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Is that circle A for antifa?


No. That's the "Anarchy" symbol.


It is the symbol Antifa uses constantly. And they are about anarchy, whether it's left or right leaning politics- they want to blow the whole thing up. It's just that the left appeases them....Or maybe a better term is tolerates them. They are votes. It's akin to Trump not denouncing the white supremacy leader back in 2016 election. They are votes.


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Pelosi, McConnell homes vandalized after Congress adjourns without securing $2,000 stimulus checks



https://www.yahoo.com/news/pelosi-mcconnell-homes-vandalized-congress-184831396.html


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I didn't post the whole article. To be honest, I didn't read it. But looks like both party leaders have the same issues


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Same question here: Why doesn't McConnel have some sort of security system, with camera's?

I mean, c'mon - Pelosi and McConnel have no security at their homes???? I struggle to believe that is true.

Any idea what it costs to have camera's outside your home? It's cheap, relatively speaking, especially for millionaires that are involved in gov't.

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I just hope it stops at minor vandalism... There are a lot of POed Americans out there and a ton of crazies on both sides. There are also plans for $600 DIY guillotines being shared on social media. At first I thought the $600 bit was a joke, but it was the actual estimated cost and ironically the same amount as the downward negotiated stimulus.

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I don't believe being able to spell and knowing how to make a dollar sign means you are of moderate intelligence. wink


yeah... but 2 mis-spellings on the same tableau almost always tell you which direction to look.

sorry- just had to.


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Youre overreacting to stupid inflammatory tweets on the internet.

But I guess that is par for the course because youre triggered so easily.


One of your own Trump sycophants suggesting violence.

You may, if you wish, dismiss all the suggestions and overt actions of Proud Boys, KKK, White Surpreacists all you want. Bottom line, all any of us are doing is just listening to their words and looking at their actions for clues to what's next.

https://www.businessinsider.com/proud-boys-attend-january-6-dc-rally-incognito-all-black-2021-1

A little defination of Proud Boys for you to look at

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proud_Boys

Here is more info on just the Proud Boys..

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/proud-boys

Don't tell me or anyone else that Trump isn't behind this nonsense.. Or at least the Love of Trump....

The fear is real.... The proof is out there if you are willing to listen and read it.

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https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2021-01-02/gohmert-pence-biden-win

Trump of Cult are disgusting and dangerous ... I can't even imagine the reaction if it was a Dem that said this. Remove this human POS from office.


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Trump 'diehards' threatening to 'kill all the D.C. traitors' on day of the president's rally
"Trump diehards from across the country have organized their travel to Washington on 'The Donald' forum," the Beast's report states. "One of the hottest topics on the site is how protesters can bring guns to D.C., which would count as a local crime in nearly all circumstances under Washington's strict gun laws. Others have talked about breaking into federal buildings or committing violence against law enforcement officers who try to stop them from storming Congress."
One comment that received approving nods stated, "I'm thinking it will be literal war on that day. Where we'll storm offices and physically remove and even kill all the D.C. traitors and reclaim the country."
The report notes that noted Trump supporter Proud Boy Joe Biggs, boasted on Parler, "Watch out, January 6--you ain't gonna know who the f*ck it is standing beside you."
The Beast also reports that Trump fans are discussing dressing up as Antifa protesters so the anti-fascist group will be blamed for any violence.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-inciting-violence-2649717814/

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typical trump crap .. say it... then say you didnt say it.
So your believers will hear it and believe it. Then you can say you are not responsible.


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You seem to forget that they think it's okay when they do it. They call it Patriotism.


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Like this......

Trump promises 'wild' protests in Washington, DC, on the day Congress is set to finalize election results

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-promises-wild-protests-washington-165055313.html


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If it does turn violent shouldn't trump be charged for inciting a riot.


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They will never admit it's his fault. That only applies to Democrats.


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Gohmert Suggests Street Violence After Court Tosses Electoral Suit

Representative Louie Gohmert suggested street violence as the next recourse after a federal judge in Texas threw out his lawsuit filed in an effort to overturn President Donald Trump’s election loss.

