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IMO, Bill Callahan deserves some credit for his ability to "teach" Willis, helping him to make the transition from RT to LT.




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Just an incredible success in a tougher-than-normal year. I agree, mac. Coach gets a dose of praise because this group is clicking depending on the mix. Willis is figuring it out, and Callahan is right there as well.

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So happy for the young man. What an honor!

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Originally Posted By: GratefulDawg


Awesome, our line is looking like it might be the best we've seen in quite a while, and that's saying something cuz at one point we had Thomas, Bitonio, Mack and Schwartz

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Originally Posted By: mac



IMO, Bill Callahan deserves some credit for his ability to "teach" Willis, helping him to make the transition from RT to LT.


I think his ability to coach Wills should be noted as well.

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Originally Posted By: GratefulDawg
that reminds me of the matrix


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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that reminds me of the matrix


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Except Hunt.


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Originally Posted By: GratefulDawg
Which is the more impressive image, Hunt's leap, or Teller blocking 3 at once to clear the path?


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Teller looks like an image of Hercules.


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Teller must be on major steroids.

2020 Teller not even close to 2019 Teller.

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Originally Posted By: SuperBrown
Teller must be on major steroids.

2020 Teller not even close to 2019 Teller.
He explains it as 2019 he was a backup training at multiple positions on a new team and system. 2020 he was the incumbent RG. He trained and prepared for 1 position knowing the tendencies of LG & C, and a really good OL coach.

That doesn't mean you're wrong


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It looks like Hunt's right leg is amputated at the knee. D:


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Originally Posted By: W84NxtYrAgain
Originally Posted By: GratefulDawg
Which is the more impressive image, Hunt's leap, or Teller blocking 3 at once to clear the path?


was thinking the same thing... forget the jump... look at the block!


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Originally Posted By: GratefulDawg


Turning out to be a great pick and worthy of a top 10 selection thumbsup


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And he has upside yet, I believe. It is rough looking, but he is really outperforming what I expected and over-achieving. I am delighted! thumbsup

Kudos to him AND to his coaches.


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Turning out to be a great pick and worthy of a top 10 selection thumbsup


*It's always a risk* BUT with Bill Callahan on board, with Joe Thomas giving his recommendation before the draft ... with PFF grades ... I was very comfortable with the pick. Happy we didn't get Andrew Thomas who I had thought was the #1 and who has since struggled, and even though I know Becton has played well, I just think his size has to carry long term injury risk.


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Great pick by Berry!

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You love to see it


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Hard for me to get stoked about him after years of being spoiled by Joe T. But you have to give the kid props, you barely hear his name on Sundays or linked to any negative talk about the line. We may have a few Pro Bowlers on this line this year.


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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
Hard for me to get stoked about him after years of being spoiled by Joe T. But you have to give the kid props, you barely hear his name on Sundays or linked to any negative talk about the line. We may have a few Pro Bowlers on this line this year.

MAN ! Give the dude a break !! Rookie vs recent gold standard for Left Tackles and a pro-bowler!! Ouch. Harsh man, so harsh!!


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"The Union"

Joel Bitonio



Jedrick Wills Jr.



Wyatt Teller



J.C. Tretter



Jack Conklin


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I write this post with much hesitation.

At the end of the day, I love our line. They are the cornerstone of our offense, as a unit (as well as many individuals) are best in the league. Wills is overachieving as well as still being mostly potential, Teller is our diamond in the rough, Tretter and Bitonio being our vets, and Conklin our mercenary. Also included is a healthy dose of Hubbard as a 6th lineman, when called (he's very underrated in this role).

But we're not going to get much out of this thread if it's only praise, so here is my criticism and I'd love to hear what people think.

How come, for as great of an Oline as we have, do we seem to struggle as much as we do pounding the ball in in short yardage situations? Are we more of a finesse line and lack the power in those situations?


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I don't know the answer, but we do seem to get manhandled by larger DLine fairly easily.

The games we've lost, we lost at the LoS.


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I agree.

