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Disgusted. Like sick to my stomach.
Knew all the BS would be on the Board.
Harris was abused. So was Lamm.
Reality. 5th, 6th,and 7th string receivers.
Harris third string guard. Lamm third string LT behind Wills and Hubbard.
Eight starters out of the game.
Hard to win with that against any team.
The last play was a mistake on KS. He should have called a timeout. The DL was not the same as when Baker went for the fourth down. They were zeroed in on the sneak.
Wrong play. Go with Hunt behind the fullback.
Or, spread them out with an empty backfield let Baker throw or run a QB draw.
We had chances but the reality was we did not have the players to execute.
Blown coverage on trips right. Joseph gets picked.
Ward blew a coverage as well.
We are a good team. But not good enough to miss that many starters.
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Welp...up to Pittsburgh to save us two weeks in a row, lol.
This one was tough, but a win next week and we are the 7 seed over the eventual 11-5 Colts.
This is not true. We need unlikely help along with a win. And we won't win. So.... Yes, it is true. A win next week guarantees at least the 7 seed over the 11-5 Colts. No "help" is needed.
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If we beat Pitts’ next week we’re in. - And I like our odds considering we’lll most likely be playing against their back ups. If we beat Pitts’ next week we’re in. - And I like our odds considering we’lll most likely be playing against their back ups. As much as I like this to be true it is not true.. we need Miami Baltimore or the Colts to lose next week with a win
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He fumbled it forwards, it hit a lineman and went backwards where Hunt grabbed it.
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Questions about competitve balance have to come up. NFL said that if something like this happened they'd add an 8th team to playoffs.. This makes a good case for that especially if we have people still out next week. Because theres no way they think we would have lost to this team at full strength. Its the NFL shoddy protocols that don't account for this
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Post game thoughts: Thank you NFL for AGAIN demonstrating your bias in making any decisions. The Browns were given ZERO days for the guys who were added YESTERDAY to practice. ZERO days. What could possibly go wrong with the loss of their LT and FOUR top WRs? Yeah, a team should be expected to just add FOUR guys off the street and compete with ZERO days of practice. Sure they should. I'm sure the RAVENS would have been asked to do that. Oh wait, their game got pushed back HOW MANY TIMES?
Screw you NFL. Screw you Goodell. I better not see one game pushed back going forward given your decision today. And I better not see the words COMPETITIVE BALANCE used in ANY excuse given for any game being pushed back. You are nothing more than cheaters and hypocrites.
Yes, the Browns had their chances today. And yes, they are probably getting run off the field in the playoffs. The point is they got CHEATED out of their chance. And that is BS.
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The Browns are losers. Seems like they always will be.
Baker had multiple opportunities to put the team on his back and deliver the first playoffs in nearly 20 years and repeatedly failed. He's the one who told the fans to adjust their expectations. He should deliver on them then.
This team gets what they deserve. You want the playoffs. Then win. It's a team game. He didn't have a running game, the pass protection was poor, penalties constantly put him in a hole, and there were way too many drops by the TEs. Plenty of blame to go around. The refs and NFL added some extra challenges. I personally did not expect the Browns to win this when I saw the news about the Covid absences.
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I think you’re over-reacting. I also don’t think the Jets are playing like the worst team in the league. You think?? LOL Of course he is. He has been like that for a few seasons now.
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Felt cute decided to put the ball on 4th down in the hands of a quarterback who runs as fast as Bernie Kosar when we have the 6th best RB in the NFL - Kevin Stefanski
QB sneaks are the most efficient play in the league. They basically always work. The QB has to hold on to the ball. Baker has now fumbled like 2 or 3 times doing this. He should not have the ball when the game is on the line. Side note... the ball was fumbled backwards. We should have been allowed to advance it. 97% sure anyway I thought the same thing, I only thought that rule was put in place because of the holy roller. Puzzled.
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Felt cute decided to put the ball on 4th down in the hands of a quarterback who runs as fast as Bernie Kosar when we have the 6th best RB in the NFL - Kevin Stefanski
QB sneaks are the most efficient play in the league. They basically always work. The QB has to hold on to the ball. Baker has now fumbled like 2 or 3 times doing this. He should not have the ball when the game is on the line. Side note... the ball was fumbled backwards. We should have been allowed to advance it. 97% sure anyway Since it was 4th down I think only the person who fumbled it can recover it.
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If we beat Pitts’ next week we’re in. - And I like our odds considering we’lll most likely be playing against their back ups. If we beat Pitts’ next week we’re in. - And I like our odds considering we’lll most likely be playing against their back ups. As much as I like this to be true it is not true.. we need Miami Baltimore or the Colts to lose next week with a win Okay I was wrong! All we have to do is win I'll take that. We will win if we get our receivers back and maybe one offensive lineman. We can do that
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At the end of the day our offense wet the bed. We had our chances to make plays and get the lead but didn’t.
3 fumbles is 3 fumbles.
