Report: Browns have begun contract extension discussions with Rashard Higgins
Are the Cleveland Browns ready to roll out some more red carpet for “Hollywood”?
A report from Josina Anderson of ESPN indicates the Browns have commenced discussions with wide receiver Rashard Higgins on a possible contract extension.
Higgins is scheduled to become a free agent at the end of the season. He is playing on a one-year contract worth $910,000. The big wideout has 25 catches for 400 yards and three TDs in 2020, but his role has increased considerably since fellow WR Odell Beckham Jr. went on injured reserve after Week 7.
The 26-year-old has had an up-and-down five-year career in Cleveland. He’s developed good chemistry with QB Baker Mayfield, but fell into the coaching doghouse with Freddie Kitchens in 2019. Higgins is one of the most popular players in the Browns locker room.
Finding a value point could be difficult. The Browns are heavily committed financially to Beckham and Jarvis Landry at wide receiver already.
How do you guys feel about this? Has he earned the right to talk extension? He was quiet, never complained (at least publicly) about not being played. It can be argued that he's been even a little bit better than our highly paid Landry. I say pay da man! What about you all?
I hope this happens. Higgins chemistry with baker should be undeniable at this point.
I’ve been a big OBJ defender, but.....maybe this is a reach:
I feel like we would’ve been better off keeping perriman and staying with peppers over trading For OBJ.
Perriman, Landry, and Higgins just seemed like the better fit on offense.
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I hope this happens. Higgins chemistry with baker should be undeniable at this point.
I’ve been a big OBJ defender, but.....maybe this is a reach:
I feel like we would’ve been better off keeping perriman and staying with peppers over trading For OBJ.
Perriman, Landry, and Higgins just seemed like the better fit on offense.
I kind of agree with you. I don't say that in a dig to OBJ either. The guy is obviously an immense talent, but it just never seemed like he and Baker are in sync. Baker and Higgins on the other hand seem like they have telepathic communication between each other, even though Higgins does not have near the talent of OBJ.
Agree on Perriman, too. Some of Baker's best long balls in 2018 were to Perriman. I still remember that touchdown he caught against the Broncos. That was insane.
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Was just reading about Peppers... playing the best ball of his career:
24 combined tackles, four tackles for loss, 1.5 sacks, two quarterback hits, seven passes defensed, his first 2020 interception and a fumble recovery... in the last four games.
A team leader, a team captain, playing like a "kid" that just loves the game. That would look pretty good on our defense right about now.
Was just reading about Peppers... playing the best ball of his career:
24 combined tackles, four tackles for loss, 1.5 sacks, two quarterback hits, seven passes defensed, his first 2020 interception and a fumble recovery... in the last four games.
A team leader, a team captain, playing like a "kid" that just loves the game. That would look pretty good on our defense right about now.
yeah, I really was pissed we traded him. However, OBJ is a cog within the team. he has been a part of the resurgence. I'll take the trade for our record.
IIRC he was already the ONLY WR we gave a 2nd contract to? Hope he sticks around
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
IIRC he was already the ONLY WR we gave a 2nd contract to? Hope he sticks around
He';s actually on his 3rd.
He was drafted, and then cut in his (IIRC) 2nd year. He was then re-signed.He then became a FA this past off-season, and signed a 1 year deal.
Hopefully he gets a 3-4 year deal. There is no denying his connection with Baker. He is not a "great" WR, but he is very good at everything.
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
Yep. I don't feel like either team really came out ahead. Vernon has often been hurt and has only had a couple good games for us. He probably doesn't stick with us after this year.
I don't think Zeitler has done much for them either. The redeeming grace for us is that we now have Teller. Hope we can keep him.
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I really hate looking at these trades with the benefit of hindsight.
IMO, we went out and got guys to fill holes that are hard to fill (legit #1 receiver and DE/passrusher) with guys at positions that, generally, are not as hard to fill (guard and SS). We also gave up the picks.
In hindsight, maybe the extra picks were a bit much. I still won't grade that trade that harshly, though.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
Yeah, I'm not talking about the OBJ trade specifically. I was focused on the Vernon/Zeitler trade. As far as value goes, I could definitely see the advantage to trading a RG for a DE. I just wish it worked out in such a way that we could say we have two "bookend" DEs.
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Yeah, I'm not talking about the OBJ trade specifically. I was focused on the Vernon/Zeitler trade. As far as value goes, I could definitely see the advantage to trading a RG for a DE. I just wish it worked out in such a way that we could say we have two "bookend" DEs.
So far - for various reasons - it has been a case where Myles has himself a game, or Vernon has himself a game. We have yet to see where both are feasting and feeding off each other's efforts.
Maybe we start to see that soon?
