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I saw the Bet, for the Browns to miss the playoffs was +1080. Since I think the Browns are going to miss,  what would a $100. bet get me? I don't bet on sports. You're a flipping tool dude. Unreal.
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This game has a simple formula.
Don't beat yourself.
No turnovers. Limit mistakes. Play our game.
Long sustained drives. Basically repeat the Giants game.
Be efficient on offense.
Don't give up big plays on defense.
We are 10-4 for many reasons. One is beating teams like the Jets.
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Agreed Bone. Good assessment of what we need to do. Also MERRY CHRISTMAS to all!!!
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Yes.
Merry Christmas to all.
It is wonderful to be where the Browns are right now.
A true delight to be 10-4.
Kind of surreal after all the years of pain.
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This game has a simple formula.
Don't beat yourself.
No turnovers. Limit mistakes. Play our game.
Long sustained drives. Basically repeat the Giants game.
Be efficient on offense.
Don't give up big plays on defense.
We are 10-4 for many reasons. One is beating teams like the Jets.
and you mention another reason: we have dramatically cut down on the number of ways we have historically beaten ourselves. Merry Christmas, all!
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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This is a different team.
Kevin Stefanski has changed the culture. Players have bought into 1-0. Total focus on preparation and execution for this game.
Teams change a lot in roster. But coaching is about preparing your team to win. Give players the best way to play to their strengths.
So apparent this season. Kevin has done wonders in how to approach the game this week. Mental mistakes have been greatly reduced. Unforced errors and dumb penalties are way down.
I see no let up. They will come to NYC ready to play.
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It's a different team because you now have stability and competence with your coaching and front office. It all starts at the top whether it's a sports organization or private sector. If you have competent people running things the success will flow down. If you don't you have what we've had since 1999. I've seen this all my working life.
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Outside of the Raiders game, we've won every one that we were favored in. No reason to think we won't take this one.
And into the forest I go, to lose my mind and find my soul.
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The Giant game was a thing of beauty.
The only reason we didn't score more was because we had limited possessions. The game burned clock.
Our execution was crazy good.
If we can put that type of performance into a bottle and open it on Sundays. We will win many games.
I like were we are. We are playing our best at the right time.
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excellent post
2 drives of 95 yards definitely limit your chances.
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I saw the Bet, for the Browns to miss the playoffs was +1080. Since I think the Browns are going to miss, what would a $100. bet get me? I don't bet on sports. You're a flipping tool dude. Unreal.  If the Browns had beaten Balt. they'd already have clinched.
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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If the Browns had beaten Balt. they'd already have clinched.
and at this moment, I'd like to quote Kenard Lang: "If IF's and BUT's were candy and nuts, every day would be Christmas."
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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Outside of the Raiders game, we've won every one that we were favored in. No reason to think we won't take this one. Thats the one game I want back.
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Outside of the Raiders game, we've won every one that we were favored in. No reason to think we won't take this one. Thats the one game I want back. Yeah. Stephanski knows he shoulda run it down their throats.
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If the Browns had beaten Balt. they'd already have clinched.
and at this moment, I'd like to quote Kenard Lang: "If IF's and BUT's were candy and nuts, every day would be Christmas." Posted at noon on Christmas day. ^
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gc. A Chance at Eleven! Browns first opportunity to win 11 games in one campaign since the 01' playoff game at Pittsburgh, and winning it will be for the first time since the 1994 regular season. 
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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The one thing the Browns must pay attention to is Darnold as a runner.
We have not been been very good when qb's take off down the field.
Darnold is mobile. He will extend plays. He throws well when moving. He can be trouble.
Myles needs to bring that outside pressure.
The large problem for the Jets is the Browns offense. They may slow the run game down for a while but they will crumble over 4 quarters.
I don't think they can defend both the pass and run.
Nick Harris needs to play at least average. I am expecting Will's to play.
So, I feel safe.
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Run Run Run sprinkle in some passing. Eat the clock, game over Browns win.
Joe Thomas #73
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I keep thinking, I'm looking past the Jets!
I hope the team is not! It would be nice to just Railroad the Jets, and part of that starts with winning the turnover battle
Taking the Browns defensive line, and shoving the Jets Quarterback and backfield into a bunch of turnovers and tackles for loss!
And the Browns getting some big plays on offense!
Only 8 quarters left in the Regular season!
These last 2 games are dress rehersals for the Playoffs!
Browns need to Dominate! Put everyone on notice!
They could Clinch! It's possible they could Clinch a playoff spot, this week against the bad guys with 1 win all year
bad guys who scored the fewest points in the NFL all year!
The Game shouldn't be close, Take care of Business!
And not only that, But put a little icing on the cake, drive home the point!
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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We are down like 8 players... no Bueno
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The line adjusted and we are still favored by 7.