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Felt cute decided to put the ball on 4th down in the hands of a quarterback who runs as fast as Bernie Kosar when we have the 6th best RB in the NFL - Kevin Stefanski
QB sneaks are the most efficient play in the league. They basically always work. The QB has to hold on to the ball. Baker has now fumbled like 2 or 3 times doing this. He should not have the ball when the game is on the line. Side note... the ball was fumbled backwards. We should have been allowed to advance it. 97% sure anyway Since it was 4th down I think only the person who fumbled it can recover it. ding ding ding...this was even said by announcers, as soon as baker fumbled, if he doesn't recover, regardless who does, it goes back to the spot of the fumble, which we were short of Line to gain
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Beating the Steelers next week will guarantee a playoff spot! No, it does not. I was just saying the same thing. I think they may be right I just ran it in the nfl website and it may be true
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Beating the Steelers next week will guarantee a playoff spot! No, it does not. yes it does. Although we lost to the Jets today we are in the 7th spot. If the season ended today we are in. Indy lost today and are 10-5. If we win and they win next week we will both be 11-5 and we win the tie breaker because we beat them. If we lose and they win next week we are out.
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Reality. 5th, 6th,and 7th string receivers. + No reps with Baker clearly.
Harris third string guard. Lamm third string LT behind Wills and Hubbard. + And a liability in pass protection and zero ability to create running lanes.
Eight starters out of the game.
And Myles Garrett clearly still struggling from Covid and playing at maybe 75% of himself.
The last play was a mistake on KS. He should have called a timeout.
Agree and added a couple things. The D has been bad all year. Giving up those big TDs on D today with blown coverage was awful .... I could understand or forgive those wide open recievers if we were blitzing the snot out of Darnold ... but we weren't. 10-5 and a winning season despite all the obstacles. No need to panic. 10-5 with a chance to secure a playoff birth with a win over the Steelers. No need to panic. 10-5 with Baker having improved in so many areas over the course of the season. No need to panic on the back of a game with 8 starters out - 6 of them on offense.
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I think, at least I'm glad
they won't be at that, first howard stern movie word, vacuuming word, stadium next week.
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At the end of the day our offense wet the bed. We had our chances to make plays and get the lead but didn’t.
3 fumbles is 3 fumbles. This. Losers are going to lose. Mayfield told the fans to adjust their expectations. He said for the first time he's not making off season plans after game 16 (seems comical he would say that now; what an idiot for assuming they would make the playoffs). And then didn't deliver. Losers lose. The whole team is full of them.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Berry has his work cutout for him. Not alot of keepers on defense. Baker still has to prove he can bring the team along. Just saying that you give Tom brady the same oline and same weapons baker had today and he puts up 30+ on them. Its just the ability to hit a moving target mentally to know that what you've done before isn't going to work now and how to adjust your approach where do you get this stuff?! All of our receivers were down with practice squad receivers activated yesterday with no practice.. missing two offensive linemen and you think Brady would have done better!!!
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Losers lose. The whole team is full of them.
Man - only in Cleveland.
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Berry has his work cutout for him. Not alot of keepers on defense. Baker still has to prove he can bring the team along. Just saying that you give Tom brady the same oline and same weapons baker had today and he puts up 30+ on them. Its just the ability to hit a moving target mentally to know that what you've done before isn't going to work now and how to adjust your approach where do you get this stuff?! All of our receivers were down with practice squad receivers activated yesterday with no practice.. missing two offensive linemen and you think Brady would have done better!!! Have you not watched brady last 20 years.. he has done better.
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At the end of the day our offense wet the bed. We had our chances to make plays and get the lead but didn’t.
3 fumbles is 3 fumbles. This. Losers are going to lose. Mayfield told the fans to adjust their expectations. He said for the first time he's not making off season plans after game 16 (seems comical he would say that now; what an idiot for assuming they would make the playoffs). And then didn't deliver. Losers lose. The whole team is full of them. Why do you root for this team 
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He fumbled it forwards, it hit a lineman and went backwards where Hunt grabbed it. I watched it again. I see the ball only go backwards. I don't know what caused it to come out, it looks like nobody touched the ball, he just lost control of it and it squirted backwards. I don't think the rules of the NFL really have a way to distinguish whether that should be considered a lateral or a fumble.
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if it was 1, 2, or 3rd down then play would have stood with hunt advancing.. it was 4th under 2 minutes..different rules
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At the end of the day our offense wet the bed. We had our chances to make plays and get the lead but didn’t.
3 fumbles is 3 fumbles. This. Losers are going to lose. Mayfield told the fans to adjust their expectations. He said for the first time he's not making off season plans after game 16 (seems comical he would say that now; what an idiot for assuming they would make the playoffs). And then didn't deliver. Losers lose. The whole team is full of them. LOL
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At the end of the day our offense wet the bed. We had our chances to make plays and get the lead but didn’t.
3 fumbles is 3 fumbles. This. Losers are going to lose. Mayfield told the fans to adjust their expectations. He said for the first time he's not making off season plans after game 16 (seems comical he would say that now; what an idiot for assuming they would make the playoffs). And then didn't deliver. Losers lose. The whole team is full of them. Why do you root for this team Do you enjoy moral victories? I don’t. We got dealt a crappy hand today. We had the perfect counter. We got the worst team in the league. If you're going to get dealt a crappy hand, that's a nice situation to be in. The QB told the fans they need to start adjusting our expectations and expect better, then crapped the bed. What am I supposed to be rooting for?
