DawgTalkers.net Forums The Archives 2020 NFL Season Looking Back: Browns 42 Ravens 47 Post Game

There was nothing wrong with Baker, Stefanski, or the offense tonight.

The D, as has been the case all year, can't get off the field on 3rd and 4th downs.

Then to not double cover Andrews on the last drive is an egregious fireable offense. The whole nation knew that's who he was throwing to, except Woods and the Browns D. You have players running into each other on 4th done. Geesh. Friggin embarrassing. They let a RB beat them with the pass.

Good to see you post. I agree with you on the coach and QB. We need some more pieces on D but I’m not going to complain about it now. We are in the playoff hunt with three games to go.

only 2 seconds left... worth a shot making him stand out in the cold a bit longer... I know it doesn't typically work but couldn't hurt...

These next few games with be excruciating if they are close. Our margin for error is gone against the Giants and Jets.

Well a few good plays covered up what was a garbage game for him in my opinion. Constantly getting out of position and letting Jackson run wild.

I was pissed with they gave Tucker and extra 25 seconds.

Offensively, the Browns can play with anyone.

Defensively, they are terrible. Maybe Ward and Harrison will make a difference, but there is a lot of work that needs to be done in the off season.

It is progress, and I dislike moral victories, but they showed they have come a long way since the start of the season.

The offense balled out today.

The defense is a hot mess. Parkey may of had a bad game but the defense lost this game. Forget Lamar, they let Trace McSorely drive down the field.

On to the Giants. We need 2 more wins to get in. Let’s start that next week.

I saw Garrett open up huge lanes for Lamar, but didn't notice Vernon.

Both are must wins.... I almost feel like we need to win out but at the very least we have to beat the NY teams...

Thank you. It was a good game. This team has exceeded any expectations I had before the season started.

2 sacks and a pass defense c

I did not even see this. I was too infuriated to watch the last FG.
Not shocked. Jobbed again... Just one more thing to put into the poopile.

This should make the team salivate for the rest of the schedule...we're relevant.

Did Wills come back in? Whoever filled in for him did a good job. No complaints about the O line.

He came back.

when the offense puts up 42 and loses, the problem is not the kicker, it's the defense.

Needed to play disciplined and physical on defense and we were anything but. That is how you beat the Ravens. That 4th and 5 for the game was hot garbage. Vernon dropping into coverage - blitz inside leaving Lamar the entire half field to roll out. Absolutely confounding. MJ Stewart is God awful and he is on Andrews at the end of the game. Really. Definitely missed Ward and Harrison.

On to the Giants - hope there is no hangover from this. Need to ramp it back up and beat a better than expected Giants team this Sunday.

I meant regarding allowing Lamar to run (the post I replied to... should've quoted it).

yeah... I'm hoping this pisses them off and gets them focused... partically the defense...

I lost it when I saw that play developing ( Vernon dropping into coverage ) Thats what I talk about when I rag on Woods .. Reminds me of Wilks last season.

Saw this too, I know it was BS, but Tucker still makes that from 60.

Agreed 100%, though kickers...Gillan is the 25th ranked punter last I looked. Not good enough.

yeah... that was a hell of a kick... he's the best kicker in the NFL

Where is the safety we claimed off waivers from Kansas City?

Maybe. Anything can happen. The issue is they didn't let the penalty happen or rush them

Instead they trotted out there like it was an xp and had all of the time in the world.

42 points should be enough to beat any NFL team. I'll leave it at that.

Inactive.

I agree with you on most everything, except I'm not srue about Woods, itsure seems like he made zero adjustments in the game, Lamar just kept having his way when he'd go to his right, both with the pass and especially him running the ball.

Parkey needs to go, and the D needs some upgrades, LB and the front 7 need a bit of help, need another CB to go with Ward and maybe Greedy if he can hang.

You are also correct in saying this teams record is inflated, by a weak schedule. We've beaten 7 or 8 teams that were below .500 and only 2 teams, I believe, that were .500 or better, Colts and Titans. So that means we're good at beating bad teams, but we have not proven that we can sonsitently beat the good teams, not yet.

There's talent to build around and I don't think were that far away. Just need to do a good job beefing up the D and that should go a long way to making us completely legit.

So, I havae one other Q, should we trade OBJ?

We do not trade OBJ until week 6 to see if Baker is better with him or if he regressed with OBJ.

I don't care about the record being inflated... we've beat 9 of the teams on our scheudle.... we've sucked for years so of course our schedule is easier than some others....

and I'd trade OBJ in a heart beat... we play better without him... Baker can distribute the ball around without having to worry about getting it to OBJ.... trade him for some picks and draft defense...

The safety we had playing tonight was really inactive.

I think this game desperately showed why we need OBJ. We could not complete a pass against man coverage until their corners started going down. You need a dynamic number one. Hopefully with Baker's growth this year he can learn to play with OBJ. It's a Baker issue, not an OBJ issue.

I think we've already seen Baker is better without him, when he was in the game, the Browns and Baker would target OBJ way too much and it cost us multiple times.

I'm not saying not to use him, but the ball needs to be spread around, Landry has been doing way better than OBJ has for us, so has Chubb and even Hunt. I even think HOoper would be better if he had not had to have his appendix removed.

j/c

Good game, too bad we lost. The offense has arrived. The defense, not so much. Blaming Woods, as some have, makes no sense to me. We all can see he's working with starters who should be back-ups, or in at least 1 case, retired.

The improvement this team has shown is remarkable. It would be a storybook ending to make the playoffs, get to, and win the SB. But realistically, what the Browns have shown is more than most of us reasonably expected.

KS has done a fantastic job, but if he has a weakness, it's clock management. Not stopping the clock before the 2 minute warning, then not burning more clock before scoring, although it's hard to fault Hunt for working so magnificently to score. But Stefanski is a rookie, and allowed to make rookie mistakes.

I'm really looking forward to 2021.

One of Stefanski's greatest attributes is clock management.

I will second this. The announcers also talked about it.

That being said, the team doesn't seem to fold up like a tent anymore which is nice to see.

I get the argument that Baker played better both before the OBJ trade, and since his injury. But I'm not sold on the conclusion that it will always be that way. Baker is learning and growing. It could be that when OBJ is healthy and back, the experience of success without relying on OBJ may mean Baker will be better at integrating OBJ rather than relying on him.

I have noticed that Stephanski does not generally use TO’s until under 1 minute. It is a philosophy that has some merit. As we saw with the Hunt TD, a minute can be a lot of time.

One wonders if Hunt does not score if the game goes to OT. Potentially with a different result.

Scoring too early with the game about to end is not a good thing.

He's certainly better than Pettine was. Pettine saved timeouts like he planned to give them as Christmas presents. He ended a bunch of games with TO still in his pocket.

Trace McSorely trying to get Lamar to hurry up.