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Maryland has given Harbaugh the secret on how to not lose to Ohio State.

Just going to state for the record, I don't think MD was going to beat OSU but it might have been closer than a lot of people think.. and I'll go out on a limb right now and say that Taulia is every bit as good if not better than Tua... I say that after my entire 3 game sample where he absolutely sucked in one of them...

I think it would have been a great game... I'm with you that i don't think Maryland would have beaten OSU... but it would have been a great game... was really looking forward to watch this one...

hoping we're ready for Indiana...

The "new" angle getting echoed around started during Indiana game last week. Buckeyes ought to be really concerned about Hoosiers, fear this team, and with much anxiety.

Indy is improved, but I don't see them hanging with us if we take care of business. I also wanted to see us play last weekend.

I don't think Indy is gonna take OSU by surprise. I keep hearing that on tv, but I am pretty sure they are aware of what IU is doing. It has been impressive. I believe they are for real, and I think this will be a great game. I am crossing my fingers it does not somehow get canceled. Big Ten needs this game, and so do both of these teams.

OSU 42 IU 21

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...mits-ohio-state

Quinn ewers just committed to OSU... top prospect for 2022... gives Buckeyes top prospect three years in a row... Go Bucks!

Buckeyes Vs. Indianna are kicking off.

Buckeye Haters, Are SALIVATING!

Because they wish, if ONLY, this one game, if Indiana wins that'll put Ohio State in 3rd place in the Big 10,

Oh Those haters have a GLEAM IN THEIR EYE,
Like the Broadcaster on the left, and the on field lady reporter.

OH What A feeling to Hate!
Haters going to Hate

How was that not a fumble? At least should have been reviewed.

I don't know what happened, I see a fair catch, Buckeyes ball on the 50, turn around to fix something, when I look back it's Indinas ball 2nd and 10 near the 50?
I'm not sure what happened.

Field's first interception of the year.

We’ve gotten jobbed by the refs twice now. Two turnovers that weren’t called properly.

Teague has poor balance. Mixed with only fair vision. He’s an average back at best.

"We've gotten jobbed by the refs twice now."

You are correct.

The media has really been terrible today.

OSU destroying now

Now score to start the 2nd half and let IU warm up the bus ...

I U

Indiana's logo looks so much like a Bucket of Chicken,

KFC ought to be charged an adevertising fee.

The sideline reporter lady, at the start of the 2nd half, had lost some of the smile on her face, (see it in the eyes) that they'd been hoping, I speculate, to see the Buckeyes lose this game.
Haters.

Man, our secondary is getting torched

Don’t love that 4th down call

Fields Heisman stock is plummeting while Penix should move way up.

Ohio State " DC " got schooled by Indiana today !

A very sloppy game by OSU. Too many blown assignments on the defensive side of the ball. The oline and backs missed assignments as well. Fields probably did knock himself out of contention for the Heisman. The only good was the way we ran and played the run.

GM B After that performace don't mention Fields and Heisman in the same sentence again this year.

Half a dozen times Buckeyes had 3rd and 13 and he didn't convert a single one.
Granted they just ran up the gut 4 or 5 of em, but altogether,

Fields looked Bad, (to be nice)
The OSU defense looked Bad (to be nice)
They looked like key stone cops on the touchdown to the crossing route where all the coverage got tangled covering the wrong man.

Buckeyes defense covering the wrong man wasn't a one time thing today!

I don't see every Buckeye game on TV here only being in FREAKING Columbus OHIO their home city,

But of the games I've seen, I don't remember a worse defensive performance except maybe the 41-14 loss to the Gators in the Natl championship 20 some years ago, but

That was at least a championship team, and,
and

In that florida loss, they at least ran better, (even on their 2.7 yd avg that day vs the 300 passing and ton rushing they put up today.

THEY LOOKED BAD, there was a time where Indiana got 3 Td's on three posessions on a couple snaps per drive.

And the Buckeyes got their Offense stopped about 13 times today, if they hadn't been up so much in the 2nd quarter, they wouldn' t have won this one.

