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I could write a book about this experience.

Family members infected:

Me
My wife
My son
Mother-in-law
Father-in-law
Sister-in-law
Brother-in-law

All of us are fairly healthy individuals.

Sister-in-law was common denominator, she's a teacher and probably picked it up in class. Symptoms range from non-existent to mild (in Covid terms).

It was a 10 day ordeal with me, symptoms were a roller-coaster from day to day, especially in the energy department. Body aches and headaches were brutal for four days. Just now (two weeks) starting to taste food, still very little sense of smell.

Hot topic in my family is "getting reinfected". Mom and pop still scared to be around any of us... which just makes absolutely no sense to me, but hey, to each his own.

CDC, has said basically nothing on the subject other than "reinfection is rare".

For my money -- if you have antibodies you are in much better shape than if you don't. It will be a while before we have hard facts. As since the beginning, everybody is quick to relay anecdotal stories, pass them off as some measurement of fact, parrot them every chance they get, and fear-monger.

My son has been quarantined three times as he is a college student in a dorm. A roommate tested positive, none of the other three contracted it -- I was pretty surprised about that. I'm also shocked that colleges have been allowed to require on-campus learning when it was all just a means to justify tuition and dorm rentals. Go figure.

One brother-in-law and family have not been infected. They've been hiding under a rock since January. They were complete germaphobes before this started. Required family members to get shots before they could be around their newborns years ago (no thanks). They have always constantly "disinfected" their kids hands, isolated them from being around others, etc... Their kids are sick constantly, more than any kids I've ever seen.

Since Covid, they are on a power trip with the in-laws, who babysit. Constantly question them about who they've been around, where they go, etc. Whenever mom or dad are have been around another human, they are not allowed to babysit for 14 days, while they put them on guilt trips for daycare costs. This has been a huge strain on our family as my wife is afraid to go around her mom for fear her brother will find out and get mad. Mind you, everyone always wears masks and stays apart, and we only ever see them when outside.

The latest issue is whether we should all get together for Christmas. You can guess from reading above which family won't participate. Unfortunately, they also seem to think it is unfair if the rest of us decide to as they would be excluded.

Covid is more than a "virus" for some families.

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On the other side of the tracks is my step-dad. He's had health problems. Had heart surgery last year and discovered cancer this year. No one has been around him (besides my mom and caretakers) since he started chemo. Went to the hospital when he got sick - tested negative. They sent him home... five days later had Covid symptoms and tested positive. More than likely got it during hospital visit. Yesterday they put him on a vent and don't expect him to survive.


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https://covid19risk.biosci.gatech.edu/

This website is very fascinating. So, if I go to a bar with 50 people in it, in my county, there is a 59% chance at least 1 person has covid. willynilly

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Stay home and drink. It's safer, cheaper and you don't have to worry about a DUI. thumbsup

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If there’s 50 people currently in the bar likely there’s been far more coming and going over the previous 3 to 4 hours. Any one of them breathing potentially dangerous air from their lungs that still hangs in air at the bar.
Nope. No way. I’ll get take out food but you won’t see me pulling my mask off in a place like that for quite some time.


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I'm posting because I'm stuck in the middle of the two sides of my family.

My siblings and my dad are far closer to the "it's a hoax" side of the conversation (they don't believe it's a hoax, but have said it's no different than the flu). My wife's side of the family treat the virus like it's some sort of alien, sentient boogyman-type threat. It's exhausting talking to both sides, as nobody actually listens to experts and just sticks to their extreme opinions about how to handle it. Honestly, my wife's side of the family is the most frustrating to talk to. They have no problem making fun of people that are too cavalier about the virus, but then turn around and say that a quarantine is no good unless it's well over 2 weeks. How can you make fun of people for not listening to the experts and then not listen to the experts? Obviously, falling on the conservative side is better than the other way, but it's that previous sentence I wrote that just drives me bonkers.

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The whole thing is exhausting bro. I'm to the point where it's just easier to nod and agree with all sides, no matter how crazy their stories are.

Last week, the sister-in-law from the "sentient boogyman" side of the fence was telling us how we might lose our hair and teeth from the virus.


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On December 9th the deaths of 3,054 Americans were recorded in one day do to Covid 19, setting a new record.

I implore all of you to take practical measures to keep you and those you care about safe.


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" take practical measures " absolutely right .. Some folks have a problem with " follow the science " .. Don't consider ; wear a mask , social distance and wash hands frequently as Science .. Common sense , yes .

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I think social distancing is one of the easiest things in the world to do. Then you don't even have to wear a mask! I'd prefer to be social distanced from others because I don't like people in general. ooo However, for an introvert like me it allows a lot of time to self reflect and pick up new hobbies such as writing and meditation. I'd much rather be at home than out and about, there's just no need in most cases...


