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USA TODAY
'Wild' protests: Police brace for pro-Trump rallies when Congress meets Jan. 6 to certify Biden's win

WASHINGTON – A city accustomed to mass protests is gearing up for especially intense ones over what should be the most mundane of political events: the counting of Electoral College votes during a special joint session of Congress.

At the urging of President Donald Trump, however, die-hard supporters are planning to descend on the nation's capital Jan. 6, to pressure Republican lawmakers into aligning themselves with the doomed effort to overturn Joe Biden's electoral victory.

Knife fights, shouting matches, and verbal harassment of Trump opponents accompanied previous demonstrations following Biden's election win in November. Now federal and local law enforcement are bracing for what may be the most intense Trump protest yet as Congress is poised to formally declare Biden president-elect.

Various Trump groups are promoting the demonstrations online. One called "#StopTheSteal" operates the website "WildProtest.com," which proclaims that "PRESIDENT TRUMP WANTS YOU IN DC JANUARY 6."

"Be there, will be wild," says one flier.

The event has been co-signed by incoming members of Congress Lauren Boebert and Marjorie Taylor Greene.

On Friday, New Year's Day, Trump tweeted that the "the BIG Protest Rally" in Washington will be at 11 a.m. on Wednesday, Jan. 6. "Locational details to follow," Trump said.

The BIG Protest Rally in Washington, D.C., will take place at 11.00 A.M. on January 6th. Locational details to follow. StopTheSteal!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 1, 2021

The National Park Service has received three different permit applications for protests to be scheduled around the electoral vote count.

Women for America First, a conservative women's group which helped organize November's "Million MAGA March," requested a permit for a protest of about 5,000 in Freedom Plaza.

A group called the Eighty Percent Coalition also requested a permit for 10,000 protestors in the same area. The group, whose name is a reference to the approximately 80% of Trump voters who do not believe Biden won the election fairly, have titled their event the "Rally to Save America."

Another smaller protest titled "The Silent Majority" is organized by the South Carolina conservative activist James Epley. It will lead several hundred protestors in a march from the National Mall to the Capitol.

The United States Park Police confirmed that the permits had all been approved but not yet issued. It did not comment on specific security measures it will take to keep the peace.

"The Park Police is committed to working with its partners to protect the public and National Park Service resources by ensuring that safety protocols are in place for permitted events and other First Amendment activities," the agency said in a statement.

On the social media app Parler and far-right message boards, members of the group "Proud Boys" have discussed organizing in Washington D.C. and a leader of the group, Enrique Tarrio, suggested they will be incognito.

"The Proud Boys will turn out in record numbers on Jan 6th but this time with a twist," Tarrio said on Parler.

"We will not be wearing our traditional Black and Yellow. We will be incognito and we will spread across downtown DC in smaller teams," he wrote.

Tarrio also posited that the group may dress in all-black gear at night, a style similar to the black bloc clothing tactic used by Antifa groups who often combat the Proud Boys.

Other groups are planning to demonstrate at the Capitol itself as the House and Senate count Electoral College votes.

At least 140 sitting and incoming members of the House of Representatives will also challenge Congress' official count of the Electoral College vote.

Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., then said Wednesday he'll contest the election results, ensuring that Congress will be forced to debate the issue when lawmakers convene for the joint session.

It could all add up to a political circus on Jan. 6, from the House and Senate chambers to the streets of Washington, D.C.

While local and federal law enforcement agencies did not detail their security strategies, they said they will be prepared as they have been for previous protests.

"While we do not discuss the means, methods, or specific resources used to carry out our protective responsibilities, the United States Capitol Police has comprehensive security plans in place and we continuously monitor and assess new and emerging threats, with the overall goal of keeping those within the Capitol Complex safe and secure," the US Capitol Police said in a statement to USA TODAY.

Many restaurants and office buildings in downtown Washington, D.C., are already boarded up, just as they were for demonstrations in the summer regarding racial justice and, more recently, the presidential election.

Washington is also in the midst of COVID-19 restrictions, including a ban on indoor eating at restaurants.

Trump, who Thursday cut short his end-of-the-year trip to South Florida and returned to the White House, has promoted the Jan. 6 protests by his backers.