They missed a field goal with a rookie kicker last named Seibert.

Earl Bruce was looking on, I think,

4-0 Win out and we are in the CFP and they will learn from this ....

I agree, we needed a game like this as a wake up call.

Fields actually looked human today, first time we've ever seen that.

I don't like Ohio States' (current) case for the BCS if it includes an "eyeball" test.

So much talent and uninspired results.

It just seems like the defense really goes through lapses. When they had to turn it on the last drive they easily squelched Indiana.

Today was also the first day I saw Fields forcing stuff

OSU definitely had some breakdowns today, but I don't want to take away from how well Indiana played. They are the real deal, and that coach did a stupendous job not letting his team throw in the towel when they were way down. I don't remember how many times we were in Penix's face and I thought he was just throwing the ball away to avoid a sack....and it was a bullseye to a receiver.

No eye test needed when your undefeated ...

Yeah, for sure. It kind of sucks Wisconsin is losing and it will be a blow to our SOS not facing them in the big 10 title game. But the bottom line is the committee is going to put us in the top 4 if we don't lose based on our talent alone.

Secondary better learn. They screwed up too often for points today. Our QB really looked lousy at times. He has been bulletproof, but not today.

Glad we won. Obviously. Hats off to Indy for giving us more game than we wanted or expected. Turned it on and shut us down.

What’s up with not challenging that indiana fumble in the first quarter? The replay on TV clearly showed a fumble.

1 Does tosu coaching staff not look at the tv feed, for camera angles, on previous plays?
2 was this play not able to be challenged by the tosu? Did it have to be initiated by the refs! If so, why not call a timeout to give the refs more time to look at the play.

Im not sure I’ve seen a more blatantly missed fumble/possible challenge, whoever is in charge of challenging replays for tosu, should lose their job. I have to assume this play was unable to be challenged,, or I mst be missing something.

OHIO STATE'S PASS DEFENSE IS OFFICIALLY A PROBLEM

By Dan Hope on November 21, 2020 at 8:04 pm

Statistically, Ohio State had one of its worst games ever defending the pass against Indiana.

Hoosiers quarterback Michael Penix Jr. threw for 491 yards against the Buckeyes on Saturday at Ohio Stadium, the most the Buckeyes have allowed in any game in the last 35 years and the fourth-most Ohio State has ever surrendered in a game.

For context: Ohio State’s much-lampooned 2018 defense never allowed more than 378 passing yards in a game, and the Buckeyes hadn’t allowed more than 400 passing yards in any game since their season opener against Indiana in 2017.

MOST PASSING YARDS ALLOWED BY OHIO STATE IN A SINGLE GAME
YEAR OPPONENT YARDS
1980 ILLINOIS 621
1981 PURDUE 526
1985 PURDUE 497
2020 INDIANA 491
2000 PURDUE 455

Despite those struggles defending the pass, Ohio State earned a 42-35 win against Indiana to improve to 4-0 on the season and win its biggest game of the year to date. But the Buckeyes’ inability to prevent big plays in the passing game was the biggest reason why a game they led 35-7 after their opening possession of the second half turned into a game that Indiana still had a chance to win in the final minute of play.

One reason why Indiana’s passing yardage was so high was because the Hoosiers attempted 51 passes, which they had to do because they were trailing and the Buckeyes’ run defense was dominant, holding them to a net loss of 1 yard on 16 rushing plays. But that’s still more than 9.6 yards per passing attempt, which is more than the Hoosiers had in any of their first four games. Most troublingly, the Hoosiers hit big play after big play through the air, including four passing plays of 50-plus yards and 10 passing plays of 15-plus yards.

“If we don’t give up those big plays, we probably run away with this game, but we didn’t,” Day said. “491 yards passing, that’s way too much.”

