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Browns lose yet another, OT Butler

NFL.com wire reports



BEREA, Ohio (Dec. 20, 2006) -- The Cleveland Browns can't seem to go one day without losing a player to injury or visiting the operating room.

The club placed tackle Kelly Butler on injured reserve with a broken foot, another blow to their banged-up offensive line and yet another medical setback for a team that has battled injuries for several years.

Butler, who made five starts after Ryan Tucker was lost for the season with an undisclosed mental disorder, was scheduled to undergo surgery.

Butler is the 12th player -- and 10th starter -- to go on injured reserve this season. On Dec. 19, running back Jason Wright was placed on IR.

Since the start of training camp, the Browns have also lost cornerback Gary Baxter (knees), center LeCharles Bentley (knee), linebacker D'Qwell Jackson (toe), defensive tackle Ethan Kelley (knee), cornerback Daylon McCutcheon (knee), DT Orpheus Roye (knee), safety Brian Russell (elbow), Wright and Tucker.

With linebacker Andra Davis still battling symptoms from a concussion sustained in last week's loss at Baltimore, the Browns signed Nick Speegle to the active roster and added offensive lineman Pete Lougheed to its practice squad.

Browns coach Romeo Crennel also announced that quarterback Derek Anderson will start against Tampa Bay. Anderson will make his third start since Charlie Frye bruised his right wrist in Cleveland's Dec. 3 win over Kansas City.

Meanwhile, Russell spoke to the media for the first time since being hospitalized for nine days with a staph infection in his right elbow -- the second time he has been sidelined by the bacteria since the start of training camp. Russell is still taking antibiotics intravenously. He is the fourth Browns player to be infected with staph in the past two years.

The club's player representative, Russell said the players will see if further precautions can be made to protect them from getting sick.

"That's something that will be discussed in-house," Russell said. "We'll talk as a team and if guys feel or have concerns, then at that point as a representative I'll bring those to the powers that be."





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Please god.... Please give me a Joe Thomas for Christmas!!

Butler sucks..

Butler sucks..

Butler sucks..

He better not be a Brown next season..

Well we have a lot of problems on the Oline.. a lot of these guys are not good regardless of knowing the system..

Yet many folks:
a. wanted the Browns to draft him
b. were upset that we didn't
c. used us not drafting him to cite that we weren't addressing the OLine

Ditto for Nat Dorsey.

Then, when we actually get those guys, folks do nothing but bash them and say we have nothing but scrubs because we're not addressing the oline in the draft.




Not really making commentary here, just tossing out an observation that struck me as odd.... but it does make me glad I'm not Opie (except on pay day that is <img src="/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />)

[color:"red"] Then, when we actually get those guys, folks do nothing but bash them and say we have nothing but scrubs because we're not addressing the oline in the draft.
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I say they're scrubs because they actually are <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
The fact is the Browns haven't drafted a top linemen high in the draft save for 2 centers..Phil drafted a OG in the fourth round.. a leap up from the usual 6th -7th rds that have come in.
Butler was not a OT that I had looked at , so I had no real feeling about him..Dorsey I had seen somewhat but his skill set projected him to be a high draft pick..Vers said he was lazy...others said he was young and didn't have a serious attitude..
I keep saying he fits on the right side..I haven't seen him play bad there..he seems overwhelmed playing LT...

[color:"white"]Wow.....What a loss <img src="/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> *L*

Let's not take this article too seriously. It says we lost another "starter" for the year LMAO!

Honestly, we've been damned healthy this year. Winslow and Edwards have held up despite major knee injuries the previous year, and most of the other units have remained intact. Sure, we had issues at CB, but compared to the rest of the league, we aren't suffering any more than the rest. [/color]

That's true--it just feels that way because our OL seems to be so banged up, and at the same time playing so inconsistently. Hand-in-hand ?? I don't really care, at this point I just want to see if drafting an OLman high would work for us since we haven't done so since Dick Schafrath (tounge-in-cheek).

[color:"white"]Nah, the line had been intact for the vast majority of the year, but played like crap because that's the level of their talent. The line gave up 5 sacks against the Rats, a number that's simply unnaceptable, and the only reason they looked half-way decent against the Steelers was because in those kinds of conditions, the O-line always has a HUGE advantage. Outside of that, they haven't gotten any push in the run game all year.

The line sucks because of the talent level. It has very, very little to do with cohesiveness. We could bring all 5 guys back next year and start the first 14 games, and they'd still suck in the 15th and 16th games.

I'm with you, in that it's time to invest in some real linemen, not just stopgap players. Both our guards are backups, our starting right tackle is an injury-proned player who now has even more serious demons to deal with than physical problems, and our left tackle is playing out of position. It's a bad situation that can only be remedied immediately with high draft picks and high-dollar free agent signings. [/color]

Kelly Butler was done before he started. <img src="/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

Who? <img src="/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> Thats all.

Well, means we will get a glimpse of how bad Nat Dorsey really is...

Butler DOES suck and isn't worthy to carry Tuck's Jock however, the silver lining is that our depleted O-Line got national pub that solidifies everything us fans have been saying...

Besides, the more we get to see of our pineriders, the better gametime evaluations the Coaching Staff will have so they can cut the dead weight... Chances are, either Butler or Dorsey will be canned after the season... Gametime evals as mentioned earlier are the truest indicator...

personally i think that butler is a pretty good backup. Not a starter, but he did average when he did start...which is about all you can hope for from a backup.