"JANUARY SIXTH, SEE YOU IN DC!" Trump tweeted on Wednesday, a theme he echoed throughout the holidays.

Trump has not said whether he plans to attend any of the rallies scheduled for Jan. 6.

On Nov. 14, en route to a political rally for Georgia Senate races, Trump's motorcade passed thousands of supporters rallying in Freedom Plaza, a public square about two blocks east of the White House.

Four weeks later, departing the White House for the Army-Navy game in upstate New York, Trump had the Marine One helicopter fly over cheering supporters gathered on the National Mall.

Those Dec. 12 rallies came two days before members of the Electoral College gathered in 50 state capitals to cast their votes based on the results of the popular votes in their states. Biden, who won more than 7 million votes than Trump in the popular vote, prevailed with 306 electoral votes to Trump's 232.

Congress is scheduled to certify the Electoral College tally on Jan. 6.

Normally, Congress' task of recording the electoral votes and formally declaring a winner in the Electoral College is a formality. This year, the pro-Trump congressional factions have vowed to challenge the electoral votes in certain swing states that went for Biden.

That will trigger debates in both the House and Senate, though the outcome is not in doubt. Democrats control the House and will surely vote to confirm Biden's votes; meanwhile, enough Republican senators have said they oppose the protests and will not support dismissing Biden's electoral votes.

In pressuring Congress, Trump and his backers have voiced the same unfounded claims they made in previous lawsuits and state election complaints. A variety of judges and state election officials, including Republicans, dismissed those claims and proclaimed the elections in their states to be free and fair.

Many pro-Trump rallies across the country have seen violence erupt between the president's supporters and police and counter-protestors.

During a day of demonstrations on Dec. 12, at least four people were stabbed during a melee in downtown Washington near the Harrington Hotel. The hotel announced this week that it will be closed on Jan. 4-6, saying in a statement: "While we cannot control what happens outside of the hotel, we are taking additional steps to protect the safety of our visitors, guests, and employees."

At previous demonstrations, Trump supporters included groups like the Proud Boys and other organizations the FBI has labeled as extremists who believe in white nationalism. Some have roamed the streets taunting people, looking for confrontations over Trump's presidency.

On Dec. 12, Trump supporters marched through downtown Washington D.C. Police lines formed to separate marchers from large groups of Trump opponents, the two sides yelling at and threatening each other.

Some of the police lines were designed to prevent Trump groups from entering Black Lives Matter Plaza, an area two blocks north of the White House that is a popular gathering spot for the president's opponents.

Skirmishes involving far-right groups have resulted in dozens of police injuries and hospitalizations of counter-protestors.

Some Republicans have denounced Trump's calls to overturn the election, saying he is playing with fire that could flare into violence by his most fervid supporters, especially during the Electoral College count on Jan. 6.

The Wall Street Journal editorial page, which has often supported the Trump administration, said Republicans need to think about what would happen if Congress somehow denied Biden sufficient electoral votes and instead declared Trump the winner.

"Riots in the streets would be the least of it," the editorial said.

https://news.yahoo.com/wild-protests-police-brace-pro-213117818.html

I'm sorry you can't quite comprehend the difference in promoting peaceful protests and promoting riots. It seems to be a hurdle you just can't quite clear. Not my circus, not my monkey.

Oh, it's been cleared. You just fell down at the starting line.

They must not report these riots on the alphabet channels or the South China Morning Post. (US edition)


Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler pledges to 'push back harder' against Antifa after New Year's Eve riot

Wheeler's zero-tolerance policy comes after a string of violent clashes in the city's downtown area


By Adam Shaw

Fox News





Portland declares riot as protests continue into new year

More than 100 people gathered outside a federal courthouse in Portland.

Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler is promising to "push back harder" against anarchists and Antifa radicals after another riot rocked the city on New Year's Eve, admitting that months-long efforts to stem the violence have failed.

"My good faith efforts at de-escalation have been met with ongoing violence and even scorn from radical Antifa and anarchists," Wheeler said during a Friday news conference, according to KOIN. "In response, it will be necessary to use additional tools and push the limits of the tools we already have to bring the criminal destruction and violence to an end."

