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So again, I hope all of you who voted for Trump and GOP candidates feel proud that you voted for fascism.

Wish they showed this much effort combating the virus as they’re doing trying to keep their power.

I know I know, that’s too much to ask.

Or that they actually spent as much time and effort in Covid-19 relief as they did by staging a super spreader event to enact a Christian theocracy through the SCOTUS.

Wow - talk about Mass Voter Fraud.

Disgusting. Wish those Republicans with a spine would call this horse crap out.

Well, she did say they were going to 'prove it'. Still waiting on that one.

Lara Trump mulling 2022 Senate run in North Carolina: report

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/52...carolina-report

I remember when conservatives whined about political families and nepotism when it came to Clinton and Bush.

Well....keep that same energy.

This is sooo disgusting

christian theocracy? Ah nevermind not going to waste my breath. SMH

“ And we are going to reclaim the United States of America for the people who vote for freedom."—Sidney Powell”

Cool. I voted for freedom.
Put donny and his clan on the curb like the garbage they are.

Nice to know what you think of me.

Yes GM, a theocracy is when religious beliefs guide government... Now tell me her religion, any religion for that matter, does not have some influence on our government. I despise this. It's bad enough to disagree on political leanings, but dragging antiquated mindsets riddled with religious dogma into the mix is sickening to me. I don't care who or how you worship, but don't push it on me.

Not sure what you think of me if you think that my vote against trump was a vote against freedom. Works both ways. Right?

Here is what you said: "Put donny and his clan on the curb like the garbage they are."

How am I supposed to take that???

I didn’t know you were part of the trump family? That’s what I meant by his clan. He and his family are trash.
I don’t know you well enough to call you that.

The difference is Arch didn’t say anything. You called Donnie’s clan garbage. Now you may not be talking about Trump supporters. However, in the past you have lumped Trump supporters in with your negative comments so if you’re not talking about his supporters that it is easy to make a mistake thinking you were.

Sorry man. For over 4 years people that voted for Trump have been called racist, xenophobes, and much more, and much worse. Trump, on here, has been called names I don't care to repeat - over, and over, and over.

People that voted for him got/get ridiculed......for over 4 years. Sorry, I'm not having any of this "let's make nice" now bull.

I do believe you'll notice I've been fairly quiet since the election, and actually for a few weeks before.

I've watched the dems/libs on here completely and totally make fools of themselves doing exactly what they claim they don't do. Attack anyone that disagrees with them, with a vengeance. I grew tired of it, so I chose to not participate.

And to this day, the attacks on Trump, and those that voted for him, continue. Curiously.

As I've sat back, I see that the bitching is the same, it just depends on who is in office as to who is bitching. It's been enlightening.

Now, you, obsessive compulsive disorder, rocket, pit, swish etc.....you can go on and on........and the attempted points you make point to 1 thing: Hatred of Trump because he beat hillary.

Seriously, the arguments against trump are the exact same as the arguments against any other .

Sad thing is, we'll find out, soon, (if the states certify their votes) that nothing changed.

I know you fancy yourself as some liberated, uber learned person. That's cool. You aren't any better than anyone else, and it would behoove you to learn that.

That cuts both ways. Twitter in Chief is also the name caller in chief.

That is why a change was necessary. All of this berating your political opponent just makes things worse.

I may not be better but I can see a fraud when I see one. trump.
My frustration is not over Hillary losing. She sucked a bag of hammers. It’s that so many of my fellow countrymen fell for this snake oil salesman. And they still stump for him. donny wouldn’t walk two feet to pee on his typical supporter if they were on fire. But they go to bat for him over and over. I’ll never in my life understand it.
All good.
He’ll be dragged into the history books and placed exactly where he should in the ranks of presidents. It won’t be near the top. That I assure you.

I agree. Trump and his name calling of anyone who disagrees with him is pathetic and he got what he deserved. What I see that is different is the vitriol many on the left spew at those like Arch who supported Trump. We have had multiple people in this forum talk about how they mock Republicans, something they do often.