The Texas lawmaker appeared on the conservative Newsmax network Friday night after U.S. District Judge Jeremy Kernodle dismissed Gohmert’s suit, in which he argued that Vice President Mike Pence has the authority to unilaterally reverse the election result during a joint session of Congress Wednesday.

“If the bottom line is, the court is saying, ‘We’re not going to touch this. You have no remedy’ -- basically, in effect, the ruling would be that you gotta go the streets and be as violent as Antifa and BLM,” Gohmert said.

His comment referred to Antifa, a loosely-aligned movement that opposes fascism, and Black Lives Matter.

Judge Kernodle ruled that the Texas congressman hadn’t suffered a specific injury caused by any action of Pence and therefore didn’t have legal standing to sue. The judge didn’t rule on the merits of Gohmert’s argument, which would have radically reshaped a vice president’s role.

“Congressman Gohmert’s alleged injury requires a series of hypothetical -- but by no means certain -- events,” said Kernodle, appointed by Trump in 2018. “Plaintiffs presuppose what the Vice President will do on January 6” and “which electoral votes the Vice President will count or reject from contested states.”
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Gohmert argued that Pence has the power to hand Trump a second term by simply rejecting swing states’ slates of Democratic electors, and instead choosing competing GOP electors when the Senate and House meet jointly to open and count certificates of electoral votes on Jan. 6. Election experts have said such a finding would create a major conflict of interest.

Gohmert filed a notice of appeal in the case late Friday.

The U.S Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit won’t necessarily hold Gohmert’s recent comments against him when they consider the case, because judges decide cases on the law and facts alone, said Carl Tobias, a law professor at the University of Richmond.

“However, judges are human and might find it distasteful that a member of Congress who has sworn an oath to uphold the Constitution is urging violence,” Tobias said, adding that while the 5th Circuit is “clearly” the most conservative appeals court, “it is not clear what that means for this weak case.”

Gohmert, 67, is a member of the House Judiciary Committee and is a former judge.

Cruz Set to Lead Group of GOP Senators Opposing Certification

Pence as vice president has the constitutional role of presiding over the Senate, which has traditionally included overseeing the formal acceptance of the Electoral College vote, which President-elect Joe Biden won.

Pence urged the judge to reject Gohmert’s lawsuit, saying in a Thursday filing that the congressman should have sued the U.S. Senate or the House of Representatives if he disagreed with the established way that Electoral College votes were counted. Pence’s filing was made by the Justice Department.

The Dec. 27 lawsuit by Gohmert echoes Trump’s debunked claim that Biden won the election only through rampant voter fraud perpetrated by thousands of corrupt Democratic officials and election workers. Some members of Congress have signaled they will object during the joint session, though not enough to block Biden’s win.

Gohmert’s attorney Howard Kleinhendler didn’t immediately respond to a message seeking comment.

Trump continues to rail against his election loss on Twitter, repeating claims of electoral fraud that have been rejected in dozens of court actions in battleground states.

The president has also egged on his supporters to gather in Washington what he describes as a “protest rally.”

Two pro-Trump demonstrations in the nation’s capital since the election have resulted in scattered violence and arrests.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/...electoral-votes


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I’m betting trump doesn’t send out his unidentifiable storm troopers to gas and club them or walks over to the church with a borrowed Bible in hand for a photo op.


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The Speaker doesn't get SS protection. They get a detail from the Capitol Police, but evidently it doesn't extend to their home.

Federal Marshalls are also used. They protect federal courthouses and federal judges, as well as run witness protection, hunt fugitives, and generally run local task force units to cover any federal jurisdiction needs local units might require. Marshalls have a broad scope, so I would bet a few are sitting on her and Mitch's homes at this point.

In the scheme of law enforcement, Marshalls are kind of like the bad dog of the bunch.


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Hard to believe they don't have a 24/7 security detail of some sort.


