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I was very optimistic after a great rookie season for Baker.
We all know what happened after.

KS is the man. His staff is excellent. And his game plan is great.
Not surprising to see our best QB play under what has to be our best coach since '99.

The one aspect of Bakers game that I have noticed lately is the utilization of the pump fake. Big Ben uses it better than anyone. Obviously the OL has to give a QB enough time, but I have seen Bake pump fake on roll outs.

I told my friend I would give Bake & KS 10 games before I would say anything about where Baker is in his development. Baker is where he needs to be and will continue to get better.

Herbert did it in less games than Baker. Which is quite impressive

Eh... well Herbert has done it with 968 snaps. Baker only had 906 his rookie season. If we're splitting hairs...

device, you've called this since day 1.

I may have disagreed at times, but your unwavering faith and confidence in Baker was sometimes the only thing that gave me hope.

Kudos, my friend. Take a bow. You deserve it.

Baker did it on a team that went 1-31 the two seasons before he was drafted...and did not get ONE snap with the 1's in pre-season OR in practice before being thrust into the primetime spotlight on a glorious Thursday night...with Hue J as his head coach. Nothing will ever beat that record.

Note: I've been quite impressed with Herbert...he's legit IMO. He will be the best in his draft class because Burrow has a very average arm. Chargers go from a hundred years with Rivers to a terrific looking rookie...makes me want to hate them.

Herbert looks very good. I think Burrows looks special too - no matter his arm strength, he reads the flow of play and is very accurate with a quick release. Both going to be good in the NFL for many years.

I wanted to post a gif of a bandwagon ... can't find a source for them that jives with the 'enter image' format we have here ... oh well.

Tua's doing pretty good as well.

The two previous years of Browns' football were an epic dumpster fire. No QB, I don't care who they are, could have done much with that hot mess. I find it refreshing that Mayfield survived it at all. Good teams don't draft first.

Chris Berman's crack about the "Tua point conversion" was the first time he made me chuckle in about 30yrs.

The Carlos "run and Hyde" was good too.

Bet they regret passing on Herbert though.

Left handed Alex Smith?

At best...IMO

At this point Baker is better than Tua.

The Rams victory looked decent at the time, until the Jets took them out.
Outside of that, they beat the Cardinals with a 4th quarter field goal. The Cardinals are a Hail Mary away from being a .500 club.

He's a noodle-arm scrub that can't handle pressure.

And locks in only on his first read!

Probably has small hands, also.

Small hands that smell like cabbage, no less.

Yea but he doesn't have any tattoos and we all know that successful QBs don't have tattoos.

Well, he does have a gap between his two front teeth so, that makes him less aerodynamic. We all know that only running QB's that are aerodynamic can be successful in the NFL.

j/c:

As far as this board is concerned, Baker Mayfield plants a flag in the ground after beating Ohio State.....Mayfield haters say, He's:

- Inaccurate
- A poor teammate
- Is the reason Hue and Freddie got fired
- Focuses only on the first read
- Hangs in the pocket for 10 seconds and can't see the WRs because he....
- ....Is too short
- A locker room cancer
- Needs to stop doing commercials and focus on football
- Eats at The Cheesecake Factory too much
- Probably responsible for Covid.

You guys are really missing the real reason.

If you've noticed, all of Baker's current commercials are re-runs.

He's not spending 24/7 making commercials, and now he's playing well...

We have to make sure he's never in a commercial again!

HE TURNED ME INTO A NEWT!!


...I got better...

Wasn't long ago on this board I read Baker was the 4th best QB in the AFC North.

I don't know man, 2 1/2 months seems like such a long time ago.

Thought it was the Honeymoon Jinx. Seems to have gotten over it.

Go ahead! Make me cheer! Has been the hot, small, cabbagey(?) hand. Really liking the lad!

Go, Browns!

Against a team who really stopped our running game.

Though a lot of talking heads are still pointing to the fact that Bradberry was out in the secondary.

Meanwhile in Cleveland...Ward has been out until last week, Greedy and Delpit have been out since forever and Harrison is still out... it's cool.

Anyone have any news on Harrison returning soon, btw? Or is it a post season sort of thing?

Harrison is back practicing and is on schedule to play this week. Not sure if he will but he can.

Bradbury was out but considering Baker hit 8 different receivers it didn’t matter much IMO

When Jackson played "well" against us, there was no mention of Ward being out. The first thing people say about the Giants game is Bradberry was out. Baker is the most hated guy in sports. Every week it's a new argument where they've moved the goalposts.

ever listen to marcellus wiley...dude is a black colin cowherd

That's fine. Haters are gonna hate; especially on talk shows... it gives them something to talk about, and something controversial to keep people spun up and talking about the show.

I was starting to ? Baker a bit too but I did always say that this is his 4th HC and the 3rd O system he's had to learn. I said we should be patient with him and see how he is at the end of the season. Well, I guess he's improved and there is room to get even better!!!

I agree. I started to see a lot of Jay Cutler in Baker where he would go on stretches where I was like "Wow, this guy is really good" and then he would do some of the most boneheaded stuff I've ever seen like trying to rely on his arm strength to throw it through 3 defenders or running around and throwing a jump ball into the air for no apparent reason. You could see that the talent was there but it was like he couldn't get out of his own way. He seems to be much more comfortable relying on the running game, letting the game come to him, not panicking when we get behind, taking what the defense gives him, going through his reads..

And yes, I think it's safe to say he hasn't hit his ceiling yet.

Oh no.

Against the Giants I thought, “Baker looks like Jay Cutler when he was good.”

Jay Cutler when he was good was very good. Let’s hope Baker can sustain his play.