peen.
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Didn't we turn that #1 we got for Richardson into Justin Gilbert? Another wasted 1st rd. pick Sounds about right for where this franchise was at the time.
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we desperately need 1-2 LB and it sounds like another WR with OBJ's knee injury. Anybody else notice that Baker is a much better QB with OBJ out? Lets trade OBJ for a good safety or LBer. Can't deny OBJ's Talent but if he is out I believe we are fine at WR ... JMHO I don't know if Baker's int was a bad throw or OBJ running his own route. Looked to me like it was meant to be a back shoulder. It was a good decision (OBJ 1-1), and a terrible throw (OBJ was on the outside and ahead of the defender... Baker basically threw it to the DB).
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On that play, it sounds like Duty is looking for a fall guy to excuse a terrible throw. The throw was behind and right to the DB.
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The only thing that I would think could excuse the throw is something happened at launch (dude in Baker's face affecting release). That ball gets pushed a little further and it's money.
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Houston has a problem.
They are a bad team going nowhere.
JJ. Watt is not happy. He is 31 and hates losing.
Houston will be under a new regime. Watt a vet signed a 6 year deal. He will be a FA 2022. His base salary for 2020 is $15.5 mil.
Let's make them an offer.
We need pressure from someone besides Myles.
JJ wants out. He wants to win games and be in the playoffs.
Hard to say what it would take. My guess is a second maybe a first. It is worth exploring.
It is the type of deal that gets done when core talent is on bad teams and the player is over 30.
JJ would help the Browns. We need constant pressure from the front so the back end is not exposed.
Food for thought.
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And then he can play his brother 2x a year. 
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Houston has a problem.
They are a bad team going nowhere.
JJ. Watt is not happy. He is 31 and hates losing.
Houston will be under a new regime. Watt a vet signed a 6 year deal. He will be a FA 2022. His base salary for 2020 is $15.5 mil.
Let's make them an offer.
We need pressure from someone besides Myles.
JJ wants out. He wants to win games and be in the playoffs.
Hard to say what it would take. My guess is a second maybe a first. It is worth exploring.
It is the type of deal that gets done when core talent is on bad teams and the player is over 30.
JJ would help the Browns. We need constant pressure from the front so the back end is not exposed.
Food for thought.
Offer them a 2nd and a 4th
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JJ is most likely a HOFer.
A great player who has had multiple injuries.
At his age and where he is in his career. He would perfect in a DE rotation. Keep him fresh. Let him rush.
He plays with heart and intensity. He would add an edge to the defense.
He would be a great add.
The question becomes. Would Berry pursue? And would the Texans be interested in moving him?
I think the Browns have to make some kind of move on defense.
They can not continue to give up the yards and points.
The trade deadline is close. We are 5-2 in the hunt.
We may not be able to upgrade all this year. But JJ has some years left that should produce.
We went after Clowney. Although younger than JJ. I would take JJ all day long over Clowney.
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Everson Griffin is also available I believe
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Offer them a 2nd and a 4th [/quote] It's a shame Bill O'Brien isn't still in charge. Based in his trade of an in the prime of his life Hopkins, we might have got JJ for a 7th rounder.
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If we're looking for rotational help on the edge, Clay III is still out there. Wouldn't cost you any draft picks either.
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If we're looking for rotational help on the edge, Clay III is still out there. Wouldn't cost you any draft picks either. If he hasn’t been signed yet, I’d have to assume he’s washed up. (Unless he was injured or something, I don’t recall)
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https://texanswire.usatoday.com/2020/10/07/jack-easterby-texans-interim-gm/A new head coach and a new GM will be hired.
Hard to say if they will make this kind of trade without a new hire in place?
I don't know how they will handle the interim time or who has the real power.
My guess is as an organization given their situation they would want to accumulate picks.
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If we're looking for rotational help on the edge, Clay III is still out there. Wouldn't cost you any draft picks either. If he hasn’t been signed yet, I’d have to assume he’s washed up. (Unless he was injured or something, I don’t recall) He had 8 sacks in 13 games last year at the age of 33. Considering the genes in that family, and fact that his father played to age 40, I would guess he still has some gas in the tank. Probably wants something closer to his family in Cali would be more likely why he didn't sign, IMO.
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If it's about family, you don't think there'd be a pull to Cleveland?
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JJ. Watt is not happy. He is 31 and hates losing.
Houston will be under a new regime. Watt a vet signed a 6 year deal. He will be a FA 2022. His base salary for 2020 is $15.5 mil.
Watt's injury
I'm not going to pretend to know what kind of a trade or who the Browns might trade for that would be considered "a wise decision"...but a trade for an often injured veteran warrior like Watt does carry a degree of risk...
...I would not risk a lot of "future capital" (aka draft picks) to take Watt's contract off of the Texan's hands.
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At 31 with his history of injury there is risk.
At the same time he is healthy now.
If he was used in rotation. He could add a lot.
It would all depend on how or if a deal could happen.
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If it's about family, you don't think there'd be a pull to Cleveland? Probably so in normal times, but maybe not in this bleep-show of a year.
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Everson Griffin is also available I believe There is some talk that Dallas is willing to trade him.
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