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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The Browns are losers. Seems like they always will be.
Baker had multiple opportunities to put the team on his back and deliver the first playoffs in nearly 20 years and repeatedly failed. He's the one who told the fans to adjust their expectations. He should deliver on them then.
This team gets what they deserve. You want the playoffs. Then win. There has been tremendous improvement. They are not losers. They've won 10 games and are still in the hunt. Improve the LB core and we should be SB contenders next season. I call on this. Brady has looked awful under pressure this year. Today, he would have been under pressure. Look, the situation wasn't ideal, we laid a collective egg. However, to ignore the strides made is foolish. We need to keep building though. 1-0. 1-0.
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At the end of the day our offense wet the bed. We had our chances to make plays and get the lead but didn’t.
3 fumbles is 3 fumbles. This. Losers are going to lose. Mayfield told the fans to adjust their expectations. He said for the first time he's not making off season plans after game 16 (seems comical he would say that now; what an idiot for assuming they would make the playoffs). And then didn't deliver. Losers lose. The whole team is full of them. Why do you root for this team Do you enjoy moral victories? I don’t. We got dealt a crappy hand today. We had the perfect counter. We got the worst team in the league. If you're going to get dealt a crappy hand, that's a nice situation to be in. The QB told the fans they need to start adjusting our expectations and expect better, then crapped the bed. What am I supposed to be rooting for? 2nd worst team. Jags are the worst.
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Felt cute decided to put the ball on 4th down in the hands of a quarterback who runs as fast as Bernie Kosar when we have the 6th best RB in the NFL - Kevin Stefanski
QB sneaks are the most efficient play in the league. They basically always work. The QB has to hold on to the ball. The problem is, given our penchant for analytics, that this has happened to Baker more than once. The safe play would be hand it off and if they had stuffed that you'd say why didn't they sneak it!
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do we get automatically if we win next week?
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No need to feel bad. You started this type of thread. Others seem to be in a hurry to get it posted for you.
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Welp...up to Pittsburgh to save us two weeks in a row, lol.
This one was tough, but a win next week and we are the 7 seed over the eventual 11-5 Colts.
This is not true. We need unlikely help along with a win. And we won't win. So.... all we have to do is win. Use the NFL playoffs website. We are the 7th seed with a win
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The Browns are losers. Seems like they always will be.
Baker had multiple opportunities to put the team on his back and deliver the first playoffs in nearly 20 years and repeatedly failed. He's the one who told the fans to adjust their expectations. He should deliver on them then.
This team gets what they deserve. You want the playoffs. Then win. There has been tremendous improvement. They are not losers. They've won 10 games and are still in the hunt. Improve the LB core and we should be SB contenders next season. I call on this. Brady has looked awful under pressure this year. Today, he would have been under pressure. Look, the situation wasn't ideal, we laid a collective egg. However, to ignore the strides made is foolish. We need to keep building though. 1-0. 1-0. Yet at 43 years old he set TB team records for TD's thrown in season, has his team clinched a playoff spot and setting team records on offense..at 43..
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I’m seeing conflicting reports about next week.
If we win are we in?
Or do we need help?
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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do we get automatically if we win next week? Yes
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At the end of the day our offense wet the bed. We had our chances to make plays and get the lead but didn’t.
3 fumbles is 3 fumbles. This. Losers are going to lose. Mayfield told the fans to adjust their expectations. He said for the first time he's not making off season plans after game 16 (seems comical he would say that now; what an idiot for assuming they would make the playoffs). And then didn't deliver. Losers lose. The whole team is full of them. Why do you root for this team he's in his feelings (as many are after this game).
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Every time Baker tries to sneak the ball he fumbles.
DBs and LBs suck. That reminds me of the Browns a couple of years ago.
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I’m seeing conflicting reports about next week.
If we win are we in?
Or do we need help? If we win we’re in. If we lose we need help
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The Browns are losers. Seems like they always will be.
Baker had multiple opportunities to put the team on his back and deliver the first playoffs in nearly 20 years and repeatedly failed. He's the one who told the fans to adjust their expectations. He should deliver on them then.
This team gets what they deserve. You want the playoffs. Then win. There has been tremendous improvement. They are not losers. They've won 10 games and are still in the hunt. Improve the LB core and we should be SB contenders next season. I call on this. Brady has looked awful under pressure this year. Today, he would have been under pressure. Look, the situation wasn't ideal, we laid a collective egg. However, to ignore the strides made is foolish. We need to keep building though. 1-0. 1-0. Yet at 43 years old he set TB team records for TD's thrown in season, has his team clinched a playoff spot and setting team records on offense..at 43.. You choose to ignore my point I will respectfully ignore yours. We are all here to see the Browns win.
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I’m seeing conflicting reports about next week.
If we win are we in?
Or do we need help? Yes, if we win we are in and don't need help.
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