I have friends and family who supported Trump as well as many that hate him. The name calling went pretty much one way.

Back pedal all you want, here is what you said: "Put donny and his clan on the curb like the garbage they are."

here is pdawgs take on it: " However, in the past you have lumped Trump supporters in with your negative comments "

As has every trump hater for the last 4 plus years.

You make a statement like that, the one quoted above, and you ARE talking about me.

Take it how you will I guess. It’s not what I meant.

I’d go so far as to challenge you to find anywhere I ever called you or anyone else who voted for donny a racist, xenophobe, or other such names. (Cult members or sycophants, yes) I challenge you.

(You can waste your time, but I’ll clue you in. It’s NEVER happened. Never. Not by me.)

Fairly certain I never said 'you' specifically. But, if you don't know what I was getting at, well, I'm sorry for you.

Cool. It’s easy to misinterpret the written word.

arch I consider you a good guy. We’ve had a few heated interactions over the years and have had some private conversations to resolve them. We’ll never agree on trump but I’m not going to toss you out with the 40’s of the world. I don’t understand your commitment to trump. I never will. But I won’t let that disagreement define our online ‘relationship’.
You can feel about me how you will. Ultimately life goes on for both of us.
Be well. Mask up. Stay healthy.

Well, thanks for that. I have had several people on here that haven't...........how do I say it? Well, they got pissy,and I got pissy, and now apparently we're not friendly.

It's like I'm somehow supposed to just let them run roughshod over me, but I can't state my thoughts?

Won't name names, but come on, everyone reads the board. I somehow became a pariah because I voted for Trump? And it's been held against me ever since. By people that don't know me. I've been called all the names I mentioned earlier, plus told I was a bad parent, I used my 'dad' status to influence my daughter, (she voted for basement biden, by the way)..........shoot, I've been attacked left and right. And that's fine. I don't really care anymore, as I stated earlier in this thread, or a different one: As I sit back and watch and read, I see the same arguments coming....just from different sides.

I see the libs doing exactly what they cried about the republicans doing. It just goes on and on. And DC loves it. Keep them fighting each other while we eat their lunch and give them crumbs for their lunch, and they'll like it.

I don't like being pissed off. People I know don't like me being pissed off.

Hey arch I would echo Portlands words exactly. And to be fair I would suggest that anyone/everyone you got into an argument in this forum with and who subsequently might have called you any of those names or labels, probably thinks you're a good guy too. Just how I see it.

Don't you let arch guilt trip you into anything. He earned everything he got the last 4 years. About the only thing worse than his politics is his ability to remember events accurately. And his whole schtick is to play victim or stalk you until he sees something you post that he can nitpick at to get under your skin or attempt to make you look bad. He will also report any and every post that he thinks might get you a ban.

Of course he will deny this and probably try to get me banned for posting it, but oh well. You know the funny thing about all of this is I actually liked him too at one point but like he said, that doesn't matter now. The last four years didn't do this... the last 12 years did.

I remember it all but never would have guessed that it would bring us to where we are now. Seriously, I still get surprised by the depths they will go to, the things they believe, and most importantly the things they do almost every damn day. Right now we have a defeated incumbent trying to avoid his miserable life after office by attempting a coup d'état! AND THEY GO ALONG...

These past years, politics has changed people. None of us are who we were in 2008. The Trump era has been especially drastic in changing people. This right wing ideology has driven a wedge in every hairline crack in America. Trump did do a good job of exposing America's weaknesses; everything from personal relationships to international relationships and from opinions to institutions he has twisted, tested, smacked, spit on, stomped on, crapped on, lied about, turned upside down, then cried about it and denied doing anything. But it started along time before him and will be here fore long after he is gone. These years have changed the way the world looks at each other, especially us. It has changed institutions, beliefs, attitudes, and actions at every level from global to the bedroom. Families have been torn apart and for now, it seems like the damage is irreversible.

So, excuse me if I don't care that arch is upset by some words penned by a stranger 1000s of miles away that he only knows from a fan board online. His cyber persona's feelings getting hurt is just an insignificant spec of dust in the universe of crap we have to deal with now. smh

The name calling definitely goes both ways.