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Funny how so many forget not only is this a jets team that beat the rams but also came within ONE PLAY of beating a raiders team that bullied us on our own field. We now have lost all of our starting wr's along with 2 of our starting linebackers . Oh..and we are down to our 3rd string right guard and this is all before the inevitable injuries on that artificial turf tomorrow. Yet....some people think we will walk right through these guys
Jets 29
Browns 9
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Funny how so many forget not only is this a jets team that beat the rams but also came within ONE PLAY of beating a raiders team that bullied us on our own field. We now have lost all of our starting wr's along with 2 of our starting linebackers . Oh..and we are down to our 3rd string right guard and this is all before the inevitable injuries on that artificial turf tomorrow. Yet....some people think we will walk right through these guys
Jets 29
Browns 9 So does Vegas Browns still +7
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We are down like 8 players... no Bueno We'll certainly find out what we're made of. We still have 2 of the best running backs in the NFL and quarterback playing at a high level with confidence. I was already scared about this game to begin with as it feels like a classic Browns moment where we botch another golden opportunity. Now I'm freaking out, but just trying to calm myself down knowing we have a solid coaching staff. I do have confidence in Stefanski and that he can come up with a solid gameplan that can somehow pull this off. Go Browns.
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Funny how so many forget not only is this a jets team that beat the rams but also came within ONE PLAY of beating a raiders team that bullied us on our own field. We now have lost all of our starting wr's along with 2 of our starting linebackers . Oh..and we are down to our 3rd string right guard and this is all before the inevitable injuries on that artificial turf tomorrow. Yet....some people think we will walk right through these guys
Jets 29
Browns 9 So does Vegas Browns still +7 Lol pastor what that means is they want everyone to take the browns and the 7 knowing there is not much of a chance the browns will win this game
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Funny how so many forget not only is this a jets team that beat the rams but also came within ONE PLAY of beating a raiders team that bullied us on our own field. We now have lost all of our starting wr's along with 2 of our starting linebackers . Oh..and we are down to our 3rd string right guard and this is all before the inevitable injuries on that artificial turf tomorrow. Yet....some people think we will walk right through these guys
Jets 29
Browns 9 So does Vegas Browns still +7 Lol pastor what that means is they want everyone to take the browns and the 7 knowing there is not much of a chance the browns will win this game Right
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You are favored if you are - (minus) points...
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You are favored if you are - (minus) points... True what did I put +
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You are favored if you are - (minus) points... True what did I put + Where are you seeing us +7... doing a quick search I am seeing -6.5 to -10.5 for us. Not sure what has updated and what hasn't based on the situation.
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Chad Johnson has volunteered to play in tomorrow's game for us.
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This has to be unprecedented. This isn’t like missing a couple guys, you’re missing half your offense. A lot of what we do works because of the personnel. No one even going to pay any mind to those new wr, whole effort will go into stopping Chubb
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This has to be unprecedented. This isn’t like missing a couple guys, you’re missing half your offense. A lot of what we do works because of the personnel. No one even going to pay any mind to those new wr, whole effort will go into stopping Chubb So like before Baker got hot? Half our offense = four receivers (when we never have four receivers on the field) and our starting guard.
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Yeah.. half our skill players. Baker being hot has nothing to do with it. He hasn’t had to run the offense without top 4 wr (obj, Landry, higgins, dpj). Especially higgins as his safety valve. The pre motion stuff we do with Landry and higgins sets up a lot of stuff we do. Everyone down playing the impact, but we will see tomorrow
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We will see? That’s the most optimistic thing leadtheway has ever said.
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With Bryant, Njoku and Hunt and Hooper, we will have plenty guys to throw to. Missing two linebackers is worse. It is going to be the Chubb and Hunt show. Ball control and eat the clock. Plus Baker has some familiarity with Willies.
I'm worried, but the Jets stink, and they are missing some key players.
The curse is alive and well. Hopefully Kevin can fend off the evil spirits.
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There will be a boatload of TE passes to complement the running game. A 12 yard completion to a TE is the same as a 12 yard completion to a WR. We have 3 good tight ends.
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Certainly did not see this coming less than 24 hours before the game.
I am sure that from the moment that it was found out that there has been a crash course for the receivers who will play.
What is important is that the receivers run good routes. That they engage the defense. That they are able to keep good spacing on the field.
The Jets defense no matter what still has to cover the receivers who play. We will be able to still execute the offensive game plan. Blocking assignments must still happen.
My guess is KS will adjust his game plan. Try to choke the clock. Play field position. Try to possess the ball. Use the screen pass. Play for first downs. Long strikes will not be the way to go.
We will need both backs and TE's to open the field in a short possession control offense. Quick passes to get them off stuffing the line.
We will have to rely on the defense to force three and outs and get more opportunities. Each opportunity should be used to eat clock.
We can do this. But this will require a full effort.
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The only thing is that deep strike attempts will open the middle for the TE's.
My way early guess is the first pass play of the game will be a deep strike attempt. It might even be the first play of the game.
In a game with us down like this, sending the message is almost as important as the play actually working.
I am eager to see what Marvin Hall brings.
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j/c: Baker Mayfield later today......  
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Who is our deep threat? Njoku?
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