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I don’t think they’ll do anything crazy. Atleast I hope they don’t.

But let em whine. Lord knows the left did when trump won. Just wear a mask and social distance.

Oh I don't care one way or the other about their feelings. They can cry and whine all they want. But if their protests turn violent, then they should face the same 'law and order' they love to sick on others at every turn.

Putin Isn’t Ready to Accept Trump Lost the Election

While many world leaders are congratulating Joe Biden, the Kremlin says it will wait for official results.

The Kremlin says it will wait until the official result of the US election before commenting, and noted the legal challenges mounted by President Donald Trump.

The Associated Press called Pennsylvania for Joe Biden on Saturday, putting him above the 270 Electoral College votes he needed for victory. But Trump is refusing to concede, claiming without evidence that Biden and his allies are stealing the election.

While many world leaders were quick to congratulate President-elect Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris on their victory, Russian President Vladimir Putin is yet to publicly acknowledge the result.

According to Reuters, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters on a conference call that it was better to wait for the official results before commenting, a process that could take many more weeks. He added that Russia is ready to work with any US leader and attempt to normalise relations between the states.

Multiple US inquiries concluded that Russia interfered in the 2016 US election to boost then-candidate Trump’s campaign. As recently as September, Trump expressed affinity with the Russian president. "I like Putin, he likes me,” Trump said on the campaign trail.

Biden meanwhile was serving as Vice President under Barack Obama in 2014, when US-Russian relations hit a new low point as Russia annexed Crimea from Ukraine.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/bvxz7m/vladimir-putin-donald-trump-joe-biden-russia

smh

That ain't right, Peen. He was respectful in his points. Clearly when he said "fight," he did not mean it in a literal sense.

The discussion is about the majority of his generation, which I assume are millennials. Clearly, the majority of millennials were not out looting and rioting this summer as you refer. I would actually believe that the majority of rioters were not even millennials, but Gen Z. Can't confirm that, though.

You also said his point on education is irrelevant. How so? If you don't think the skyrocketing cost of education is a problem, then I don't know what to say. Costs of education of gone up a J curve over time. I don't think college should be free and I actually think the solution is that the USG shouldn't give out loans the way it does, but to say "irrelevant" is a microcosm of how poorly we are treating each other, especially when we try to have meaningful discussions, which he was trying to do.

I'm a millennial, too (1983). Married at 25, two kids now, bought a house at 26. Law degree, as you know. I've strongly opposed points on this board brought up by people who consider themselves liberal over the years. I generally identify with ideals that are more conservative, but I always have. I think that DC probably had views most in line with mine.

However, I have divorced equating conservative to Republican, especially with this past administration. I am no huge fan of Biden, but Trump in my eyes enabled and unveiled an ugliness on the Republican side that I hadn't witnessed before. To Rocket's point, my loyalty is to my beliefs, not to a party, and I advocated for my beliefs at the ballot box last week, and while my beliefs are ever-evolving, I never plan on being less passive in my advocacy.

Cool, now I know a guy the next time I go to court for speeding.

So your point is that these Televangelist types are clowns?

I’m actually scared to call them clowns.

That just really...disturbed me.

I’d love to be a fly on the wall when this charlatan meets God.

And as a Christian, for me that's what it all comes down to. That laugh isn't the only thing that embarrassingly fake going on on that stage.

They should laugh like that while they revoke his tax exempt status. Dude is worth $300 million.

As a Christian it’s frauds like him that have driven me from the church. Not God, whom I still have a relationship with... but the church. The congregation of Sunday believers but Monday bigots, frauds, and charlatans.
I’ll stand in the forrest amongst His creation and praise Him. I feel no need to close myself in a building filled with those types.

Georgia GOP lieutenant governor denies 'credible examples' of fraud in election

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/52...les-of-fraud-in

probably won't matter until trump supporters hear it from dear leader.

Ha! I haven't done criminal/traffic in years. Knowing me, I'd probably be on the docket there with you.

Honestly, until the last 4 or 5 years, I didn't give the evangelical world a moments thought. But I can see that what they have done is turned into Monsters. I mean that. I'm not just kidding. Copeland is simply the most recent to act in this manner.

