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Could be when this organization gave QB's time we won ... Otto Graham, Frank Ryan, Bill Nelson, Brian Sipe and Bernie Kosar

Nail meet head.

My biggest reason to keep Mayfield
Kizer
Kessler
Berry maybe the worst key personnel decision maker on Qbs.

If Andrew Berry gets credit for the QB decisions others made while he was in the front office does that mean he also gets credit for Andrew Luck?

Also, if we did move on from Baker, which I wouldn’t endorse at this point in time, I would assume we would go after a veteran QB and not draft a rookie to start.

In addition to Baker, the Browns have to decide to extend Chubb and Ward, as well. Additionally, Ogunjobi will reach free agency.

I think extending Ward is a no-brainer.

Chubb is interesting because he is our most productive offensive player, but we all know the NFL mistreats RBs.

I frankly have no idea what the Browns will do w/Ogunjobi, but I would not be shocked to see him walk.

Thoughts?

I hope we mirror something with Chubb the way the Titans have done with Henry. This becomes especially valid if we see the offense start to show another uptick with Chubb coming back from injury.

Here is Henry's contract.



You can read the yearly breakdowns here: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tennessee-titans/derrick-henry-18994/

Thanks Vers. I think that's a fair ballpark value for what we should offer Chubb. Not sure what everyone else thinks?

This! 100%.

Reward Nick Chubb and Denzel Ward.
Have confidence in Baker and let him develop properly by giving him time.

This organization needs stability. You don’t install calmness and trust in the locker room by switching players as soon as the boat rocks a little bit. This is Bakers first season with KS. Give both of them time to grow together and have another re evaluation after 2022.

Alright, hi, first post here; refugee from another Browns board.

Admittedly I hate Baker Mayfield. Not going to deny that, I was inside AT&T Stadium when the pick was announced and even as an absolute draft junkie I was too pissed to stick around past pick 15.

But you have to pick up Mayfield's fifth year option. The fact is the Browns actually have a legitimate team for the first time since the Belichick era. And I'd rather have a solid team with a question mark at quarterback than a crap team and a question mark there-- which is what we've seen since 1999.

As eotab said, they aren't going to be in a position to get an immediate draft day franchise QB anytime soon: the offense outside the QB position is too good for that to happen and the defense has enough going for it (read: Miles Garrett) to at least not completely suck.

In the back of my mind (and right out of my mouth to those that know me in real life) there's a lot of "See I told you so" coming from me on Baker Mayfield. But this team isn't in a suitable position to move on from him. Give him year five, but start making contingency plans in case he ultimately doesn't work out.

In regard to mac and PastorMarc on the fact that no one has been given time to develop, I say "Yes, but..." How many NFL teams do that at all now? The league has become a a win-now, snap-judgment entity. And I can't tell you how many of my coworkers (I work in a sports-related field) thought in November of 2016 that Jared Goff was at the level of JaMarcus Russell. When coaches and front office staves are regularly canned after two years (sometimes one) there's a desperation to win immediately. I don't believe necessarily that winning organizations are patient organizations-- because patient orgs no longer exist-- so much as they're the lucky ones who catch lightning in a bottle right away. Immediate success garners you chance after chance even through the screw-ups; but a rocky start guarantees nothing but doubt. I'd agree with you: I think more patience is needed. Unfortunately in an era where everyone fancies himself an expert and claims to have a quick and immediate fix (and one which typically fails), patience is nowhere to be found.

So I'm with Floquinho and Versatile Dog and the others that seem to make the general consensus. Extend Chubb, but keep Hunt or someone like him to give him a break when necessary. I questioned taking Ward at #4 but he has panned out and still has a lot ahead of him, so keep him around too. And while I will never be a fan of his, give Mayfield that fifth year. See if he can develop something with Stefanski. The quick trigger approach has failed repeatedly, so what harm is there in some patience? Unless you know you're going to be in a position to acquire a definite franchise QB, don't just cut him loose. Don't let "perfection" be the enemy of "good enough for now."

I believe Denzel Ward will get his 5th year option, which not many are talking about, as for Baker ??? but either way he will our QB through 2021 IMO