Getting to that point with them and the DTs still playing sound ball sure would cover a lot of sins in the backfield. With us getting significantly better play from our LBers lately, we just might maybe be a defense that gets some things done.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
p.s. Great news on Hollywood. He needs to get a long-term deal. He has more than earned it. Lock him up; all he does is produce.
That said, there has CLEARLY been a past issue with him. He went into Freddie's doghouse, but even after Freddie was gone he was still in the doghouse and kept on ice. Whatever it is that had to change with him, hopefully it stays changed. We are a better team with him as long as he is the way he is right now.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
Finding a value point could be difficult. The Browns are heavily committed financially to Beckham and Jarvis Landry at wide receiver already.
Spotrac says his market value is $4.8m/year. That feels high to me based on production. I'd think he'd be in the 3-4m/year range - and add escalators if he get 50 catches or 500 yards in a season (for example, heck he may get those this year).
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It can be argued that he's been even a little bit better than our highly paid Landry.
I love Higgin's but I can't fool myself to think he isn't replaceable.
A very average WR IMHO who is the beneficiary of a great young QB. Small dollar contract not much more.
this could be true, but there's a connection with him and Baker that I feel can't be fulfilled with any ol average WR, no?
I could be wrong, but there's something there and has always been. Most QB's want that connection with a WR. We all know he's no superstar but he really doesn't need to be.
I think he is an above average WR. He's one of those guys that just produces. He runs good routes and gets open.
By no means is he better than Landry, and no doubt he benefits from the attention given to Landry (it would be interesting to see how many of his catches are while Landry is on the field with him vs off, and how many of his "wide open" catches are with Landry on the field), but he also does plenty well on his own.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
Right about what I suggested in the other thread the other day. I'd pay him that because I think he's got an added benefit of being a positive influence on how Baker plays.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
Landry has more wide open dropped passes (or just drops in general) than Hollywood does. Landry has less tds than Hollywood does. He's done more with less time on the field than Landry. His first catch of the season was a td pass if I'm not mistaken. I'm not saying he's better than Landry but he's been better lately. Landry was fairly quiet up until the last 4 games or so, maybe? Again, I'm not calling him a superstar or better than Juice.
We've had plenty of opportunities (and attempts) to get rid of Higgins, and yet he remains. We've done quite a bit to our WR corps and we've been unable to legitimately bump him off the roster.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
We've had plenty of opportunities (and attempts) to get rid of Higgins, and yet he remains. We've done quite a bit to our WR corps and we've been unable to legitimately bump him off the roster.
Not for want of trying .... and I think we are lucky because of our lack of success in ousting him!
The more things change the more they stay the same.
Its pieces of the puzzle not how many All Stars you can put on the team! jmho
No, I think there are two sides to that, and my point is not about which side is right, my point is: After this year we are getting enough evidence to prove one way or another, We can put 2020, 2007, 1994 and 2001, on one side,
and every other year on the other, and find similarities, but that can be an offseason discussion imo.
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
Not that they would or could, but I haven’t even sensed one player not respecting Stefanski or buying in
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
The best comparison I think fits is Higgins has become to baker what Tyler Lockett is to Russell Wilson.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Yeah, I'm not talking about the OBJ trade specifically. I was focused on the Vernon/Zeitler trade. As far as value goes, I could definitely see the advantage to trading a RG for a DE. I just wish it worked out in such a way that we could say we have two "bookend" DEs.
So far - for various reasons - it has been a case where Myles has himself a game, or Vernon has himself a game. We have yet to see where both are feasting and feeding off each other's efforts.
Maybe we start to see that soon?
Getting to that point with them and the DTs still playing sound ball sure would cover a lot of sins in the backfield. With us getting significantly better play from our LBers lately, we just might maybe be a defense that gets some things done.
Goodness, I have been hoping to see that sync up and no time would be better than this weekend. I'm not holding my breath, though.
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I agree, Purp. We are forging that link now after the snubs he has had for whatever reason previously. He is producing beyond a "show me" IMO. OBJ down, he produces. BM needs this. Brady was better when able to go to his faves. I do not think that he and Bakes are totally bonded yet. But it is worth developing in a longer contract.
PS I do not care who wins us games. Unleash The Elf!
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There's a comparison chart with 4 similar receivers on the site. One of the comparison points is yards after catch. The average of the others was 6.24, the lowest 4.15. Higgins was 1.9.
This confirms what I've observed. He has a great rapport with Baker. He gets open, catches the ball, and that's where you run the next play. You pay him for getting open and catching the ball.
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I like, how he only has 3 drops in 161 Targets in His Career with no drops this year in 34 Targets, if Landry is Vise Grips then Higgins is Vise Grips II L)
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