PORTLAND POLICE DECLARE RIOT AS CITY'S UNREST CARRIED INTO NEW YEAR

Wheeler, a Democrat, was responding to the New Year's Eve riot near the downtown courthouse, which was the focus of months of violent disturbances last summer. Police said hoodlums on Thursday night threw "multiple firebombs" at cops and launched commercial-grade fireworks at the courthouse.

Rioters also smashed windows and set fires in the area, KOIN reported, and police began using pepper spray or mace against the crowd, as well as what appeared to be rubber bullets or pepper balls.

Seven months after the first riots hit the city, Wheeler said that it was time to take further steps to quell the violence.

"Lawlessness and anarchy come at great expense and great risk to the future of our community," he said. "It’s time to push back harder against those who are set on destroying our community, and take more risks fighting lawlessness."

He also noted the demographics of the rioters, who often claim to be fighting for racial justice.

"Why would a group of largely white, young and some middle-age men destroy the livelihood of others who are struggling to get by?" he asked, before calling it the "height of selfishness."

Wheeler said it was hard for him and others "to accept the reality that there are just some people on this planet who are bent on criminal destruction; that there are some people who truly just want to watch the world burn."

Some of the enforcement actions he suggested were tougher penalties for rioting, as well as requiring offenders to do public service and meet the owners of the businesses they damaged.


Violence first tore through the liberal stronghold throughout the summer in the wake of the death of George Floyd by police officers in Minnesota. Wheeler, however, focused on the federal law enforcement officers sent in by the Trump administration, ostensibly to protect federal buildings -- accusing them of exacerbating tensions.

In July, he said his immediate concern was "the violence federal officers brought to our streets in recent days, and the life-threatening tactics his agents use."
Ted Wheeler faces backlash from protesters despite his sympathiesVideo

"We do not need or want their help," he said, a view that was echoed by the state's governor and congressional delegation.

PORTLAND MAYOR AUTHORIZES 'ALL LAWFUL MEANS' TO CLEAR PROTESTERS FROM HOME

Wheeler even joined protesters outside the courthouse and tried to conduct a "listening session" -- before being hit by tear gas deployed by federal agents.

However, while some protesters were receptive, many others heckled and booed him, objecting to his refusal to back some of their demands such as abolishing the Portland Police Bureau.

"F--- Ted Wheeler!" one protester shouted. "He doesn’t get to speak, he’s a f---ing fascist."

Wheeler narrowly beat a left-wing challenger in November but has continued to deal with trouble from anarchists and Antifa violence.

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In December, he authorized police to use "all lawful means" in ending an illegal occupation at a home in the city, in which protesters tried to declare an autonomous zone.

"There will be no autonomous zone in Portland," Wheeler said.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/portland-ted-wheeler-pledges-antifa-riots

It seems not. Wheeler never endorsed riots. That's just a lie because you refuse to admit the difference.



See, this is a lie you posted. Now either you can't understand the difference between a protest and a riot or you're just lying on purpose. I don't really care which one it is. In either case it's a pure lie.

He supported the protests, not the riots. Stop lying.

Actually they were widely reported. It's not anyone's fault but your own that you type foolish things before looking for yourself. Here's an alphabet channel for you. But of course you just spew manure so....

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/portland-po...out-of-control/

Stop it.

He continued to allow the attacks on the government building and then blamed the administration as the responsible party for the rioting. Be blocked any police intervention to squash the nightly violence on it (because he also serves as chief of police commissioner which is a ridiculous role for a mayor). He went out with and was in the middle of the very people (Antifa) that were destructing property on a daily basis only to have to be protected once they turned on him too.

Actions (or lack thereof) speak louder than words. Or in this case, press conferences.

Anyone with a brain knows what he saw for months in Portland and he did nothing because he needed their votes.

Well most people with a brain, I suppose.

So none of this is true... "Wheeler is the Portland democrat mayor who backed these riots earlier in the year."

Show me anywhere that he supported or backed these riots? You can't. And yes, he did something. Many arrests were made. He just didn't do as much as you think he should have so you just post crap you've made up in your own mind.

