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He didn't have a bum wheel. There was absolutely no evidence in the way he moved after he came back that he was suffering from leg cramps.. I think that was all a lie. I think this is much more likely.



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He had an IV wrap on his arm when he came back.

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He did make throws to get the field goal.

He will never be mistaken for a super accurate passer.

But he is so hard to handle as a runner pass plays will be open.

I remember I went to a Browns game in Atlanta when Vick was the qb. Belichick was coaching the Browns. He took Vick out of the game as a runner. He dedicated one player a DB to always spy on Vick. A guy with matching speed that made Vick hesitate so others could gang tackle.

Lamar at some point will take that one hit that will take him out. Hard to run the ball 20 times a game as a qb and escape injury.

In the meantime he is a threat that can beat you.


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My god Colin cowherd really has a punchable face after his baker take.

Video isn’t up yet but watched it live.


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#Browns Andrew Sendejo is in the concussion protocol


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted By: Swish
My god Colin cowherd really has a punchable face after his baker take.

Video isn’t up yet but watched it live.

Herd is a hack.

What did he say - other than a couple clips on this board that have been posted I have not heard him for years and years. He's like Skip Bayless ... if I hear them on a radio or TV platform I switch to something else. Won't listen to the contrived nonsense.

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JK Dobbins:

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#Browns Andrew Sendejo is in the concussion protocol


So did Dobbins post that after Sandejo was announced concussed? Man that's a trash comment if he did.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
My god Colin cowherd really has a punchable face after his baker take.

Video isn’t up yet but watched it live.


That was an all time classic take. He must of been up all night coming up with that angle.

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Originally Posted By: Rishuz
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My god Colin cowherd really has a punchable face after his baker take.

Video isn’t up yet but watched it live.


That was an all time classic take. He must of been up all night coming up with that angle.


I'll also add that over the years I think Steve A has become less shock jock and more objective. He calls it like he sees it, albeit sometimes with dramatics. He gave Bake a ton of credit this morning.

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JK Dobbins:

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#Browns Andrew Sendejo is in the concussion protocol


So did Dobbins post that after Sandejo was announced concussed? Man that's a trash comment if he did.


Agreed.


And ... he is trash talking Sandejo.


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Yeah, he tweeted that after it was reported that Sendejo is out


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
Yeah, he tweeted that after it was reported that Sendejo is out

Well I hope he gets injured his next carry.

I know he's a Buckeye - but he's obviously pond scum.


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JK Dobbins:

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#Browns Andrew Sendejo is in the concussion protocol


What a douche.


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Yeah, he tweeted that after it was reported that Sendejo is out

Well I hope he gets injured his next carry.

I know he's a Buckeye - but he's obviously pond scum.


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My god Colin cowherd really has a punchable face after his baker take.

Video isn’t up yet but watched it live.


That was an all time classic take. He must of been up all night coming up with that angle.

So is somebody going to give the general synopsis or what?


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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
Yeah, he tweeted that after it was reported that Sendejo is out

As much as people rag on Sendejo, and much of it is deserved, I can only guess that he's better than the next option... and we can't afford to keep losing people in the secondary.


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I will give Berry some crap for staying put and not getting Sendejo replaced before the deadline. This dude was awful, and had huge misses on like all of their scoring plays in the first half.


I, too, would love to hear the reasoning behind this. There were a few players to be had that could have helped us a lot, yet we stood pat with what we had... Why?


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I think we also need to find some Lamar kryptonite in the form of a LB or LB/SS. Even if he's just a special teams guy that only gets to play D when we're playing the Ravens is fine.


Hopefully, we add another Safety AND one or two LBers this offseason. This defense needs some serious bolstering, and we need guys that can stay on the field.... err, actually GET ON the field. Stay away from those soft/fragile LSU players.



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Originally Posted By: GratefulDawg


Can we talk about this? Can any one explain anything about this?
Can Baker just raise his hands and get time added to the play clock when he needs it?



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One thing about Sendejo ... he always tries his butt off. He’s not good obviously ... but he seems to really care and try


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I feel that's a rather meaningless conversation to have. If your defense gave up over 40 points and you need to have a conversation about giving a kicker an extra 25 seconds, somehow I think you're missing the forest for the trees.


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No.. football is a game of inches. Time runs out. 5 yard penalty enforced. Maybe he misses and we win.



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Whatever you say. Somebody gave up a lot of inches for them to score over 40 points before the FG and the S.


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So why does that make it okay for a team to get a free pass on a game winning FG?


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No.. football is a game of inches.


It might be a game of inches, but it apparently is not a game of 4 extra guys on the field for the defense.


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So why does that make it okay for a team to get a free pass on a game winning FG?


It doesn't make it okay. What is missing is the context when you consider that, without taking other factors into consideration. If our defense hadn't played horrific and gave up over 40 points none of this would be an issue.

I mean if one wishes to overlooked everything that happened in this game up until that point it sounds like a huge deal. But it was well within the power of our defense to have made this a non issue. And just to add, Tucker had been perfect on FG's over 50 yards thus far in the season. So the odds are it wouldn't have made a difference anyway.


