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'Credible threats of violence' prompt closure of Michigan capitol to the public ahead of Electoral College vote

"Credible threats of violence" have prompted Michigan authorities to close the state capitol to the public and shutter House and Senate offices, a spokeswoman said, on the day the Electoral College will formally declare Joe Biden the President-elect.

"The decision was not made because of anticipated protests, but was made based on credible threats of violence," Amber McCann, the deputy chief of staff and spokeswoman for Republican Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey, said in a statement.

Gideon D'Assandro, the communications director for state GOP House Speaker Lee Chatfield, also told CNN Sunday evening that the offices would be closed. He didn't elaborate on the security concern, but said the House and legislative bodies were informed about it by the Michigan State Police, which declined to comment on the matter to CNN.

Citing "safety and security concerns in the downtown Lansing area," a notification emailed to Michigan lawmakers advised staff to work remotely.

"Only those needed for the Electoral College will be permitted in the Capitol Building," says the email, a copy of which was shared with CNN by D'Assandro.

The Electoral College meeting will be streamed via Senate TV, McCann said.

The Electoral College count is typically a routine procedure to formalize the presidential election results, but this year, it has gained a new significance amid unprecedented pressure from President Donald Trump and several Republican allies who have sought to overturn the election in key battleground states -- including Michigan -- that he lost to Biden.

Michigan, in particular, has been an epicenter of tension this year. In the spring, Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer faced heated pushback over pandemic stay-at-home orders, and protesters, some of whom were armed, stormed the Michigan capitol. And weeks before the election, 13 people were charged in an alleged domestic terrorism plot to kidnap Whitmer.

Whitmer and other state Democratic officials have at times blamed Trump for provoking tensions, with the governor writing in an Atlantic op-ed that every time the President attacks her on Twitter, there is a "surge of vicious attacks" and that he is putting women leaders "at risk."

The White House has repeatedly disputed Whitmer's accusations.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/14/politics/michigan-state-house-and-senate-closed-threats/index.html

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I don't think there's any need for bloodshed. From what I'm reading here, given the disdain you guys have shown for Trump and his supporters over the last 4 years, if the 70 million Trumpians decide to cry and take their ball home, you would support their Right to Secede. In fact I'd think you guys would be pushing for it. Cut 'em loose. Let those brain dead, selfish, uneducated racist hillbillies go off and die.

You guys never viewed Trump as a legitimate President. You guys refused to even attempt to understand or show unity with those you disagreed with. Now the pendulum has swung. A significant number of people don't view Joe and his Ho as legitimate. I'll be honest and up front and tell you now that I have no intentions of 'unifying' with any of you. Even if there is a view point we both share, I'm not going to stand in solidarity with the likes of you.


We've arrived at an impasse, not only in policy, but also in how we view each other. There's no reason Mommy and Daddy can't go their separate ways without smacking each other around.

There really is no good argument against dissolving the current Union and allowing States to re-negotiate their alliances. Bonus points for looking more like Europe if we broke in to 3 or so different countries.

You are hilarious. Trump spouted division, hatred and name calling from the very beginning. Trying to change history about that now is a pipe dream. Yet I'm not surprised you support the very same actions that led our nation into its last civil war.

And of course there are innocent victims in even the reddest of states that still need our protection. Just like there are still Republicans in California.

No - that's not true. Not close to true.

As soon as the election was over - I said Trump won, he's president, I hope he proves me wrong.

From their I judged him by his performance, what he said, what he tweeted and what he did/didn't do. It was chaos.

I know for a fact Swish was equally emphatic in accepting he won and was POTUS ... others too.

Your level of dishonesty clearly knows no bounds

Lmfao. I really lol’d while reading this.

Yo if you conservatives/ right wing guys dislike your fellow Americans that much that you want to separate, just do it already.

Good lord, just go. Y’all just as pathetic as the lame ass celebrities who claimed their moving out if trump won.

But if you don’t plan on relocating and creating your own neo-confederacy or whatever y’all plan on calling it, then shut the hell up and move on.

Trust me, you won’t be missed.

Hell, y’all can call it Trumpia if you want to.

Seeing as how you trump supporters made it clear you rather worship him than the Christian god you falsely claim to follow.

Don't refer to a black woman or any woman as a Ho.