By not doing anything of note to stop them before represents a form of endorsement. He wasn't asking for help and asked for federal help to stay away.

I hope he isn't asking for Federal aid to fix things. The people of Portland voted for this guy. Let them pony up

Coming from a trump supporter? The web we weave.

Yeah, cities can just print money like the federal government does. Many arrests were made in Portland. I know that doesn't fit your narrative.

Nothing to say about Trump calling for "wild protests" or Gohmert calling for street violence?

It's odd how you try to play complete the puzzle for Democrats and stay silent about Republican officials who actually request chaos and violence.

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At the end someone is yelling "kill 'em"

Wondering where all of those calling for the BLM protesters to be arrested are. Why aren't you calling for the arrest of these people.

BLM was a protest marred by a small percent of individuals who rioted.
This is frank insurrection and treason.

They should be arrested and tossed in jail. And force should be used on them. This is a no brainer.

When the guard shows up, there will probably be violence.

Everyone of them need to be arrested

A lady was shot in the chest. Trump tweeted out asking for peace. At this point, it's like asking for peace after telling people to fight. It's also a good tactic to say that the lady getting shot in the chest wasn't because of you...

It's nothing more than a cover your ass moment. I live in Tennessee and Marsha Blackburn is currently pulling that same BS move. Her fingerprints are all over this too.

It's 100% because of Trump and Rudy and every other Republican who promoted a proven false narrative. This went through "every court in the Nation" up to the highest court in the land ... they all threw it out because there the whole basis of a stolen election is utterly false. Rot in hell for eternity ... or whatever awaits us after we depart this life.

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I'm right here.

I have a job and such, so I couldn't post as instantly as perhaps you would've liked.




These are goon thug lowlifes that need to be arrested. Just as I see no room for looting and burning stores down, and despise that people that have done that, these people need to be arrested and sentenced to prison.

Peaceful protest? Yup, right. They all start out peaceful until they turn into this. If shots need to be fired to defend the capital, do so.

I just got off work too. Anybody committing violence needs to be arrested. Deadly force needs to be dealt with deadly force. I'll never condone acting like an animal.

You weren't the only one. I respect the few of you guys here condemning today's events but there are what 3 or 4 in this thread and Eve in the other. But there were a lot more than you 5. And there is a lot of silence out there. But I guess it's better than the one poster supporting it.

I'd love to hear more about this once everything is back under control. While I don't fault anyone for thinking things wouldn't get this far I do think the authorities were woefully unprepared. They knew there would be a rally, and they've heard Trump spewing all the ridiculousness lately.... how they didn't have the stormtroopers at the ready is shocking.

If I were one of those officers trying to face down a mob by themselves, I'd be demanding answers and/or heads to roll.

Amen to all of that. While the bulk of people discussing the issue do so in the usual "I know you are, but what am I?" format we've all learned to expect, no one seems to be asking the obvious question. How is this possible when everyone knew it was coming for weeks on end?? Almost as if they wanted it to go down exactly as it did. Only question is - who is "they"?

Vision emerges of police moving barricades to allow rioters into US Capitol, taking selfies

In terms of my questions in my earlier post, 'they' is Capitol Police and those responsible for the running of the Capitol building.

I don't think having all the stormtroopers there to greet the protestors is a good initial move... but supposedly metro police weren't called until things were already well past the tipping point, and they weren't immediately ready to respond with help. Stuff like that really makes you wonder... you know?

I'm not going to the extreme of trying to say this was something that was orchestrated. Human beings have a way of being naive, unprepared and at times even woefully ignorant. As much as many of us knew something like this was at the very least possible, the only other time the Capital Building was attacked was by the British in the War of 1812. At least then it was by an enemy outside of the United States. Not from an enemy within led by our own president. So I can see the possibility of why they wouldn't have expected this degree of extremes.

But now they know. Now there is no excuse. So let's see what later tonight and tomorrow brings.

Oh, I don't think the unpreparedness was some sort of conspiracy. My expectation is that the root cause will be some level of incompetence.

So why are these people being dispersed and not arrested?

Probably the same reason Antifa and BLM was dispersed and not arrested.

Need more drama for tomorrows news.