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I was at the game last night and it was electric for awhile, too bad we lost. I was really looking forward to partying in the streets all night. Oh well. Lets get em Saturday with Fausto!
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I said this in the other thread and I'll say it again, if we make it to the big dance, I want Fausto starting game one. He's our true ace and IMO should be the Cy Young winner.
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I said this in the other thread and I'll say it again, if we make it to the big dance, I want Fausto starting game one. He's our true ace and IMO should be the Cy Young winner.
Talk about a loss of confidence for C.C. then.
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Very disappointed in CC.... what is wrong with him and big games?
Fausto better come up big on Saturday..
Beckett,,, Man that guy is amazing..
ManRam!....... Manny,, you are an IDIOT! Hit the ball, run the bases.. If it's a Homer,, someone will let you know! that had to be the longest single in the history of the game!
In the 5th inning (I believe) when Lofton got in to a shouting match with Beckett, I knew we were going to lose.. Reason was that it was pretty darn clear that Beckett got inside the Indians head... Lofton never goes off like that.. Beckett had us and every one of our players and fans knew it..
Hey, it happens, sometimes you run into a buzz saw,,, last night, we did!
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I said this in the other thread and I'll say it again, if we make it to the big dance, I want Fausto starting game one. He's our true ace and IMO should be the Cy Young winner.
Talk about a loss of confidence for C.C. then.
Look at how rattled he is! You can't teach poise. I suffer from the same problem he does, when I get rattled I have a hard time snapping out of it.
C.C. is CLEARLY rattled and has little poise in the playoffs, therefore I wanna give the ball to the guy who has so far proven he can stay calm and get the big outs.
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I said this in the other thread and I'll say it again, if we make it to the big dance, I want Fausto starting game one. He's our true ace and IMO should be the Cy Young winner.
Wont happen so its not even worth talking about.
Also if Fausto pitched game 1 it would be on short rest.
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I want to see Pronk sit the bench and maybe put Trot Nixon in as a DH since he can at least hit Boston's pitching. Pronk has been horrible and seems to be in a major playoff slump. 
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Hafner is really tickin me off. He needs to get his bat going soon.
I don't want to get ahead and talk about what will happen with him if we reach the WS......save for later threads.
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In the 5th inning (I believe) when Lofton got in to a shouting match with Beckett, I knew we were going to lose.. Reason was that it was pretty darn clear that Beckett got inside the Indians head... Lofton never goes off like that.. Beckett had us and every one of our players and fans knew it..
Sure it wasnt the other way around, Lofton was tring to get into Becketts head, get him out of his rythem, shake him up alittle bit, ..I'm just asking that what it looked like to me a little of both, Lofton was frustrated and was hoping to shake him up alittle bit... 
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my thoughts on the game:
beckett was unbelievable, he's a whiny cry baby for complaining about lofton, but he's still a great big-time pitcher, it's a good thing we will not see him again this year.
people are pounding on cc, and i understand, he was good, but he was not great, he could not match up with josh beckett, but right now, how many can?
if we don't pull it out tomorrow, do you choose to flip the byrd on sunday? i know jake westbrook was good the other night, but i think it would be in the tribe's best interest to put the guy on the mound who has been near-flawless in 2 starts... and he has already proven himself to be worthy of pitching in an elimination/pressure type game, i'd go with byrd myself.
what's wrong with rafael perez?
what's wrong with travis hafner?
to be honest, i'm not really worried about this team though, they're different then these 90's teams, i've been saying it all year, they're grinders, they don't worry about what happened, they worry about what's next... this team isn't afraid, and give josh beckett credit, because the tribe had a few rallies in there when they could have broken the game open
i thought the double play in the first inning last night kind of did us in.. we had beckett against the ropes AND WE LET HIM OFF THE HOOK (lolz)
the tribe jumped on schilling in game 2, and i think they can do it again, i know espn and everyone else will be saying how this is the start of a comeback and it's 2004 and schilling is the guy you want out there, but honestly i think our bats can hit him for runs, and hopefully fausto can be the fausto that faced the yankees and was downright unhittable for 9 innings...
and i will be going to my hockey game on saturday night, why is this important? because last time i had a game was the night we clinched at yankee stadium, coincidence? we'll see...