Trump supporters wave ‘ban homo marriage’ and ‘coming for Blacks and Indians’ signs at Washington MAGA march

Trump supporters at a Washington Million MAGA March brought signs reading “ban homo marriage” and “coming for Blacks and Indians first”.

The Million MAGA March in Washington DC on Saturday (14 November) saw droves of Trump supporters take to the streets to back the president’s debunked and baseless claims that the election was “rigged” and “fraudulent”.

Thousands MAGA hat-wearing protesters were joined at the rally by members of violent, homophobic far-right groups such as the Proud Boys, many of whom wore T-shirts emblazoned with the phrase “stand back, stand by”.

According to the BBC, conspiracy theorist and “extremist” Alex Jones, who previously described the LGBT+ community as a “bunch of pedophiles”, addressed the crowd.

But some of the placards brought by protesters were so shocking, that they even “disturbed” a Fox News anchor.

In the middle of an interview with Mike Allen, co-founder of the US news website AXIOS, Fox anchor Eric Shawn interrupted: “We just saw a very disturbing sign, it said ‘Coming for Blacks and Indians, welcome to the new world order’.”

Frazzled, he added: “I mean, who the hell knows, you know, what people have, and what they will say about those things.”



Another placard that also appeared during the broadcast read: “Make America great again: Ban homo marriage.”



Donald Trump drove through the march, waving to protesters. Later, violence broke out between his supporters and counter protesters, and officials told the BBC that 20 people were arrested on charges including assault and weapons possession. One stabbing was reported.

Despite claims by White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany that the Million MAGA March drew “more than one MILLION marchers”, the actual estimated turnout was around 10,000.

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/11/16/mi...-homo-marriage/

First time I've ever seen the source, but the Fox News tweet is real for sure.

My bad bro, I thought the electoral college vote was Tuesday, but it was today.

He sounds just like Trump then blames the other side. At least Jill didn't do nude photo shoots. Let's face it, it's been proven that if someone wants to go the ho route, Donald sends them checks.

And BTW Devil, my post was far more honest than yours was.

We won't be missed??? Oh OK who is going to pay all your taxes and programs?

California is running its self into the ground. Their big business is leaving as fast as they can and a lot of their regular people are trying to get away from high taxes.

I know that facts don't matter, but just in case....

The ten states with the lowest net federal funding per resident are:

New Jersey (-$2,368)
Massachusetts (-$2,343)
New York (-$1,792)
North Dakota (-$720)
Illinois (-$364)
New Hampshire (-$234)
Washington (-$184)
Nebraska (-$164)
Colorado (-$95)
California ($12)

Here are the 10 states with the most federal funding per resident:

Virginia ($10,301)
Kentucky ($9,145)
New Mexico ($8,692)
West Virginia ($7,283)
Alaska ($7,048)
Mississippi ($6,880)
Alabama ($6,694)
Maryland ($6,035)
Maine ($5,572)
Hawaii ($5,270)

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/federal-aid-by-state

Looking at facts rather than posting your "feelings" and "what you've been told" can be very helpful.

Like I said before, they can't afford to secede.

My mind is continuously blown by statements like this (both from the right and left (especially folks like OCD)).


You are allowed to be a Republican AND dislike Trump. Just like I can lean left but not like Bernie.

I just don't get it. I don't think I'll ever understand how someone can be firmly behind Trump (NOT republicans, just Trump) while simultaneously preaching unity/patriotism.

President Trump's administration has certainly done good things for the country, but I wholeheartedly believe that he is the worst thing that has happened to the USA in a long time.

The trump administration has certainly not done good things. The American people have done good things in spite of a POS potus.

STOP WITH THE FACTS ALREADY ... SO INCONVINIENT FOR CULT OF TRUMP SUPPORTER. SHEEEESH.

TRULY CLUELESS.

California has one of the largest economies on earth. And they and New York pay way more into the national coffers than any red state! lmao Your alt right alternative facts are a national embarrassment. Your taxes only go to keeping you chained to your job/business.

I think it's funny how so many welfare or other Government benefit collecting republicans (not saying Duty is one) say this same crapola every day with a straight face and 1000% belief. This is what misinformation not being called out does to America. ALL GOPer media should be shut down or charged enormous dumbass tax.

