I respectfully disagree with this. I'll just say this, I know attorneys who work for PWM&A and I'll just point to Ohio Rules of Professional Conduct 1.16(b).
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I respectfully disagree with this. I'll just say this, I know attorneys who work for PWM&A and I'll just point to Ohio Rules of Professional Conduct 1.16(b).
Ok. Whatever. I’m still betting trump stiffed them on a retainer payment and they walked.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
FEC chairman debunks MSM claims of ‘no fraud’, says counting illegal votes can make election ‘illegitimate’
OAN Newsroom UPDATED 7:50 AM PT – Thursday, November 12, 2020
The chairman of the Federal Elections Commission (FEC), Trey Trainor, said reports of voter fraud in key battleground states are credible.
In a recent interview, he pointed out that Democrat officials removing GOP poll watchers from polling locations is a violation of state law and federal court orders.
“When you have claims of, you know, 10,000 people who don’t live in the state of Nevada having voted in Neveda, you have the video…they’re (poll workers) either duplicating a spoiled ballot there or they’re in the process of marking a ballot that came in blank for a vote,” Trainor explained.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 12, 2020
The FEC chief added, he agrees with the Trump campaign’s lawsuits and said their observers were denied meaningful access. Trainor also said questionable actions by the Democrats may render this election illegitimate.
“That’s a process that is to be observed by election observers, the law allows those observers to be in there,” he continued. “And if they’re not then the law is not being followed, making this an illegitimate election.”
In recent days, the mainstream media has continued to claim there was no voter fraud in this year’s elections, but Trainor’s statements reveal this election is far from over.
Every one of the lawsuits filed here, when asked in court, the Trump campaign has said that they were represented at the locations, and have then subsequently dropped the lawsuit. It's a ruse. He has to stay relevant, and he has to feed his paranoid base to try to keep this going.
Trainor also claims that churches can endorse and back political candidates, which is false. He is a Trump lackey.
I respectfully disagree with this. I'll just say this, I know attorneys who work for PWM&A and I'll just point to Ohio Rules of Professional Conduct 1.16(b).
Agree. White-shoe law firms are most certainly not going to represent the Trump campaign without collecting their retainer upfront. Maybe the guy on the billboard falls for that from Trump.
This was about the rule of law and respectability of the firm.
If we are honest, there ios only one person trying to steal this election. That is Donald Trump.
I'd say, if we're being honest, Trump even knows he's lost, but he'll grift from his base as long as they'll keep donating to his "legal campaign" that is actually going to the RNC and to payoff his campaign debts.
He'll use them until he can no longer or it no longer serves his purpose.
Sickening. They want to point to the left for election fraud, yet pull this crap behind the scenes. Graham should go to jail.
A familiar strategy from and by the Cult of Trump -- aggressively accuse others of doing what they are actually doing themselves. Seen it time and again.
Fitting that this Presidency ends with more irrefutable evidence that #FACTSDONTMATTER
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
I respectfully disagree with this. I'll just say this, I know attorneys who work for PWM&A and I'll just point to Ohio Rules of Professional Conduct 1.16(b).
I suppose, but remember it's the PA office of that firm in Pittsburgh... Does that still apply...d
By the way, a few years ago, I was thinking of suing a company that provided our heath care insurance. I contacted several attorneys and in each case, they wanted me to pay upfront. In all cases, the amount they wanted was way higher than what I lost. so I declined...
They were all Akron area attorneys. Just and FYI
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I respectfully disagree with this. I'll just say this, I know attorneys who work for PWM&A and I'll just point to Ohio Rules of Professional Conduct 1.16(b).
I suppose, but remember it's the PA office of that firm in Pittsburgh... Does that still apply...d
By the way, a few years ago, I was thinking of suing a company that provided our heath care insurance. I contacted several attorneys and in each case, they wanted me to pay upfront. In all cases, the amount they wanted was way higher than what I lost. so I declined...
They were all Akron area attorneys. Just and FYI
That is how it works. Attorneys have to weigh the chances of judgement in their favor v how long it might take to reach said judgement.
Insurance companies have dozens of top attorneys on payroll. They are paying them to do something or nothing. They can draw things out a long time. A lot longer than the local attorney can afford to invest hundreds or thousands of hours and possibly not receive remedy in their favor.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
I respectfully disagree with this. I'll just say this, I know attorneys who work for PWM&A and I'll just point to Ohio Rules of Professional Conduct 1.16(b).
I suppose, but remember it's the PA office of that firm in Pittsburgh... Does that still apply...d
By the way, a few years ago, I was thinking of suing a company that provided our heath care insurance. I contacted several attorneys and in each case, they wanted me to pay upfront. In all cases, the amount they wanted was way higher than what I lost. so I declined...
They were all Akron area attorneys. Just and FYI
That is how it works. Attorneys have to weigh the chances of judgement in their favor v how long it might take to reach said judgement.
Insurance companies have dozens of top attorneys on payroll. They are paying them to do something or nothing. They can draw things out a long time. A lot longer than the local attorney can afford to invest hundreds or thousands of hours and possibly not receive remedy in their favor.
The exact way trump screws contractors or anyone else he can.
"When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God." Leviticus 19:33-34
Georgia’s secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, has said that Senator Lindsey Graham asked whether it was possible to invalidate legally cast ballots after Donald Trump was narrowly defeated in the state.
In an interview with the Washington Post, Raffensperger said that his fellow Republican, the chairman of the Senate judiciary committee, questioned him about the state’s signature-matching law and asked whether political bias might have played a role in counties where poll workers accepted higher rates of mismatched signatures. According to Raffensperger, Graham then asked whether he had the authority to toss out all mail-in ballots in these counties.