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To me Hafner looks like he's in a funk....He's guessing Fastball and he's getting a curve, He guesses curve and he gets a change up, He's going after low balls way to much which means he's looking to drive the ball out of the park every at bat, Pitches in the stike zone he's letting go bye...He's letting the pitcher pitch to him instead of making the pitcher pitch to him, he's off balance and unsure of himself which slows down the bat. The only way to get out of this is to play, sitting wont do any good .
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We need a fast start against Shilling... just like we did against the Yankees after we lost, in the next game Sizemore comes out and leads off with a homefun... we need that a similar confidence statement in game 6 at Fenway.
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I still go with Westbrook but I have Byrd ready in the pen just in case.
No way I go back to Sabathia.
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In the 5th inning (I believe) when Lofton got in to a shouting match with Beckett, I knew we were going to lose.. Reason was that it was pretty darn clear that Beckett got inside the Indians head... Lofton never goes off like that.. Beckett had us and every one of our players and fans knew it..
Sure it wasnt the other way around, Lofton was tring to get into Becketts head, get him out of his rythem, shake him up alittle bit, ..I'm just asking that what it looked like to me a little of both, Lofton was frustrated and was hoping to shake him up alittle bit...
I thought that as well, I took it moer as Kenny trying to get him out of rythem since we couldnt touch him.
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i thought the double play in the first inning last night kind of did us in.. we had beckett against the ropes AND WE LET HIM OFF THE HOOK (lolz)
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Should we crown his ass?
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he was good, but he was not great
Man, I dont see how he was even good?
I still love the guy, but he struggled to get through 6. I was upset when I saw him coming out of the dugout in the 7th, couldnt believe Wedge was letting him come back out, he was already over 100 pitches and obviously was struggling again, even if the inning before was a quick one.
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Man, I dont see how he was even good?
I still love the guy, but he struggled to get through 6. I was upset when I saw him coming out of the dugout in the 7th, couldnt believe Wedge was letting him come back out, he was already over 100 pitches and obviously was struggling again, even if the inning before was a quick one.
Me too...I wanted to throw something when I saw him go back out there.
He struggled through 6, let him be and let him have his confidence. Don't send him back out there to make a fool of himself. Wedge may have rattled him further if this comes down to him going out there game 7.
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Through 6 innings, his stats were comparable to Beckett's outside of pitch count. He gave up only 3 more hits than Beckett and I think only one more walk and one more run. The strikeout numbers were similar as well.
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Well, they were who they thought they were!
I want the Cleveland Browns to be my pallbearers so they can let me down for the last time.
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Sure it wasnt the other way around, Lofton was tring to get into Becketts head,
I'm pretty sure it wasn't that way,.., After Kenny hit the ball, Beckett started jawing at him as he trotted to first.. Beckett started it.
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Sure it wasnt the other way around, Lofton was tring to get into Becketts head, get him out of his rythem, shake him up alittle bit, ..
Beckett started the whole thing with yelling ummmmm giving Kenny the "verbal finger" After that I wanted somebody hit a line drive off of Beckets face.
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Actually Lofton started it by dropping the bat and starting for first after a pitch which was right over the heart of the plate....
Beckett's strike zone was pretty big to begin with so it was an obvious strike...
If it had been anybody but Lofton I might accept that it was a mistake but after watching what he did to Dice-K, I believe he did it on purpose....
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I don't think the tribe has much to worry about. There's no way Boston's going to lose 4 straight to anybody, let alone with Beckett on the mound. Fausto's well rested, Hafner and Sizemore are due to have a good game at the plate and the pressure to win at home is no longer an issue.
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Opinion: Say what you will , our boy CC. had a rough go of it last night ( big time ) . I was shocked ( shouldn't have been ) when Wedge sent him back out in the seventh.
Perez also has been Mr. Shaky in the post season , for all to watch .
When your DH ( the team hitter ) is batting 200 for the series , and you keep him in the third spot .
when you your right field position is getting you a batting average of 100
You are lucky to still be in the race !
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Kenny has been doing that his whole career. He was the one that looked bad when he did it, not Buckethead. Hell Buckethead should have been laughing at him, not screaming WTF bombs.