Duty, your ire on the left like they are sucking money out of the economy by not paying taxes is wrong too. This is the rich and corporations wanting you to blame the OTHER, while they are the ones paying too little or nothing in taxes. Yet you and your side protect them at every turn. They are socialist bro! Trump is a socialist too! He paid $750 in taxes or some crazy crap like that! Where was your rage? Don't be a hypocrite, call him out on it here and now!

That is not the most relevant statistic to illustrate the point. How about taxes paid versus revenue received.

California sends more money to Washington then it gets back.

Damn, that was quite the KO.

Talk about bloodshed...

JC


I don't think people look at the big picture in order to support their point of view.

Federal funding comes in many forms.

Take road funding, which is huge for all states.

It benefits all states for other states to have decent roads, so all states share in funding programs.

Federal spending per capita isn't a good measure for any to use.

If all states receive such things as road taxes, that's an equal distribution. I understand that breaking down which states receive the most federal dollars per capita is an inconvenient fact however.

If the discussion is about how some states might want to secede and how economically viable that it ... then Federal spending per capita is one of the most relevant indicators to look at.

Man Devil, are you really into revisionist history or what? Yikes man.

Yeah, but he was talking about roads and stuff, not people.

Right, because federal spending isn't just factored on social type programs.

Are you sure that all federal spending per state was not included in those per capita numbers? I'm not sure.

I can't vouch for the accuracy or authenticity of the data ... but if the information is as posted "Net Federal Funding per capita" .... if means just that. Which states contribute more - or receive more Federal funding (financial benefit).

So - for example - NJ has more contributions to the Federal coffers than it withdraws to the tune of $2K+ per person per year. AL has a net benefit - they receive more money from Federal coffers than they contribute.

The data does not mean the state will be poor or insolvent without Federal aid / spending - but it indicates how big a hole it might leave for the state to fill.

States like KY, NM, WV, AK, AL which all benefit massively from Federal spend per capita all jump out as states that would seem to lack a significant state economy to secede.

It doesn't matter if the Federal Spend is on Roads, Infrastructure, Medical or whatever. The $$$ are simply the $$$.

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Kansas mayor received so many threats after supporting a mask mandate that she resigned

A Kansas mayor has resigned after backlash to comments she made in support of a mask mandate in her city.

Dodge City Mayor Joyce Warshaw submitted her letter of resignation Tuesday. It was effective immediately and it cited concerns for her safety.

"Life has dealt out many challenges in our world that have perhaps caused many people to act inappropriately but I do not feel safe in this position anymore and am hopeful in removing myself this anger, accusations and abuse will not fall on anyone else and will calm down," Warshaw wrote in the letter.

The Dodge City commission voted in favor of a mask mandate on November 16 following a spike in coronavirus cases in the western Kansas city which has a population of nearly 30,000 people.

In a December 11 USA TODAY story, Warshaw expressed her support for the mandate and said that it wasn't until the threat of the flu season and the spike in national cases that city officials felt it was necessary to pass a mask mandate.

"We just felt like we had to do something so everybody was aware of how important it was for everybody to be responsible for each other's health and well-being," Warshaw was quoted in the story, causing backlash from citizens.

Since the article was published, Warshaw has received threatening phone calls and emails from Dodge City citizens, according to the Dodge City Daily Globe.

Police are investigating the threats but could not provide any further information as it is an ongoing investigation, authorities told CNN.

"I understand people are under a lot of pressure from various things that are happening around society like the pandemic, the politics, the economy, so on and so forth, but I also believe that during these times people are acting not as they normally would," Warshaw told the Daily Globe. "I think it's best for me and the city that I love to remove myself from the commission at this time and from the mayorship so that the city can move forward and be the best that it can be because I believe in the city."

Warshaw was the third female mayor in the city's history and had served on the city commission since 2012, according to the Daily Globe.

The vacancy will be discussed at a city commission meeting later this month.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronaviru...igned-1.5233749

Where the hell is Matt Dillon when you need him?

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Michigan lawmaker stripped of duties after refusing to rule out violence at electoral college vote

Republican state representative removed form committee assignments for rest of term by party leaders

Republican legislative leaders in Michigan have stripped a lawmaker of his committee assignments on Monday after he hinted about his involvement in a group that intends to disrupt the Electoral College vote scheduled for the afternoon.

Representative Gary Eisen, who represents St Clair Township, made the remarks in the morning during an interview with radio station WPHM of Port Huron.