They don't. They might moving forward, but at who's cost? She makes enough she can move to a gated community.


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For me, it's not the money, it's that Pelosi and McConnell are key leaders in congress. I would think that the POTUS, VP, Cabinet Secs, Congressional leadership (at least the top of each party in each the house and senate), and SCOTUS would all have 24/7 security teams. Especially as crazy as this political atmosphere has been, I would think that to be the case. I didn't realize that historically it's not something we do.

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Hard to believe they don't have a 24/7 security detail of some sort.


If those violent lunatic trump supporters had any common sense she wouldn’t need 24/7 SS protection. And why is it always who’s going to pay for it with trump supporters and conservatives? “We the people” who decide everything in elections will pay for everything, EVERY CENT! The people have spoken. We know who’s paying for it.


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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
For me, it's not the money, it's that Pelosi and McConnell are key leaders in congress. I would think that the POTUS, VP, Cabinet Secs, Congressional leadership (at least the top of each party in each the house and senate), and SCOTUS would all have 24/7 security teams. Especially as crazy as this political atmosphere has been, I would think that to be the case. I didn't realize that historically it's not something we do.


I agree that political climate might change things, sorry to say.


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I'm just one of those guys that don't like threats.. Don't take kindly to them.

Trumpians are trying to bully the win...


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Hard to believe they don't have a 24/7 security detail of some sort.


If those violent lunatic trump supporters had any common sense she wouldn’t need 24/7 SS protection. And why is it always who’s going to pay for it with trump supporters and conservatives? “We the people” who decide everything in elections will pay for everything, EVERY CENT! The people have spoken. We know who’s paying for it.


I wouldn't blame the need for 24/7 protection for the Speaker of he House on trumpians. They may have brought it to light but the Speaker of the House in 3rd in line for the Presidency. I feel regardless of which party i in power that there should be some kind of protection afforded the Speaker.


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Hard to believe they don't have a 24/7 security detail of some sort.


If those violent lunatic trump supporters had any common sense she wouldn’t need 24/7 SS protection. And why is it always who’s going to pay for it with trump supporters and conservatives? “We the people” who decide everything in elections will pay for everything, EVERY CENT! The people have spoken. We know who’s paying for it.


I wouldn't blame the need for 24/7 protection for the Speaker of he House on trumpians. They may have brought it to light but the Speaker of the House in 3rd in line for the Presidency. I feel regardless of which party i in power that there should be some kind of protection afforded the Speaker.


Absolutely. Here is the really odd thing. Pelosi wants to give out $2k...It's not her holding it up... It's McConnell.

So honestly, I don't understand why anyone that wants that money would attack her.. Unless they are Trump supporters trying to lay blame on her... Just like Trump does.


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Hard to believe they don't have a 24/7 security detail of some sort.


If those violent lunatic trump supporters had any common sense she wouldn’t need 24/7 SS protection. And why is it always who’s going to pay for it with trump supporters and conservatives? “We the people” who decide everything in elections will pay for everything, EVERY CENT! The people have spoken. We know who’s paying for it.


I wouldn't blame the need for 24/7 protection for the Speaker of he House on trumpians. They may have brought it to light but the Speaker of the House in 3rd in line for the Presidency. I feel regardless of which party i in power that there should be some kind of protection afforded the Speaker.


I agree.

Guess what happened last night around here? My neighbor's house got broken into.

Luckily, they have a security system, with motion detectors in their home. The wife doesn't work. Just the husband.

Alarm went off, video was automatically taken, wife screamed and called 911 while the husband got a gun.

Dude took off headed south - towards me. 3 police departments searched for the guy. (2 different county sheriff's, and 1 local p.d. - now, for a 911 call, remember, cops could be miles away at the time - around here anyway)

I am currently looking into a security system for us. With cams. And, just like the guy that got broken into, we're just peons, not some uber wealthy, or even wealthy, people. We are not in politics, we are not 3rd in line to the presidency. Just normal old Joe's.

