I'm not sure how easily you can do it with the fixed front sight, but setting up your scope to co-witness your sights is a pretty good system to have. If your red dot battery fails, you can still use your magnification and just put the front post on the target.
The glass I got for mine is two pieces, both made by Vortex. The main sight is an unmagnified red dot: the Vortex Strikefire II. Fairly compact and affordable. Sitting between that and my eye is the Vortex VMX-3T - it is a flip-out 3x magnifier.
With it flipped open to the side, I have no magnification, but really long eye relief on my red dot... perfect for closer targets. If I need to push out farther, I can just roll the 3x into place and I'm good to see clearly out to about 200 yards. Since my rifle is zeroed at 50 yards, the furthest I'm really going is about 300 yards, anyway, so it works well. For iron sights, I put on a set of flip-down/foldable iron sights. If you wanted to go that route, you'd only need to change out the hand guard on the front end of your rifle, which would also remove the fixed front sight. Then, you just put on a new hand guard that has a flat rail down the full length.
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As I told someone else in a pm, guns are great. IF you're familiar with them. And IF you know how to shoot them. Otherwise, they're just that, guns.
The pm was about a specific gun I own, but haven't shot in a while. As I was relating my experience with the gun, I mentally went through the break down of that gun - as in how to break it down for cleaning. I could do it from memory. I............well............having guns doesn't mean much if you don't know them, and how to shoot them.
Go to the range, especially with the hand guns. Learn them.
Y'all be geeks about guns like I'm a geek about stereo gear... or vintage string instruments that now cost more than a third-world country's entire GDP.
I recently picked-up my new handgun. I got the Beretta 92-FS Compact. I wanted the full-sized one, but they just haven't become available. The Compact is larger and heavier than most compacts and feels real good in my hand. My wife is able to easily handle it.
Here is my question. I am right handed, but not right-eye dominant. My left eye is not exactly dominant, but a bit better than my right eye. It sounds funny, but it's called cross eyed dominant. I have been reading about it and watching videos. The one that made the most sense to me was where you look through the two rear sites and then the target while trying not to rely on the front site. Here is the video:
I'm missing my right trigger finger due to a childhood accident and I'm right eye dominant. I find it easiest and quickest to get the front sight on target and raise the rear of the weapon until the front sight is in the notch of the rear sight. The target is always blurry if you're doing it right.
I have the front sights and two dots on the rear sight of my handguns painted with Hi-Vis paint. When the 3 dots are aligned you're in business. If the main purpose of your handgun is home protection, you're fighting the effects of adrenalin should you happen to need it. Larger, easier to get on target sights are the way to go. Also, these aren't the weapons for a light trigger pull. You're going to sacrifice a little accuracy at the range, and if target shooting is important to you, use a different weapon for that.
And into the forest I go, to lose my mind and find my soul. - John Muir
I have the gun for home defense. I was just piggybacking off of what arch and Eve were saying about going to the range and becoming comfortable w/the gun. I am not interested in showing off at the range...LOL
Quite a few ornaments:' Ohio gun policy overhaul would expand concealed carry, stand your ground Jessie Balmert Cincinnati Enquirer
Changes to an Ohio gun bill would expand access to firearms dramatically.
COLUMBUS – A proposed major overhaul to Ohio gun laws would allow concealed guns in more places, 18-year-olds to buy firearms and people to "stand their ground" when firing in self-defense.
Dozens of changes could soon be added to House Bill 248. A 33-page analysis of those amendments, obtained by The Enquirer, reveals dozens of ways lawmakers hope to expand access to guns in Ohio.
"The combination of all of these things is really frightening because it’s almost an obsession with the access to guns," said Toby Hoover, founder of the Ohio Coalition Against Gun Violence.
The proposals stand in stark contrast to Republican Gov. Mike DeWine's pleas to address gun violence. DeWine has repeatedly asked lawmakers to increase penalties for people who provide guns to others prohibited from having them.
Instead, changes to House Bill 248 would make it more difficult to prosecute someone who sells, lends or gives a firearm to someone who is intoxicated or banned from having a gun. The seller would have to "knowingly" provide the gun rather than "recklessly," the requirement under current law.
Another hotly contested concept – stand your ground – makes an appearance in proposed changes. With an amendment, the bill would eliminate a duty to retreat before firing in self-defense while at a business.