When asked about the electoral college, set to meet in the state Senate chamber to cast the state's 16 electoral votes for President-elect Joe Biden, Mr Eisen said that he and others were planning some sort of event and that he could not rule out the possibility of violence.

Mr Eisen also called a threat that was received against the state capitol in Lansing, “convenient” as it would make it more difficult for supporters of Donald Trump to contest the Electoral College results.

“We have been consistent in our position on issues of violence and intimidation in politics — it is never appropriate and never acceptable. That is true of threats or suggestions of violence against Governor Whitmer, Secretary Benson, Representative Johnson and others on the Oversight committee, Republicans, Democrats, and members of the Electoral College. That applies to threats made toward public officials, and it must also apply when the public officials open the door to violent behavior and refuse to condemn it. We must do better."

He continued: “We as elected officials must be clear that violence has no place in our democratic process. We must be held to a higher standard. Because of that, Representative Eisen has been removed from his committee assignments for the rest of the term.”

Both the Capitol and legislative buildings in Lansing are closed on Monday due to a “credible threat of violence” according to a state Senate spokesperson.

Mr Eisen was asked in the radio interview to elaborate on what he meant as his comments sounded dangerous. He was also asked if he could ensure people would not get hurt.

"No. I don’t know. Because what we’re doing today is uncharted. It hasn’t been done. And it’s not me who’s doing it... it’s the Michigan Republican Party," Mr Eisen replied.

A Republican Party spokesperson said that they were unaware of what Mr Eisen was referring to, the Detroit Free Press reports.

The electoral college vote in the state takes place at 2pm. A small group of protesters had gathered in front of the Capitol building on Monday lunchtime.

Mr Eisen was one of 16 state lawmakers from Michigan who signalled their support for the Texas attorney general’s lawsuit alleging mass voter fraud across four states, including their own.

The Supreme Court refused to take up the case on Friday evening.

President-elect Joe Biden won Michigan by more than 154,000 votes.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...n-b1773831.html

From my understanding - and I could be wrong - it is all federal spending, so you'd have more fixed costs (like roads and whatnot) combined with variable costs (welfare, assistance, etc.) divided by the number of people to get a sense of total federal expenditures on a per-person basis.

Ex-Houston cop hired by GOP megadonor arrested for aggravated assault while hunting fake ballots

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ex-houston-cop-hired-gop-133319161.html

Police in Houston arrested a former Houston Police captain on Tuesday, charging him with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon for allegedly running an appliance repair truck off the road and holding its driver at gunpoint in a failed bid to find fake ballots. The former cop, Mark Aguirre, had been hired by the Liberty Center for God and Country, a conservative group led by Republican megadonor Steven Hotze, to find evidence of the widespread voter fraud conservatives baselessly believed was being carried out in Harris County, The Texas Tribune reports.

"We are lucky no one was killed," Harris County District Attorney Kim Ogg said in a statement. "His alleged investigation was backward from the start — first alleging a crime had occurred and then trying to prove it happened." The assault charges carry up to 20 years in jail

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Good god.

Terminal dumbassery.

Messing with Texas is fun.

The main issue is that Biden is ass.

I think it says a lot about the political parties when they give us people like Biden. Dude will bend over to China the first chance he gets. How much you want to bet we'll be in a foreign war during his tenure? How much do you want to start the wager at? How much? I'm taking bets. He's a globalist and wants the US to be the world's policeman again. Show me where he is for America first. I want by what he says then an action used as a real world example.

America First was a slogan, not an actual thing. And if you think Biden is an ass, you weren't paying attention to trump. I guess things like mocking a disabled reporter, calling his opponents names, saying he would grab women by the vagina or saying Obama was a Muslim born in Kenya doesn't qualify as being an ass to you. I could go on but Trump is the biggest ass to ever sit in The White House. Sadly you know it yet follow his example. You're just salty because he's a loser.

FYI - the lack of "an" in his statement I think distinguishes that he doesn't think Biden is AN ass, but that he's just a poor candidate. I could be wrong, though.

Not agreeing or disagreeing, just clarifying (I think???).

Once you elect a sorry human being to be president and the people get to witness that man up close for four years, it doesn't take much of a candidate to beat him.

Yeah, again, I agree with you there. I just was sharing my interpretation of TB's post.