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Yes, the defense absolutely should have done more up to that point, but at that point there was nothing left to do. You're arguing two separate points in time, both of which affected the outcome. The non-call on the clock was just the last item that mattered.

Neither mitigates or gives a pass on the other. They're both completely valid.


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I imagine you meant Butch Davis...?

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I mean if one wishes to overlooked everything that happened in this game up until that point it sounds like a huge deal.

Yes, this is, in fact, exactly what the job of the officials is.. to take absolutely NOTHING that has happened up to now into account and forget how we got to this point.. and make the correct call.

I don't care if we had given up 90 points, fixing that is for the coaches to worry about... getting the call right in the moment is for the officials to worry about.

"Oh it doesn't matter if they got the call right because we hadn't played a great game defensively" is an absolutely horrible take.

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And just to add, Tucker had been perfect on FG's over 50 yards thus far in the season. So the odds are it wouldn't have made a difference anyway.

You have no idea what goes on in the mind of a kicker when you move them from 55 yards to 60 yards when your career long is 61.. could he have made it from 60? Yea, he could have.. but that's not even close to the point.

I will edit in, I'm not sure what the right call is.. maybe this guy in his living room is right and maybe he's not... but if the officials were wrong, then they were wrong. We can't change it now and it's of little consequence.

Kind of like them missing 15 guys on the field.
Kind of like them calling intentional grounding when Baker had a 280 lb man hanging on his throwing arm and was trying to get the ball downfield to Hunt, who was open.
Kind of like when the DB grabbed our WR by the arm as he was trying to accelerate under a pass.

I'm sure the Ravens have their own grips about the officials but on the game winning play, if they were wrong, they were wrong.

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Originally Posted By: Swish
My god Colin cowherd really has a punchable face after his baker take.

Video isn’t up yet but watched it live.



The bs about how the browns miss so often on QBs, that Baker is actually a miss, but we're doing everything we can to disguise him as a franchise quarterback making him something he's not because we don't want to look like we missed on Baker...?

That Baker take?

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My god Colin cowherd really has a punchable face after his baker take.

Video isn’t up yet but watched it live.



The bs about how the browns miss so often on QBs, that Baker is actually a miss, but we're doing everything we can to disguise him as a franchise quarterback making him something he's not because we don't want to look like we missed on Baker...?

That Baker take?


You do know he is just trolling, right?
That's his schtick.

Why would y'all keep biting at that hook?


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If the offense scores 42 points and the team loses, then it's on the defense. Pretty simple there.

Everything on defense was bad from scheme, to talent, to execution.


Baker's the my costed us 7 too.

He had a great night but the int was also a 7 point swing.


We're trying to throw the ball downfield and he checked the ball down to Trent Richardson and the Indians on the choice.
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We lost because we need better DBs. The Defense is physical but its slow. Need more people to fly around like myles.
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DBs, LBs... More DBs

I think another round with the WRs that Baker has... And they become even better. Maybe another physical WR willing to battle with mor DBs with space?


This giants game is going to be crucial

.. Daniel Jones runs... But be doesnt run like Lamar. LaMar makes everyone look slow.



Our Defense is kinda trash but I do think with Vern

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Cant dwell on the game that got away.

Time to contain that and make the giants not want to play you this week

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If the offense scores 42 points and the team loses, then it's on the defense. Pretty simple there.

Everything on defense was bad from scheme, to talent, to execution.


Baker's the my costed us 7 too.

He had a great night but the int was also a 7 point swing.

Agree. Bakers one big mistake cost us 7 points and our defense never made a play to counter it.. forced turnover, 4th down stop, etc..


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Kind of like them missing 15 guys on the field.
Kind of like them calling intentional grounding when Baker had a 280 lb man hanging on his throwing arm and was trying to get the ball downfield to Hunt, who was open.
Kind of like when the DB grabbed our WR by the arm as he was trying to accelerate under a pass.

I'm sure the Ravens have their own grips about the officials but on the game winning play, if they were wrong, they were wrong.


As I understood it from a discussion of officials a few weeks ago in regards to grounding. It does not matter if there is an influence on the passer, if he is being grabbed and turned, it only matters where the ball goes. So if the ball doesn't go where they think a receiver is it is grounding, even though he was turned.

I think one was pretty ticky-tack though, there was a receiver close enough.

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I'm not sure what "Baker's my cost us 7 points" means.

Our kicker left 4 points OFF the board, no doubt. Get those 4, more than likely we win.

Baker's INT was basically a pick 6. That's 6 pts ON the board for the ravens.

That's 10 pts we didn't score and or gave away.

That's why you play the games. Mistakes get made, you need to overcome those mistakes. And the Browns almost did.

Also, Jackson running just killed us.

The TEAM lost the game - not parkey, not baker, not the defense. Live and learn, get better.

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Baker's the my costed us 7 too.

He had a great night but the int was also a 7 point swing.



I have a friend who is convinced that interception cost us the game.

I'm like you do realize we were leading 35-34 late in the game, right?

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I simply felt like our defense’s inability to contain Jackson is the reason we lost. Everything else was secondary


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Does anyone think that between the injury and Covid Myles isn't 100%? I do

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