Personally, so many of them fly around in Jets and live in mansion that I wonder how, how in the hell can we not tax them...

If they wanna play politics, then let them pay for the right just like I do.

And Trump Fires Mark Esper...

I wonder what Esper did to tick him off

trump was ticked off at him this summer for publicly stating that the military shouldn't be used to tamper down on riots. so he's been on the hot seat ever since.

i dunno what the point in firing the dude now is, but im sure Esper isn't exactly upset, nor shocked.

And I am sure the Dems will do something about that, unlike what happened in cities the last 6 months.

The fracture is wide, and about to get wider I am afraid.

I HATE politics, all it does is divide Americans, but someone just sent this to me so here it is, and I won't argue with you about it, take it for what it's worth ...

https://www.facebook.com/679725848/videos/10157509039765849/

You can maybe link to the full clip -- which is just him encouraging people to vote?

https://youtu.be/C6u1uKznCYw?t=1154

Of course -- you could also not do that.... if for some reason you don't like context... (can't imagine why)

I don't mean for this post to be political, but I'm insanely glad he's gone. I work for the DoD. Esper was a lobbyist and defense contractor executive. He was a driving force behind Shay Assad getting the ax, which was awful for taxpayers. The guy was a perfect example of a fox running the hen house.

I was just reporting the news... Esper would have been gone as soon as Biden took over anyway...

I wasn't knocking you, just posting my thoughts on the firing. And, yeah, I'm sure he'd be gone. He obviously did something to tick Trump off.

Trump has told advisers he's thinking about running in 2024: report

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/52...-in-2024-report

I hope he does. And for whatever reason he doesn’t win the gop nomination, I hope he runs 3rd party.

This might be more wishful thinking/trying hard to see the good in everyone, but I wonder what nomination run 2 for Trump would look like, and how he'd do.

Along those lines, I don't think enough is being made of Trump losing the vote, but down-ballot Republicans doing as well as they did.

I think it will be highlighted more once the high of trump losing wears off.

Eve and I brought it up; the Dems are already fighting each other due to the republicans making a few gains in the house.

Unfortunately, since the squad won all their seats, there’s no incentive for them to tone down the rhetoric. Gotta remember, they were taking shots at their own people when they won in 2018, as well.

I’m not sure we’re gonna get a clear picture of what everything really looks like until
The senate runoffs in GA, but the 2022 mid terms is gonna be the true referendum on the Democratic Party, much like 2018 was for the republicans.

Atleast in the house.

Donald Trump/Alex Jones 2024 on the Q ticket...

I think it was AOC that basically said now that Trump is out that the gloves are off between her and the Dems. Apparently she agreed to put a sock in it until the Oval Office was squared away.

Progressives in general HAD to do that to get rid of Trump. But I think that BS is about to end too. Progressives are not going to support the DNC when they repeatedly spit in our faces. 80% plus of the country wants M4A, Biden will try to breath life into the ACA instead. This only protects health insurance companies from going the way of the dinosaur. It will do little to nothing to rein in out of control costs and greed.

Same with several other progressive policies. None of them will be part of the admin/platform we helped to get elected. Progressives are the 'socialism' whipping boys of the center left. They only love us when they need us.

Heard that Biden overwhelmingly won first time voters and... GET THIS... non college white men!

Apparently those two demographics put Biden over the top and not blacks, black women, or latinos. No idea how true this is, but it will/should change the dem perspective if true.

AND Arizona was delivered by native americans.

I'm not really sure how much there is to gain digging into this type of stuff (interesting as it might be). I think it just comes down to lots and lots of people that either don't vote or don't vote blue really didn't want another 4 years of Trump.

