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They shouted obscenities and threatened violence in an effort to overturn the state's presidential election results, she said in a statement.

Dozens of armed people gathered outside Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson's home over the weekend "shouting obscenities" and threatening violence in an effort to overturn the presidential election results in the state, she said Sunday.

Benson and her 4-year-old son had just finished decorating their home for Christmas and were about to watch "How the Grinch Stole Christmas" when the group arrived, she said in a statement.

"The demands made outside my home were unambiguous, loud and threatening," she said. "They targeted me in my role as Michigan's Chief Election Officer.

"Through threats of violence, intimidation and bullying, the armed people outside my home and their political allies seek to undermine and silence the will and voices of every voter in this state, no matter who they voted for," she said.

Gabriel Sterling, a top Republican elections official in Georgia, said last week that President Donald Trump's repeated false claims that the election was stolen from him had led to death threats, intimidation and harassment.

Saying the claims have to stop, Sterling called on Trump to "step up" and condemn the threats. But Trump returned to Georgia on Saturday and repeated the baseless assertions.

Michigan's State Board of Canvassers certified the election results for President-elect Joe Biden on Nov. 23. An NBC News projection showed that he defeated Trump by more than 150,000 votes.

Trump and his allies made baseless allegations about irregularities and discrepancies in Detroit's vote tallies and called on the Legislature to name Trump electors, despite Biden's victory.

Trump and other Republicans have also filed nine lawsuits in Michigan, alleging fraud and other irregularities. As of last week, most of the suits had been withdrawn or denied. In one case, a judge described the allegations as "inadmissible hearsay within hearsay."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-el...r-home-n1250178

I believe the cult followers will get worse before they get better. It's a sad time for America and democracy as we once knew it.

I'd like to see those guns jammed up their asses.

Now look who’s protesting. And protesting armed isn’t exactly peaceful is it?

Did anybody get shot or did anything get burnt down? Just wondering?

That point will fly over the head of many on here.

They heard...they don't have ANY room to complain about anything.

After 4 years of their BS, anything goes these days.

Exactly’Peen!

Thank God I live in Ohio and not NY, Mich, Cali, or any other blue wannabe socialist state. I don’t blame those Patriots for taking up arms against the tyrannical government they have in Michigan. It’ll be nice to see Whitmer (and Cuomo, and Newsom) removed or voted out of office in the near future (whichever comes first).

Patriots !!!

Mass gatherings of protesters who are armed is always such fun... such a Christian thing to do. yay. BLM should take note.

I consider those losers who rioted and looted to be not worthy of living in our country. I suppose you’d like to laugh at that too! Hahaha. - I laughed when 1,000s of those looters got tear gassed and arrested Hahaha!

But you won’t ever see that, because unlike blm, antifa (and all those other losers) the people of topic in this thread protested legally and respected the property of other people/entities. - Giving our honorable police officers no reason to retaliate with force.

no I agree with you, and anyone that disagrees with us should be either executed or removed from the country.

Not really. However, anybody who kneels for the American flag, disrespects our police, and/or supports socialism or sharia law should, yes, be asked to pack up their garbage and get out. There’s plenty of backwards third world countries in Latin America, and Africa that could care less whether or not you immigrate there.

That is hardly what was being discussed.

On one side, you have 'protesters' looting, rioting, and burning businesses.

On the other side, you have people, lawfully armed, protesting with not a single shot fired, no looting, no arson, etc.

So the right wingers chose this election to act all unaccepting and stuff?

It's almost like if the election wasn't STOLEN, and everybody knows it, then they wouldn't be doing this.

I mean, this didn't happen before Obama' walked in, and,

Well, Who KNOWS now, if HE Ever got elected? Or if Any Democrat ever got elected by true votes.

What we DO KNOW, is the Democrat left! Have fought for 3+ years, and in court case after court case, across the country,
EXCLUSIVELY on the side,
of muddying up the process of Free and Fair, and easily countable, and VERIFIABLE VOTING in this country.

And, Actions speak louder than words,

If the Democratic Ticket, i.e. Biden and Harris, Knew this would happen, PRE MEDITATEDLY, THEN

THEY WOULD HAVE NOT FELT THE NEED TO CAMPAIGN AND HAVE BIG RALLIES,

You know, 3-4 months ago. When that's EXACTLY what they were doing!

No. A family or female was just terrorized by gun toting jackbooted thugs is all that happened...

And those rioters were protesting police murders of apprehended black men. You group was protesting because they believe Trump's lies and fairytales.

You are just cool with fascist terrorizing government officials in there homes with guns... Typical Ohio Trumpian. You go ahead and post your celebrations but if you are going to address me, start with sir.

How does violence, breaking into stores and stealing tv's, and shoes, what not, as well as burning the stores down...how does that relate, other than in your biased mind, how does that equate protesting murders?