I think one of the problems to compound that is that we go up against a fairly aggressive or stout DL, combined with the fact that teams are stacking the box against us.

That's an area where Mayfield needs to step up and keep the D honest. He didn't do so against the Ravens and the Steelers. His receiving corp let him down against the Raiders. At some point, he will need to be able to pull off a passing attack against a good team's aggressive defense if he wants to be part of the upper echelon of QBs in the league.

On the other hand, our interior DL was manhandled by the Raiders. Worried that they will experience that same struggle against the Titans, who also have a RB who is far more talented.

There won't be the opportunity to cover up mishaps against the Titans like there were against the Eagles or the Jags. Worried about this game.


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That’s why I think the Tennessee game comes down to which QB can make more plays. We’re pretty similar teams to be honest


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Cleveland Browns’ Who Made PFF’s All-Pro Team Thus Far




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The season is three fourths of the way through in 2020. There is a good idea of who has playoff aspirations and who the best players have been this season. Pro Football Focus put out a list of players who would be all-pro if the season ended now. PFF put out two teams that included four members of the Cleveland Browns.

First Team

Joel Bitonio is PFF’s first team left guard, with Ali Marpet coming right behind him. A lot of times if you don’t hear about an offensive line during the game, it’s because he is doing work. Many times you will hear their name when they give up a sack or just flat out aren’t playing well. Bitonio is playing some of his best football and has been consistent at that. With a PFF grade over 84, Bitonio is actually at his best mark in his career according to Pro Football Focus. Sighted for his improved run blocking game, Bitonio is the first of multiple linemen on this list.

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Jack Conklin was the prized offseason signing for the Cleveland Browns. Leaving the Tennessee Titans, who he will play this week has done him some good. Conklin has allowed just one sack this season. Working with an 82 grade on PFF, Conklin is playing his best football at a very important time for the Browns. Conklin has battled some injury, still having his best season to date according to PFF’s data. Another part of potentially the league’s best unit in the trenches.

Second Team

Wyatt Teller is blooming right in front of their eyes. Teller has always had the talent, he’s just had to put it together. Their may not be a better pulling guard in the league, Teller still has work to do in the pass game. Teller has the best grade for a right guard at 93.9. Zack Martin is ahead of him, but that won’t last with the time that Martin is going to miss. In fact, according to PFF - Martin was only ahead to due to the games that Teller missed. Teller has helped transform the Browns offensive line and will be due for a payday before long. May very well end up all-pro.

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Myles Garrett has 10 sacks on the season and hasn’t played in the last two games, still remains tied for the most in the league. Garrett will end the season with at least 15 sacks if he can remain on the field, which he will be back against the Titans this week. An 86.6 grade has Garrett as a second team member behind Khalil Mack and his 91.6 grade. Mack has three less sacks and two less forced fumbles. Garrett will undoubtedly be all-pro as long as he finishes the season strong, every sign points to him doing just that. If it was not for the games that Garrett missed due to Covid-19, he may have been the front runner for DPOY. He still has to be in that talk for how much he has changed games, by himself.

Cleveland will likely have a couple players all-pro at the end of the year and as it shows, it will come in the trenches. Cleveland is very good in the trenches on both sides when healthy, the last few games will give them a chance to show just how good they are.


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This should have been a penalty, but love the attitude.



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Didn't see that during the game. I like it!


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It looks like the defender was playing it up for a flag. Looks like the dude left his feet on his own.


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I think it was okay. The dude tripped over the marker.


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Nice!!

I can honestly say I've never noticed Njoku actually blocking before. I need to watch him closer, now.

If he's doing this and can get his hands more consistent, then he'll have become what his potential always said he could.


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Nice!!

I can honestly say I've never noticed Njoku actually blocking before. I need to watch him closer, now.

If he's doing this and can get his hands more consistent, then he'll have become what his potential always said he could.


Sometimes he lays effective blocks, sometimes not so much. An improvement.


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It's a shame Joe Thomas missed out on being part of that.


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Kudos to Bill Callahan - a great get.

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