Raffensperger was reportedly “stunned” by the question, in which Graham appeared to suggest that he find a way to throw out legally cast absentee ballots.
“It sure looked like he was wanting to go down that road,” he said.
Graham confirmed the conversation to reporters on Capitol Hill but said it was “ridiculous” to suggest that he pressured Raffensperger to throw out legally cast absentee ballots. According to Graham, he only wanted to learn more about the process for verifying signatures, because what happens in Georgia “affects the whole nation”.
“I thought it was a good conversation,” Graham said on Monday after the interview was published. “I’m surprised to hear he characterized it that way.”
Trump has refused to accept results showing Joe Biden as the winner of the 2020 presidential election, falsely blaming rampant fraud and irregularities that election officials in both parties have dismissed as meritless.
Georgia's secretary of state announces election vote recount – video Georgia, usually a reliably Republican state with 16 electoral votes, is currently conducting a hand recount of roughly 5m presidential ballots, which is expected to be completed by 20 November. Biden led in the state by about 14,000 votes after the initial tally.
This comes as Raffensperger faces mounting backlash from his own party after defending the state’s electoral process. The state’s two Republican senators, David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler, both locked in tight runoff elections to keep their seats, have called for Raffensperger’s resignation – calls that Raffensperger has dismissed.
Congressman Doug Collins of Georgia, who is spearheading the president’s effort to prove fraud in the state, has also been critical of Raffensperger, accusing him of siding with Democrats because he refused to endorse the false claim that the election was stolen from Trump. In the interview, Raffensperger called Collins, who has not contested the result of the special election race he lost to Loeffler, a “liar” and a “charlatan”.
Raffensperger said every accusation of voter fraud would be thoroughly vetted but there was currently no credible evidence that wrongdoing had occurred on a large enough scale to affect the outcome of the election. He also told the Post that the recount would “affirm” the results of the initial count and prove the accuracy of the Dominion voting machines, which Trump has falsely claimed deleted votes cast for him.
Voting rights and ethics groups condemned Graham’s comments, and some called for his resignation as chair of the Senate judiciary committee.
“Not only is it wrong for Senator Graham to apparently contemplate illegal behavior, but his suggestion undermines the integrity of our elections and the faith of the American people in our democracy,” said Noah Bookbinder, the executive director of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, in a statement. “Under the guise of rooting out election fraud, it looks like Graham is suggesting committing it.”
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
I talked to bill gates, and he said he’s giving everybody on DT 20 mill a piece.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Not worth starting another Post Election thread, but worth dropping somewhere.
Watching a re-run of Late Night. Larry Wilmore was guest. Colbert sets up/asks the question:
[Colbert]: "The Trump campaign actually reached out to Black men, and had some success there. It was marginal, but there was some success there- were you surprised that there was some success there, and do you agree that there was some success there?"
[Wilmore]: "Well... I would say that Trump had success with Black men voters in the same way that jumping gets you closer to the sun..."
At least six lawsuits have been filed in Michigan, the latest one landing on Sunday in federal court. But there is no evidence of widespread fraud in the US election.
The issues that Trump’s allies have raised are typical in every election: problems with signatures, secrecy envelopes and postal marks on mail-in ballots, as well as the potential for a small number of ballots to have been miscast or lost.
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The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
From what I’ve seen posted so far here. It’s shown the trump supporters are the fraudulent votes casted and are trying to get legal votes thrown out. And they are the ones being exposed. So please continue.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Nobody is saying our election process is perfect. FAR from it.
Not fraud, though.
Correct. The only fraud, or attempted fraud, proven legitimate and posted here has been by registered republicans. So all this fraud talk before and after the election has backfired on the GOP bigly. Everyday that trump stalls, the GOP only takes another hit. How many times can they loose the election.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
A week later, Texas' Dan Patrick still has his $1 million
Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick (R) no doubt thought it was a good idea to offer financial rewards for evidence of voter fraud. He was mistaken.
Nov. 17, 2020, 10:09 AM EST By Steve Benen
After Election Day had come and gone, Donald Trump and many of his allies did what Republicans often do: they alleged widespread "voter fraud" without any evidence. As the Texas Tribune noted a week ago today, one GOP official went a little further than most.
Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick said Tuesday he is offering up to $1 million to "incentivize, encourage and reward" people for reports of voter fraud in Texas, even as there's been no evidence of mass voter fraud and experts say it's rare.... Patrick said that anyone who provides information that leads to a conviction will receive at least $25,000. The money will come from Patrick's campaign fund, according to spokesperson Sherry Sylvester.
The Texas lieutenant governor probably saw the move as helpful, but he had it backwards: Patrick was effectively arguing that he and his party suspected there was widespread fraud, but they couldn't prove it, so he hoped financial rewards would produce evidence Republicans couldn't find on their own.
Or put another way, Patrick was effectively declaring to the public, "We can't back up our talking points, so I'll pay you to help."
Regardless, a week later, it seemed like a good time to check in and see how the Texas Republican's quest is going.
Patrick hasn't had much to say about this lately, and when Pennsylvania Lt. Gov. John Fetterman (D) tried to collect on the bounty, pointing to suspected fraud from a Trump supporter, the Texan seemed reluctant to take the alert seriously.
Dem leaders plead with McConnell to work on economic aid package If Patrick has enticed anyone into providing him with promising leads, he's kept it to himself.
Writing in the Houston Chronicle yesterday, Cort McMurray lamented, "We're stuck with Dan Patrick and a $1 million bounty for a fraud that never happened."
The Texas Republican no doubt thought this was a good idea at the time. It really wasn't.
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