It is not true. Trump won non-College White Men by HUGE margins (emphasis Trump's)

https://www.ft.com/content/69f3206f-37a7-4561-bebf-5929e7df850d

What you probably heard (which is correct) - is that one of the demographic groups Biden improved most among (compared to Clinton) was non-College White men. Trump beat Clinton in that demographic by something like 45 points, he only beat Biden by 35 points -- which was a big part of why Biden won in WI/MI/PA.

we're gonna have to do a serious breakdown of the map, cause looking at it right now.....we have a problem.

all the progressives won their elections.

the dems who endorsed medicare for all in swing states won their elections.

the dems that lost were the wishy washy ones in red districts/states.

its why its so hard to use the same map to judge the results of the house with the results of the general ticket.

So he has admitted he has lost?

think of it more like all the settlements he was apart of due to being sued.

yea, he lost, but he doesn't have to admit it.

This is going around Facebook. I thought I’d share it here as it mirrors my thoughts....

“Dear White Evangelicals,
I need to tell you something: People have had it with you. They’re done. They want nothing to do with you any longer, and here’s why: They see your hypocrisy, your inconsistency, your incredibly selective mercy, and your thinly veiled supremacy.
For eight years they watched you relentlessly demonize a black President; a man faithfully married for 26 years; a doting father and husband without a hint of moral scandal or the slightest whiff of infidelity. They watched you deny his personal faith convictions, argue his birthplace, and assail his character—all without cause or evidence.
They saw you brandish Scriptures to malign him and use the laziest of racial stereotypes in criticizing him. And through it all, White Evangelicals—you never once suggested that God placed him where he was, you never publicly offered prayers for him and his family, you never welcomed him to your Christian Universities, you never gave him the benefit of the doubt in any instance, you never spoke of offering him forgiveness or mercy, your evangelists never publicly thanked God for his leadership, your pastors never took to the pulpit to offer solidarity with him, you never made any effort to affirm his humanity or show the love of Jesus to him in any quantifiable measure.
You violently opposed him at every single turn—without offering a single ounce of the grace you claim as the heart of your faith tradition. You jettisoned Jesus as you dispensed damnation on him.
And yet you give carte blanche to a white Republican man so riddled with depravity, so littered with extramarital affairs, so unapologetically vile, with such a vast resume of moral filth—that the mind boggles.
And the change in you is unmistakable. It has been an astonishing conversion to behold: a being born again.
With him, you suddenly find religion. With him, you’re now willing to offer full absolution. With him, all is forgiven without repentance or admission. With him, you’re suddenly able to see some invisible, deeply buried heart. With him, sin has become unimportant, compassion no longer a requirement. With him, you see only Providence.
And White Evangelicals, all those people who have had it with you—they see it all clearly. They recognize the toxic source of your inconsistency.
They see that pigmentation and party are your sole deities.They see that you aren’t interested in perpetuating the love of God or emulating the heart of Jesus. They see that you aren’t burdened to love the least, or to be agents of compassion, or to care for your Muslim, gay, African, female, or poor neighbors as yourself.
They see that all you’re really interested in doing is making a God in your own ivory image and demanding that the world bow down to it. They recognize this all about white, Republican Jesus—not dark-skinned Jesus of Nazareth.
And I know you don’t realize it, but you’re digging your own grave in these days; the grave of your very faith tradition.
Your willingness to align yourself with cruelty is a costly marriage. Yes, you’ve gained a Supreme Court seat, a few months with the Presidency as a mouthpiece, and the cheap high of temporary power—but you’ve lost a whole lot more.
You’ve lost an audience with millions of wise, decent, good-hearted, faithful people with eyes to see this ugliness. You’ve lost any moral high ground or spiritual authority with a generation. You’ve lost any semblance of Christlikeness. You’ve lost the plot. And most of all you’ve lost your soul.
I know it’s likely you’ll dismiss these words. The fact that you’ve even made your bed with such malevolence, shows how far gone you are and how insulated you are from the reality in front of you. But I had to at least try to reach you. It’s what Jesus would do.

John Pavlovitz
(Christian pastor and author)

This is wholesome.

I'd be curious to see how many 'normal' pastors and priests actively support Trump. The mega-church pastors are (and always have been) a different breed altogether... and it's not hard to see why they can so easily ally with Trump. Their both phony and fake, using spectacle to substitute for actual substance. Manipulative frauds. You can't lose what you never had.