Current law only allows Ohioans to "stand their ground" at their residences or vehicles. GOP lawmakers, in another bill, recently proposed eliminating a duty to retreat before firing during a riot.
The amendments would allow concealed guns in more places, including colleges and universities, places of worship and state property. Other locations that currently ban concealed guns, such as police stations and airport terminals, could allow them if the governing bodies of those locations approve the change.
If the amendments become law, business owners who post signs banning guns on their property could be sued for anyone injured or killed there.
The Ohio Chamber of Commerce would push back against a proposal to infringe upon business owners' ability to control their own workforces, said Kevin Shimp, director of labor and legal affairs.
"Employers should be free to make the decision that works best for them," Shimp said.
Another change would allow Ohioans to have their guns while drinking in bars again. The proposed changes would only ban someone from having a gun in a bar if the person was under the influence of alcohol or drugs.
If approved, House Bill 248 would balloon from its original purpose: allowing people banned from having guns to possess antique firearms. Buckeye Firearms Association supported the initial bill but could not be reached for comment on the proposed amendments.
Other changes include:
Reduce the minimum age to obtain a concealed weapons license from 21 years old to 18 years old. Those with a license could purchase guns at 18 years old.
Eliminate the requirement that concealed weapons licensees carry their license with them. Any valid identification could be used instead.
Eliminate a requirement that concealed handgun license holders "promptly" inform police that they have a gun. Licensees would still need to inform police if they have a gun in the vehicle.
Prohibit schools and universities from penalizing employees or students who carry a concealed weapon legally.
Specify that state and federal lawmakers can regulate guns – not city and other local officials.
Require police to auction unclaimed or forfeited firearms rather than destroy them.
Would allow the manufacture, sale and possession of brass knuckles, cestus, billy, blackjack, sandbag, switchblade knife, springblade knife, gravity knife or similar weapon.
The bill was slated for a hearing in House Federalism Committee Wednesday, but it was canceled Tuesday. Chairman John Becker, R-Union Township in Clermont County described the proposed legislation as a "Christmas tree bill" for public safety.
"There's actually quite a few ornaments hanging on this tree," said Becker, who hopes to pass the bill out of committee after Thanksgiving.
Hoover said this overhaul of Ohio gun laws should be subject to public's scrutiny. But she's come to expect quickly passed proposals in the final months of the legislative session from Ohio's GOP-controlled Legislature.
"This one is everything they wanted for Christmas, I guess," she said.
Despite being a "gun nut" as some would characterize, I find most of this being either poor practice, poor execution, or in poor taste.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
The past licensed pistol for the military and fame of 80's action movies like Die Hard and the Lethal Weapon series. I shot one myself a couple months ago and ever since then I wanted one. Personally I think its one of the most beautiful guns ever made.
These are hard to find but I ended up ordering online through Kentucky Gun Co and its being shipped from the warehouse. Should come in maybe in a couple days, so excited!!! I selected pick of in KY to have a nice relaxing drive down there for fun. The place itself looks incredible.
Too bad these handguns can’t protect y’all from COVID.
Oh well.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
I've been a Deputy for around twenty five years now. I've carried a gun enough to have some might strong opinions on the matter.
Firstly, try and buy ammo right now. Good luck with that. I had to scrounge just to take a course a couple weeks back. The supply will dictate what kind of handgun you buy.
Secondly, Beretta is some good stuff. I've never used one on duty but have spent time with them. They're heavy but built to last.
Lastly. Nothing can top a Smith and Wesson revolver for most homeowners self defense. That's what I'd suggest. If you can't solve the problem in six shots you're probably in way deeper than you need to be.
I really think you're in good shape with a shotgun on hand. Given the craziness in the market right now I wouldn't worry about adding a pistol at this point.
"Let people think this is a dumpster fire," - Mike Pettine
Hmmm.....figured I'd put this in Verse's handgun thread.....good thread to revive as well....new purchases, etc.
Smith & Wesson’s stock jumps as record gun demand fuels latest earnings surprise Published: Dec. 4, 2020 at 3:10 p.m. ET By Tomi Kilgore
Shares of Smith & Wesson Brands Inc. rallied Friday, after the gun maker reported another big profit beat and sales that more than doubled, as demand for firearms continued to surge to record levels.
The 168-year-old handgun and rifle maker reported late Thursday net income that jumped to $52.2 million, or 92 cents a share, from $1.3 million, or 2 cents a share, in the year-ago period.