You're fine with that behavior............burning, looting and rioting. Yet you never called those doing that, ruining stores they need, you never once called them jackbooted thugs. You agreed with them, just as you have done again. You're a special kind of special.

There is no compromising with the democrats.

Yes, I am fine with BLM holding peaceful protests against black men being brutally murdered by police across the country. I am not however good with looters and thugs destroying cities, but I do think many if not most of those were there from your side of the aisle.

And if you look back I never called them jackbooted thugs but I did condemn it and called the behavior criminal. The only difference is that I don't give a damn about property damage when it's compared to taking human life. I look at those victims of dirty racist cops as human beings and not worthless animals like many here seem to do. And before you put your vagina on your sleeve and get all offended, I don't think YOU think of them that way. But some people on here have demonstrated that profits, size of bank accounts, color of skin, and other BS reasons somehow make those victims less deserving of being treated like human beings and consistently defend cops killing people needlessly.

People have the right to peaceful assembly and protest.

However a public officials home with open guns is not the place to conduct a protest.

I feel bad for the woman, she never asked for this, and it has to be a terrible situation for her.

I hope there is sufficient law enforcement, but I would be applying for a restraining order the next day.

That's not really how restraining orders work. Or even the purpose of a restraining order.

If they are peacefully protesting in the street outside her house, it's perfectly legal.

I understand if liberals are scared of scary guns. Most of yall wear skirts.

So a couple things - not in any particular order. I was on my phone last night and texted quickly:

- The idea or the argument that if other Americans hold different views than yours, they are therefore free game to be intimidated by you and those like you by gathering at their home while you brandish/display guns is disturbing to me. Why do you need to display guns ? Why at her home? This seems more like intimidation than protesting.

- The idea or argument that those that disagree with you and your views should be banished from the country or don't deserve to be in the country - seems wholly and 100% unamerican. Just like the thousands military and ex-military who were supportive of Kaepernick - the American thought process used to be, "I will fight for your right to disagree with me".

- Just like the other "legal" protesters who showed up at state capitals dressed in camo and brandishing weapons - just like the Proud Boys that went to Oregon to "protect property" and who the police ignored and let wonder the streets like vigilantes. . . . it seems to me that many folks who thump their chest that this was a "legal" gathering would totally and utterly freak out if a gang of Black individuals wanted to hold a legal armed protest outside someone home.... And as for a gang of Black men roaming the streets of Portland? They'd probably have been shot on sight.

- There's probably as many or more Liberal gun fanatics on this board as their are any other of the different political spectrum ... trying to talk down to people raising concerns about what happened here by suggesting they are scared of scary guns and wear skirts? Save that for the play ground at recess.

THAT IS NOT THE POINT.

How the hell would you like it if a group of people camped outside your home, yelling and screaming and carrying guns in a threatening manner... All because you did your frickin job... Do you think that's just another bunch of "fine people"?

Lol yo these comments in this sub forum is starting to get wild.

I thought I was the turn up god around here. Boy trump losing has unlocked a whole new level I can’t reach.

Let's call it what it is: a blatant attempt at intimidation.

I might be a bit concerned, but not all that much. I'd be more worried about 2-3 people slinking around in front of my house for no apparent reason.

Most of them don't. And I've never been scared of other people having guns because I am armed to the hilt. I have said for a log time that every liberal in our nation do the same. There are Republicans calling for a civil war. I've been ready for that stupidity to happen for a long time now.

Those who believe anything Trump says have no idea how to lose with grace or dignity.

If you set up a Venn diagram of the following populations...

-people who probably should NOT be trusted to own/wield firearms

-people who assemble outside a person's house to demonstrate in an intimidating manner against common-sense pandemic measures

There's probably going to be quite a bit of overlap.

I would tend to agree with you. As far as I'm concerned a firearm is for the purpose of protection. When a person decides to use it as a method of intimidation it's obvious they would be far less trustworthy to own a firearm than someone who wouldn't.

Park an Abrams in your driveway and you shouldn't have a problem....

I don't believe you.. I think you'd be terrified... And you would be justified being worried...

Ask Tucker Carlson's wife how it feels.

Antifa Surround and Attempt to Break Into Tucker Carlson's House

https://redstate.com/streiff/2018/11/08/antifa-surround-attempt-break-tucker-carlsons-house-n97415

I think it's very hard to know exactly how you would react in a hypothetical situation. I do think it would be far more concerning to someone who has a small child. I think it would also be more concerning for someone who does not possess firearms to protect themselves in such a situation.

Neither of those circumstances exist for people such as myself and I would venture to guess that also applies for Peen. Much like him I believe there would certainly be some level of concern but not as much as some people who may not be armed to address such a situation or may hold less resolve.

Some of us have contingency plans for such a situation.

Did I ever tell you what my son, from Columbus, told me about he and his 4 brothers (half brothers)?

Not that I recall.

Good. It will remain that way.

Then I have no idea why you brought it up. But you do you.