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For the first time since we started getting tested every week, kinda nervous for the results tomorrow, two people I work with on 3rd shift tested positive last week. I talked with both, handed them both equipment, received equipment back from them. Have no symptoms but still kinda worried.

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Last week, the sister-in-law from the "sentient boogyman" side of the fence was telling us how we might lose our hair and teeth from the virus.


Hell I don't need corona to do that grin


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Hope it's negative Frenchy.


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Hope all turns out well.


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Frenchy I hope your OK too.

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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
My friend just died this afternoon.


He was cremated. They had a drive thru (? drive by) viewing in light of everything.

It was really tough seeing big tough Ray, reduced to a tiny box of ashes...................

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I literally HATE this time of year. I don't hate Christmas, and what it is............I hate all the......ah, hell. Everyone wanting to be together, asking me to arrange for my son.......having to be here at a certain time, there at a certain time, can't stay long, pissing people off............wife's family stuck on "we ALWAYS get together on Christmas Eve, and we ALWAYS have this Christmas on Christmas day, giving no thought to others in the family that have their own traditions, let alone the fact WE havent had our own traditions.


And then I see Ray, in a box.

I love the idea, the REAL meaning of Christmas.....I just hate how it plays out, the stress, the issues it brings up. I hate this time of year, especially now. Hate it.

I can see how it depresses people, because it sure as hell depresses me. I'd rather just work, or go on vacation for a month. I can see why the holidays are prime time for suicide.

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Prayers to everyone dealing with this b.s. Hang in there Arch... hope your test is negative, Frenchy.

My step-dad lost his battle last night. My mom spent the last ten minutes with him on a @#$%@# Ipad. Heart-breaking. "Big Jim" was tough as nails, he laughed at cancer and said "it didn't know who it was screwing with". He was no match for Covid.

He and mom had been taking care of grandma as well. She's 94. Dementia has taken her down in a hurry. Hospice told my mom this morning that they don't expect her to make it through the day. Having a hard time getting a grip on all of this.


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So sorry to hear of this. Thoughts out to you, your family, and your mom........

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Fate...sorry to hear the news of your step father's passing.

Thoughts and prayers for you and your family during this tough time.




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My heart goes out to all those suffering.


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So very sorry Fate.

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I keep hearing/seeing/reading about when everything gets back to normal. However, for many people things will never be the same as they were 9-10 months ago.

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I am sorry for your losses, arch and fate....

My MIL seems to be handling thing ok. My FIL is in the hospital.


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Sorry to read this news, Fate. I hope all of you are able to find some peace and comfort with all this going on now.

Stepfathers are very special people.

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Condolences Fate and arch. This is tough.


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My heart breaks for you and your family .. Prayers go out you..

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arch and FATE: deepest condolences to you. This hateful thing is taking too many good people away from us all.


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I have no words. My truest, most sincere condolences FATE, and arch, too. Hang in there man.


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Should be good havent heard anything, thanks for your thoughts. Although thoughts for my dog Luna who was spayed yesterday would be appreciated.

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Ahem, just chiming in.

When are we going to treat this like a war? By my count, Covid is at least 4 times as deadly as the common flu. 3,858 dead today alone.

Pathetic


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What do you mean? We’re treating it like Vietnam and the war on terror.

Ya know, the ones we lost.


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To arch and Fate.... My deepest condolences. There is so much death in our nation right now and the longer this thing goes on, the more people and families it will touch. Stay strong and remember the fallen fondly.


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Arch and Fate. So sorry.


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My sincerest condolences to all those who have lost a loved one.

In many ways, this feels more challenging than even 9/11 was. We could get together and collectively share our hurt and challenges, well as our strength following 9/11. This disease has made this far more difficult, and riskier, for us to do such things. Loved ones have passed with no ability to spend time with their loved ones. I just pray that the vaccine will be as effective as the testing numbers indicate. I also pray for those afflicted, that they would be able to successfully battle this disease, and emerge healthy.


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Arch and Fate my deepest condolences. May the good Lord give you the strength to get through this. I've had my own issues with my wife as she had a reoccurrence of cancer 4 months ago. After a serious operation and treatments she is doing much better but has a ways to go. It's been a tough year for all and I really feel for those who have lost loved ones. God Bless

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God bless you and your family as well Homewood.


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Thanks Pit. I do have to say, being a crazy Browns fan that I am, us winning has made things a little bit easier to take. I hope it continues. Only a Browns fan would understand that.

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I don’t often click into COVID threads because I hear enough about it in real life.

But, I just read this page; sorry for the losses and other tough moments you guys have been going through. Hope I won’t have to do the same.


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