‘The research indicated that for those people who own firearms, the average number of firearms possessed was eight.’— Mark Smith, Smith & Wesson.
Sales soared 118.7% to $248.7 million, above the FactSet consensus of $223 million.
The stock SWBI, +5.16% ran up 3.4% in active afternoon trading. Volume topped 3.2 million shares, more than the full-day average of 2.5 million shares. The stock has more than doubled (up 119.6%) in 2020, while the S&P 500 index SPX, +0.88% has gained 14.3%.
In a post-earnings conference call with analysts, Chief Executive Mark Smith said the “second consecutive record-breaking quarter” came as federal background checks, which he said are considered the best available proxy for consumer firearm demand, were 57.5% above levels seen in the same period a year ago.
For the first 11 months of 2020, there have been 19.2 million background checks for gun purchases, the most for an 11-month period since the Federal Bureau of Investigation started recording data in 1998, Smith said.
And based on firearm industry estimates provided by the National Shooting Sports Foundation, or NSSF, Smith & Wesson estimates that nearly 8 million Americans were first-time gun buyers.
That bodes very well for the company, given what it could mean about demand for guns over the longer term.
“In October, we conducted an attitude and usage study of over 1,200 law-abiding firearm owners with the goal of gaining a better understanding of today’s firearm consumer,” Smith said on the analyst call, according to a FactSet transcript. “The research indicated that for those people who own firearms, the average number of firearms possessed was eight.”
And NSSF research indicated that about one in four new gun owners went on to buy additional firearms at higher prices than their first purchase.
“Therefore, this expanded consumer base of new firearm owners represents a healthy long-term opportunity for the industry as a whole, but specifically for Smith & Wesson,” Smith said.
Analyst James Hardiman at Wedbush raised his stock price target to $18 from $17 after the results but reiterated the neutral rating he’s had on the company since March 2019. He said there is some concern that the results could be tempered going forward as supply is “very depleted” and could remain an issue in the coming quarters.
“Demand remains very strong, but Black Friday and the holiday shopping season have been held back this year due to a lack of inventory for the industry,” Hardiman wrote in a note to clients.
I bought a new S&W hand gun just last month. They also had plenty of ammo in stock. The ammo was a little pricey but not too bad. I'm really not sure why I even bought the gun. I mean, it's not like i need it. Just another one for the collection I suppose.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Prices on ammo is still up there pretty high, but I was noticing today that it's much more readily available. SGAmmo.com has a bunch of 9mm, even if it is 70 cents a round.
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... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
Even the Winchester white box fmj stuff? Crap, I'm used to the 100 round boxes going for between 15 and 20 dollars. Glad I have a nice stockpile.
Unless you wish to have a coronary, I would not go looking for 9mm ammo if you are hoping for 20 cents/rd. You will be lucky to find FMJ for under 60 cents/rd.
For all of you that have spoken about the 92fs (great gun), I would immediately go to Beretta's website and order the conversion kit that turns your FS into a G. $30 upgrade and totally worth the price.
Even the Winchester white box fmj stuff? Crap, I'm used to the 100 round boxes going for between 15 and 20 dollars. Glad I have a nice stockpile.
That was Remington 124gr FMJ.. a 500 round case at $0.68/round. That is the CHEAPEST 9mm price per round they have... and they typically have all the best deals going (or close to it).
a 50 round box of Remington 147gr HP is a whopping $1.20 per round.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
For all of you that have spoken about the 92fs (great gun), I would immediately go to Beretta's website and order the conversion kit that turns your FS into a G. $30 upgrade and totally worth the price.
A month or so ago I bought a couple boxes of .556 at almost $1/round. Had VERY mixed feelings when I clicked the purchase button.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
For all of you that have spoken about the 92fs (great gun), I would immediately go to Beretta's website and order the conversion kit that turns your FS into a G. $30 upgrade and totally worth the price.
Wait, what is this? Can you elaborate please?
The safety mechanism on the FS serves as a true mechanical safety as well as a decocker. However, the positioning of the safety lever is difficult to reach for most people, and the upward sweep needed to disengage the safety is somewhat counter intuitive. The conversion kit will change the safety into a decocker only. At this point you are relying on the long DA pull to be the last line of defense from a negligent discharge. I was leary of making the switch, but after using the same setup on my PX4 Storm, I found that I really like the setup and thus changed my 92FS to a 92G
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