All five of Indiana’s touchdowns came on passing plays, and all five of the Hoosiers’ touchdown drives including at least one passing play of 25-plus yards. Outside receiver Ty Fryfogle did a lot of the damage, catching seven passes for 218 yards and three touchdowns, and he made several big plays in one-on-one matchups against Shaun Wade and Ohio State’s other cornerbacks. But there were also times where the Buckeyes simply left a player uncovered, like a 51-yard catch by David Ellis and a 16-yard touchdown catch-and-run by Ellis on a 4th-and-10 in the fourth quarter.

Just minutes after the game, Day couldn’t pinpoint exactly what went wrong for the passing defense, saying he’d need to watch the film on Sunday to evaluate that. But he said the Buckeyes need to evaluate everything – personnel, scheme and coaching – to figure out how to fix it.

“Any time you have a problem like that, it’s one of three things,” Day said. “You say to yourself, do you have the right personnel there? So you look at who’s doing it. Then the second thing is, what is the scheme? Does the scheme give our guys the right opportunity to be successful? And then if both of those boxes get checked, then it goes to coaching. Are we coaching it correctly? So I think that’s, when you’re trying to fix something, you have to identify one of these three things that needs to get addressed, or maybe a little bit of each.

“Usually, when you assess something like that, it’s not like, OK, it’s only this. It’s usually a little bit of this, a lot of this, maybe a little bit here or there. And if you tighten up all three of those areas, usually you see improvement.”

Asked about the possibility of making changes to the defensive lineup, Day indicated that he didn’t expect to replace any starters, but said that would also be evaluated during film study.

“At the end of the day, you have to put the best players on the field to make plays,” Day said. “We believe in our guys, we have confidence in our guys, so I’ll be very surprised if we have to make any changes. But maybe we will. We have to watch the film and see, because almost 500 yards of offense in terms of passing is too much, and that’s just not acceptable.”

The passing defense certainly wasn’t the only reason a four-score game became a one-score game, as Ohio State’s offense didn’t score on any of its final six possessions. The Buckeyes have been outscored in the second half in each of their last three games, and that’s on the offense for failing to finish games out strong, too.

“It’s not even just the secondary, it’s the whole defense and the whole offense,” Wade said. “I feel like in the second half, I don’t know what it is, but we have to figure it out. Especially in big games with competition just like we’re playing right now, we can’t be giving up points like that in the second half and not scoring in the second half.”

Giving up big plays through the air has been an issue in all three of those games, though, and the passing defense’s woes against Indiana started before halftime, as the Hoosiers hit two of their 50-plus-yard plays in the second quarter. The passing defense was already Ohio State’s biggest area of concern before Saturday’s game, but it became a glaring liability against the Hoosiers, and one that could ultimately derail the Buckeyes’ title hopes if they can’t get it fixed quickly.

As Wade said, that shouldn’t be pinned solely on the secondary. Ohio State’s pass-rush was also mediocre on Saturday, recording just two sacks, though it did step up on Indiana’s final two possessions to prevent a potential game-tying or game-winning score. Linebackers like Baron Browning, Teradja Mitchell and Pete Werner got beat in coverage, too. And Wade made a crucial play that the Buckeyes needed to win the game by intercepting a Penix pass and returning it for a 36-yard touchdown.

But if Ohio State’s going to achieve its goals for this season, it can’t continue to give up big plays in the passing game as repeatedly as it did on Saturday. If and how much the Buckeyes can improve in that area could ultimately make or break the Buckeyes’ chances of winning a championship this year.

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-stat...ially-a-problem

The secondary was alarming yesterday (and has been) ... big plays are a huge concern

GC. History of the Ohio State vs Illinois matchups, I'm talking about years 1990-2002 ish, lead me to believe Ill. would have little respect for the Buckeyes, especially at home,

and without even looking at the ilini team, lead me to believe the Buckeyes could run into a Buzz Saw and a loss, (unless they play better than they have been);

when they play.

j/c...

lol dream on ... Go Bucks

Nothing about Ohio State this year looks like a top 4 CFP team to me;
Except for,
The Band
and Recruiting,
and a couple of the assistant coaches.

I don't think they can stay undefeated
if they continue with..
Less than perfect organization
Less than perfecet inspiration
Less than perfect coordination. That's being nice.