In case you forgot, conservatives would even go as far as to imply liberals weren’t even Americans. They talked about us like soldiers do enemies in a war zone. The hate and nastiness they showed us didn’t even come close to how we felt about Muslims while deployed.

I’m tired of people playing victim. Everyone got it as good as they gave it. That’s America, unfortunately.

My two cents..

1. I don’t mock republicans but I’ll seriously mock a trump supporter.
2. Trump supporters .....Un-American

Arch, Not everyone that voted for Trump is racist. But, at the very least, everyone that voted for Trump accepted racism with seemingly no pause.

That's pretty hard to refute.

Actually that's not hard to refute at all. I could easily say if you voted for Biden you're racist against African Americans and accept that behavior from him as a candidate. He has a LONG LONG history of statements so don't even try that race baiting bull around here. I know that's a favorite card...Lastly there is no systematic racism in this country and there are no current citizens living in the US today being effected by slavery.

On to the next topic. Here is the press conference which the media is scared to show people in its entirety.

Definition of theocracy.

a system of government in which priests rule in the name of God or a god.

That sure as hell does not describe the USA.

Here is a second definition from the dictionary

Theocracy, government by divine guidance or by officials who are regarded as divinely guided. In many theocracies, government leaders are members of the clergy, and the state’s legal system is based on religious law. Theocratic rule was typical of early civilizations. The Enlightenment marked the end of theocracy in most Western countries. Contemporary examples of theocracies include Saudi Arabia, Iran, and the Vatican. See also church and state; sacred kingship.

So you see we do not have a Theocracy.

Now since we have not disagreed in a while, nor slapped each other silly lets keep this going



Antiquated my ass. There are Billions of religious folks all over the world, and this country The U.S. government estimates that approximately 70 percent of citizens are members of Christian groups, 6 percent are adherents of the traditional indigenous religion Badimo, and 1 percent belong to other religious groups. Approximately 20 percent espouse no religion.

So stop trying to push your God hating ways on the majority of us. That's sickening to me.

I agree with this, and I have been foot-stomping it, but usually get ignored or outright kill threads when I bring it up, haha.

I have friends and family on both sides, too. While I disagree with people and may think that they have been misguided or can't give up their bias, I believe most people to be well-intentioned. Hell, I admit that I fall into that boat myself.

I think that Trump is the worst of the name callers and I think that he certainly acts like a petulant, spoiled child, and fans the flame of the fire. However, I think my qualm is often seeing people on the left accuse Trump of this poor behavior (which is true), but then go off and do the same thing to his supporters, while acting like they have the undisputed moral high ground. When you call them out for it, you get whataboutism pointed back at Trump.

Pointing out the flaws of others is not justification for our own shortcomings.

It seems like the conversation already went down the rabbit hole, but Portland's original comment (at least to me) appeared to be talking about Clan as in Trump's family, not supporters. I could be wrong though.

This is the same thing (well, one of) that they were whining and wailing about when BK was nominated and confirmed and were proved wrong when he started his job. Amy may or may not be the same way.

I'll start this off by saying that I did not vote for Trump.

However, especially in a bipartisan system, there always has to be acceptance of something bad about your candidate. That being said, racism is obviously beyond bad, but rises to a lynch pin level of ugliness in our current society.

To put the paradigm in a different light, though, say that a voter concurs with you and deems Trump a racist. However, that same person maintains the belief that abortion is the greatest wrong of our society (and I'm not trying to hijack this into a discussion on abortion).

That person is then left with the ugliness of voting for a racist candidate or one who believes in the legality of abortion.

In that tone, for that person, it really becomes a choice where you have to accept something wrong about the candidate.

It’s then the job of that voter to think their decision through. Do you vote for the person that is racist, who’s potentially racist decisions will effect the 30% of the US population that is people of color? Or do you vote against the fractionally small number of those that wish to have a private procedure that’s none of their business?
It seems fairly obvious to me in this scenario which is the greater harm.
But I digress, let’s not make this about abortion.