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Through 6 innings, his stats were comparable to Beckett's outside of pitch count. He gave up only 3 more hits than Beckett and I think only one more walk and one more run. The strikeout numbers were similar as well.
So after the 6th inning, did you feel that Sabathia and Beckett were having similar outings? 
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No, but Sabathia was the absolute, putrid peice of garbage that some people are making him out to be. 
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No, but Sabathia was the absolute, putrid peice of garbage that some people are making him out to be.
Did you forget your contraction again or are you as nutty as some of your Tribe friends? 
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C.C. Let me down I was expecting a big game from him.
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There is always good pitchers that struggle against certain teams and good teams that struggle against certain pitchers.
CC just isn't a good match up against Boston.
Boston hits lefties very well and are also a good fastball hitting team.
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Both the Yankees and Red Sox have been throwing Hafner a first pitch fastball strike nearly every at bat. He takes the first pitch so much that they aren't even scared to do it. After he gets down 0-1, they toss breaking balls that come low and inside and he swings at all of them. In previous years, he never swung at that garbage. He needs to look for that first pitch fastball and smoke it. If he gets down in the count, he needs to just try and get a hit instead of swinging for the fences. He's killing me!
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No, but Sabathia was the absolute, putrid peice of garbage that some people are making him out to be.
Did you forget your contraction again or are you as nutty as some of your Tribe friends?
They don't teach contractions in Idaho, he has a steep learning curve ahead of him.
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Did you forget your contraction again or are you as nutty as some of your Tribe friends?
Man, I'm bad! Usually I catch that, edit the post and fix it ... but I posted and ran off to lunch without looking.
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Actually Lofton started it by dropping the bat and starting for first after a pitch which was right over the heart of the plate....
Oh come on,, Lofton thought it was a ball and dropped his bat like he does everytime he walks,, nothing special,,
Now, that may have set Beckett off, but then that's pretty childish if that's what happened
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Now, that may have set Beckett off, but then that's pretty childish if that's what happened
There's actually a history between the two going back to when KL was with the Cubs and Beckett in FLA. Same issue of the bat drop after a walk.
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Man, I dont see how he was even good?
I still love the guy, but he struggled to get through 6. I was upset when I saw him coming out of the dugout in the 7th, couldnt believe Wedge was letting him come back out, he was already over 100 pitches and obviously was struggling again, even if the inning before was a quick one.
i agree that he should not have been out there in the 7th... with the game still somewhat winnable, i was shocked... it's one of the few managerial mistakes that eric wedge has made this year...
but i say cc was good, because if the tribe puts up a few runs, and the bullpen doesn't melt down, then we are all sitting here talking about a tribe victory, and how cc "was not great, but battled" and we're revering it...
but it's not what happened, he went up against an elite pitcher, and kept us in the game...
and, in my opinion, barring a blowout, i don't think we can use rafael perez in this series anymore... you just have to find a way to make due without him, and hopefully, if we do move on, guys like him, and cc sabathia have better success against the rockies...
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i agree that he should not have been out there in the 7th... with the game still somewhat winnable, i was shocked... it's one of the few managerial mistakes that eric wedge has made this year...
Over 100 pitches, clearly not on his game, without the lead...
I really didn't understand Wedge there either.
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I'm a Red Sox fan so I probably shouldn't be posting on this thread lol. But, I've seen alot of Indian fans worried about the series going back to Boston. Don't be worried. Cleveland will finish us off in 6, I think. I hope I'm wrong, but I just don't trust Schilling anymore. It's time for him to hang it up. If we can somehow pull out game 6, it will be because we put up alot of runs, and I don't see that happening against Carmona.
But, let's say we pull out Game 6. Then we throw Dice-K in a situation unlike any he's ever been in before. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see us being able to pull out this series.
On another note, I saw where someone mentioned the Cy Young. Josh Beckett should be the Cy Young winner. He is just better than everyone else lol.
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No offense Rogue,,, But what's he supposed to do with the bat after ball four?
If there was bad blood back then for the same reason, all I can say is, it was stupid then and it was stupid last night... What can I say....
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Hope you're right.... I don't want it to go 7... Boston is just too good offensively...
and I agree with you on Becket... I LOVE Cleveland, but Josh has been lights out.
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