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Gordon, who is a member of Seattle football team, can play in last two games of this season. Commish reinstated Gordon after essentially another year off for stuff. Should we look for him in the off season, could bring a veteran perspective to WRs....not. Go Browns!!!!
https://www.nfl.com/news/seahawks-wr-josh-gordon-reinstated-by-nfl

I always wished the guy well with his fight against his demons... Such a waste of talent.

However this is such a crock of BS, after the way he was indefinitely suspended for the Browns. Went to the Patriots and got reinstated after another transgression, and now the same thing for Seattle. Not hard to see why some fans don't think the NFL is a level playing Field.

This dude has more lives than my cats.

Andapparently he can play forever in the NFL; this is really a big deal to me. How often? Is there a literal point of no return?

Is there an over/under for how long this one will last? Wrong message. Ban him.

He's no longer our problem. Enough time has passed, I no longer have any strong feelings towards him (other than pity). Let's be honest... no punishment put on him can come anywhere near the punishment he's put on himself (peeing away a guaranteed HoF-caliber career, and all that goes with it).

How old is he? 30-something, right? His prime is probably past. I expect the injury bug to start hitting him shortly (that is, if he can actually be on a roster for at least a season).

Good luck to him but I no longer care.

I don't wish anything poorly for the guy, but I just expect sometime in the next few weeks, or sometime next offseason, to read a headline about him putting himself back in rehab preemptively before he gets caught again.

The guy has demons and big time ailments. He also demonstrates a high degree of manipulation. I don't say that judgingly, but bringing it up as a condition to coincide with his substance abuse to demonstrate some type of severe underlying personality disorder.

One thing to keep in mind going forward... The NFL's marijuana policy has changed drastically since his last suspension.

Testing threshold has quadrupled and testing timeline has been reduced to two weeks before training camp.

Although Josh was (admittedly) an equal opportunity abuser, marijuana is no longer a problem for him.

His NFL mileage is the equivalent of a car some little old lady only uses to get to church on Sundays.

That's because it was always at the dealership for multiple recalls.

Deja vu

Dude struggled with, (substances) iirc, originally to get the suspensions, not performance enhancing, I honestly don't remember that first point as I remember the next two.

At one point the story included some financials that seemed to me to be devastating, and he'd need to play football indefinetly to pay his financials.

At another point, the public comments around him changed in a 24 hour period from everyones attitude to where, I concluded,

(Well why would multiple people suddenly come out with supportative comments about a public figure who they had been condemning as a head case, draw your own conclusion)

If so, they didn't want it to be public and that's his right.

As I remember it, he has that in his background, a dealership let him sell cars/work there awhile. He has demons, all of us have our own crosses, I can't believe folks still giving him chances. Yes, talent wasted.....Peace to him hopefully.....Glad he's not with Browns!!!!

That's not how I remember it. He simply couldn't live without the ganja. He peed dirty, and kept peeing dirty no matter how many chances he got. Dude had the brass ring right there within his grasp, all he had to do was put down the blunt. He couldn't do it.

Now many have argued that the restrictions on marijuana either shouldn't be, or shouldn't be as harsh. And while that may be true, it remains that it was a violation of the rules. That didn't stop him form repeatedly violating those rules.

JMHO, it ain't good our country has changed rules on MJ, now we got folks high on MJ and alcoholics running down the road...sweet, hope he stays clean- wonder how much he's been paid for each catch......LOT of dough....GO Browns!!!!

Amen. Won't last long IMO. SMH

LOL!

There's an interview on YT of him talking about his weed addiction. He said he used to walk the streets at night looking for a dealer while on suspension and his suspension didn't feel like one. It was more like a vacation in his eyes; more opportunities to smoke. He has/had issues. I wish him the best but I'm glad he's not our problem anymore. Such a waste.

His name is Flash for a reason.

"Flash in the pan."

All the potheads on this forum claim that pot isn't addictive.

Then what is this guy's problem?

If he has some kind of stress/personality disorder then why doesn't he go to a psych dr? I can't believe no one has ever suggested this to him.

There's meds for anxiety.

It was a lot more than pot.

I can agree/suggest that he is self medicating his mental disorder with the pot.

But why doesn't he go to the Dr? They could solve it for him.

marijuana
alcohol
xanax
codeine
cocaine
hydrocodone
oxycodone
adderall


And that's just what he has admitted as repeated abuse. With a gameday ritual of "bong rips and shots of whiskey".

If drugs didn't exist, Josh would be addicted to sex, food and long walks on the beach... It's not the drugs, it's Josh Gordon - the person.

People can't seem to comprehend the difference between a mental addiction and a physical addiction. Weed isn't physically addictive. It can be mentally addictive. But then so can Krispy Kreme and I don't hear people throwing fits about closing their locations down.

What most people fail to realize - and totally choose to downplay as if it isn't a big deal - is that the mental addiction is by far the more dangerous aspect. Beating a physical addiction is easy. Even the worst heroin addict is done with detox in a week or so. The physical addiction is broken and done.

Once you get past those first few days, it isn't the physical addiction that controls behavior or causes relapses or convinces the person to lower their moral standards to get their next fix. It is ALWAYS the mental addiction that lives inside your head that causes that. The alcoholic/addict that goes back out after 20 years sober and ends that night dead because they just needed to try it one more time.... that is PURELY the mental side.

Sadly the mental side applies to almost everything. It can be sex, gambling, food or almost anything. You simply can't legislate your way out of it.

Yes, it does.

Probably the biggest one in America that nobody ever talks about is Sugar. It is real and it is wrecking the health of this entire country.

Physical disabilities are more accepted then the mental disabilities. I guess that's why I hate the prison system. (another topic).

Gordon, Winslow both have / had talent..Heck you can add Weeden in that class. When a athlete can be given so many chances as Josh , and then you see a first time offender who has done no crime except some drug use locked up for years..It makes me feel like Josh should make minimum wage working in a facility helping others with addiction.

While I certainly agree with you, I think in order for Josh to do that he would first have to establish a long term ability to stay clean himself. I haven't seen that. I'm not sure how someone who is an addict themselves can actually be of help to other addicts. While I certainly think his story of what addiction has cost him might serve as a useful tool in warning other addicts, I think it may be best if someone else were teaching them that.

Any team that signs this turd is seriously hard up.

*snicker* Meathead rises again. lol How long will he last this time? Two games? Three? He plays just long enough to get enough money to party on and then he parties on...

I hope he has gotten better, and makes enough money to set his family up for life.

Yeah, the good news is if he can just even be a backup for 3 years in the NFL that's more money than I've made in my lifetime lol

Don't feel bad for him, but do wish him the best (unless we play them in the SB, then I hope he stinks for a game)

For normal people that would be a true statment, for Josh, not likely... He has expensive habits.

Well that's on him.

I could be perfectly fine getting high every day for the rest of my life if I had the chance at one of his contracts lol

Hmmm, sounds like a move to help SeaChickens in a late season playoff push....Goodell is a tool