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And yet we still have no idea if they had security cameras or not.


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And yet we still have no idea if they had security cameras or not.


Correct.

If a peon like me can afford a security system with camera's, so can Pelosi, and McConnell.

And that takes me back to my original question, and obviously ocd's insinuation of these being, possibly, set ups.

Not a damn thing would surprise me anymore.

I don't know how McConnell's house is set up, but it appears to me Pelosi's garage door is pretty much right on a street. No camera's for the Speaker of the House, worth millions?

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I'm pretty sure that they both have security cameras. My belief is either they have photos of the suspects or that they were wearing masks so that the photos are of no value.

And trying to come up with some conspiracy theory as to who is responsible is a fools errand. I mean if you follow along with OCD's posts, he hates them both. So for all we know it could be the same person. wink


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And yet we still have no idea if they had security cameras or not.


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I'm pretty sure that they both have security cameras. My belief is either they have photos of the suspects or that they were wearing masks so that the photos are of no value.


So, what are you saying?

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I'm saying this is my guess. It's a pure guess and conjecture. It's the most logical conclusion I believe someone could come to. You even gave examples as to why that is a logical conclusion.


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Man, that's awful! Did the dude do something like break a window and run, or was he actually inside the house?


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Man, that's awful! Did the dude do something like break a window and run, or was he actually inside the house?


He was in the house. INSIDE.

From the pictures taken from the video, young white guy.

Other neighbors reported their outside dogs going ballistic 30 minutes or so prior to the break in.

Possibly/probably because he was walking by.

We're rural, obviously.

While the police can take a bit to get here, in this case, with an intruder in the house, 3 departments showed up as soon as they could. They apparently respond much quicker if someone is in the house.

Dude was gone though. Reports of a person walking along the road not far from their house prior.

He'll get caught.

Most around here have dogs - not all, by any stretch. Best thing a dog can do is alert the owners that something isn't right. Alarm systems work also, but in this case, the guy was already in the home.

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Man, that sucks. Hope they're doing okay (mentally/emotionally).


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
I'm pretty sure that they both have security cameras. My belief is either they have photos of the suspects or that they were wearing masks so that the photos are of no value.

And trying to come up with some conspiracy theory as to who is responsible is a fools errand. I mean if you follow along with OCD's posts, he hates them both. So for all we know it could be the same person. wink


Conspiracy theory was never a real term until after President Kennedy was bumped off.

I think many times writing off something and calling it a conspiracy theory is simply a means to deflect from the truth, or somewhere closer to the truth.

This isn't a reflection on you, it's just a comment about the status of the times we now reside.


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The times we reside in? OK. So while the radical left watches on, trump supporters and his facists po boys riot in the streets and clash against police. The radical left look on as trump and his GOP cronies in the senate try to continually overturn an election they lost by a landslide. The radical left watch’s a run off election in Georgia while the GOP buckle with yet another election defeat and still say there is a path to victory. And the radical left goes Uh Huh rigggghht.


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Trump and his most ardent supporters deserve their own kingdom of rubber rooms and padded walls so they can live out their fantasies in a way that is safe to greater society. It would be a good time to initiate the new dual reality MATRIX... smh

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Today will be hard to watch IMHO. I hope there is no bloodshed in DC today. Trump supporters are getting desperate and their outrage at being "cheated" will have to be vented in some way. But with the loss of the senate last night, I think the odds of long term violence just decreased significantly.

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Today will be hard to watch IMHO. I hope there is no bloodshed in DC today. Trump supporters are getting desperate and their outrage at being "cheated" will have to be vented in some way. But with the loss of the senate last night, I think the odds of long term violence just decreased significantly.


I’m streaming Netflix all day... news at 11pm. This show will be for trump and his supporters to slobber over as if they’re on a snipe hunt going in for the kill with no prey in sight. Lol. And they say the radical left was fixated on Russia. rofl


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I don't believe there is anything on Netflix that can rival the crap show that we will see in Washington D.C today.


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