Butler was about as average as a 100 pound 12 year old trying to block pro players <img src="/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> He makes Coleman, and Druzzi look like all pro's

That's junk. I'm not going to come on here and say that Kelly Butler is our next starting right tackle. He got flat out ABUSED in the Rats game. However, I though he looked pretty good in both the KC and the Pitt game.

He's a big strong guy, who holds the line well but will get beat up by any type of speed rush, which the Ravens have in abundance. Plus he's matched up against Trevor Pryce, who last time I checked, was a pretty damn good D-Lineman.

Saying that he makes Druzzi look like an All-Pro is preposterous. He's no all-pro but as depth, or relief, he's not a bad O Lineman. He just shouldn;t be starting....

But really, who on our line should be?

Right now, probably just Hank, but that's only because we have no LCB.

Although that was kind of a hypothetical, yes you're right. Fraley stands out as a bonafide starter.

Shaffer to me is borderline. He's not as bad as many here make him out to be but he's definitely not as good as his contract makes him out to be.

Our guards are quite possibly the worst starting tandem in football. I honestly believe that Lennie Friedman is a better player than Andruzzi right now. I like the Andruzzi signing 2 years ago but he's not the same player.

Butler got beat twice as often as Druzzi and Coleman, even with help from tight ends, and running backs.

In the Ravens game, yes... He was beaten. He had a horrible game and looked like a punk.

In the prior two, he looked passable.

Andruzzi hasn't played well all year

I respectfully disagree hee Toad...

we may be AVG in regards to IR (before those last 2 weeks though)...but if you go and look up every gameday, we missed 4-6,7,8 starters every week....2 CBs on IR (nickel-CB is playing in over 50% and is a "starter" in my book) and Bentley...then we had several starters missing weeks here and there....and have never been healthy the entire year (JJ, Tucker, Droughns, Druzzi, Russell, McGinest, Roye), all of those missed at least 2-4,5 games here and there....add in that our biggest playmakers come back from severe knee injuries and we have the toughest schedule to date...and well, you have a 4-10 season

He sure did, all the lineman and linebackers passed right by him on their way to the backfield <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
and yes Druzzi has looked bad all year long <img src="/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

only linemen i pimp are those given 1st rounders.. and those that i've seen play in the SEC.. particulary Bulldogs... (ie Max Jean Gilles, Daniel Inman)..

never pimped Butler..

J/C, between Friedman, Butler, and Coleman I think 2 of those 3 will be gone from our team, as they should be. They're worthless linemen. You can keep 1 for depth. Nat Dorsey also may be gone. Druzzi and Tucker need replaced and they need replaced by talented O Linemen, not the garbage we've been bringing in for the past 7-8 years. Hank is the most deserving O Lineman of a contract and resignging him would be a great thing. That would give us the option to play Bentley at G or C if he can return next season. Other than that we need to draft high round OL and find TALENTED OL in FA.

I think as far as the draft.. the Browns will do the same thing they did in last years draft... draft 3 guys to fill a need... Rounds 1,2, & 4 were used for LB's...

this year may be the same... if Adrian Peterson is there.. then we take him and go o-line in the next round, and two other rounds... or we could take 3 Defensive Linemen to stock up there and complete our defensive needs besides CB...

Last year's draft was extremely deep at LB - pushing better talent into later rounds - fit one of our major needs to a "t".

Depending on what happens w/ underclassmen, this years draft is pretty much sucking at LB depth wise, but is looking strong at both DL and OL in the 2nd and 3rd rounds (lets not talk about WR <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> ). Not a ton of top flight talent, but quite a bit of second tier guys fighting it out. DL is a bit tougher to figure out since most college players have to be projected into our 3-4 defense - so someone perfect for us could easily be sitting there in the 2nd round if he doesn't fit the traditional 4-3 DL mold.

Its almost like we were able to put in "an order" for what we need again. We might end up taking a skill guy in the 1st depending on who's there, but its shaping up to be a draft to make the trench-guys do a lot of smiling.

All we have to do is pick 'em. <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Last year's draft was extremely deep at LB - pushing better talent into later rounds - fit one of our major needs to a "t".

If there was better talent in the latter rounds,why then,did we use our top two picks on LB's?
This talent that got pushed,only netted us a 4th rounder.The '05 draft,which wasn't loaded with LB's,we took 3 lb's in the latter rounds.That seems ass-backwards to me.

[color:"orange"]Saw a clip date 12/20 in our lockeroom. Dorsey was stoked to be starting - he got real excited. I thought Dorsey has played RT much better in the past than Butler did. Also we have to keep in mind Butler did play with a broken foot against the Ravens. We don't know when it happened. We knew he came out and went back in.

Definately Dorsey n Butler's time is running out. They should both "get it". These last two games can be Dorsey's last audition. Lets see what he's got - in the past he has not been bad at RT.

JMHO

Dorsey is going to look better than most people think over the next two games.

I thought Dorsey played RT better also..but it looks like Phil wanted him to groom for LT..but the guys skill set indicates RT..if he plays well they ought to just plant him there and worry about getting a backup LT..it's much easier.

if the light comes on and he finally puts forth the effort, i'll gladly revoke my 'FAT dorsey' nickname

At just about 4000 psi, yes he does. We gotta get a better offensive line coach, better scheme, and outlaw this type. I am amazed that he was allowed into Berea, much less than into our uniform, and even moreso onto the field. I will hold, miss blocks, and stand watching plays end for half his pay.
YO! Browns gonna get one of the final two. We been playing for a draft pick and I didn't know it! <img src="/images/graemlins/naughtydevil.gif" alt="" />