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Agreed ... watching the Buckeyes game, I hope Hill doesn't destroy the Browns like Smith did the Buckeyes ... but I agree this is a winnable game. Unlike the Pittsburgh game that I thought we would win -- I simply think we *can* win. Be interesting to see if 20 days without a game hurts the Chiefs as much as time off clearly hurt Ben and Pouncey. I doubt it but it may be a factor. I'm looking forward to the game without any concern or anxiety ... this has already been a phenomenal season and I 100% trust Stefanski to approach this game level headed with an attitude of expecting to go 1-0.

Problem is we average giving up 30.4 points in away games !

We are easily going to give up at least 35 points ... our offense is gonna have to be flawless and our D will have to try to get a TO or 2

Staff should watch tape of the Pats game vs KC and implement a similar defensive game plan.

That is how you defend the Chiefs (as best as you can).

That Cover 5 defense that was implemented I think by the Patriots definitely gave Mahomes fits. I think the problem now is that he's seen it and has had the chance to break it down. The other issue is that we don't have the same personnel on defense that the Patriots have, so I'm not sure how effective we would be in implementing it.

I do think there are basic principles though that were effective. One is don't blitz, because I think Mahomes may have been (at least at one point) the most effective QB against the blitz this year. The other is that I think we need to keep our coverage schemes disguised and complex - more so than usual. Hopefully not to the degree, though, where it confuses our own guys in executing it.

I don't expect this game to go in our favor, but we do sure as hell have to try!

The best defense for the KC offense is to keep them off the field.
We probably would have to accomplish all of these but get Chubb and Hunt their touches and get at least the production we got in the pitts game, win time of possession battle and win the turnover battle

Daryl Ruiter
@RuiterWrongFAN
#Browns roster moves:

Placed on Reserve/Injured:
G Michael Dunn (calf)
CB Robert Jackson (hamstring)

Placed on Practice Squad/Injured:
CB A.J. Green (hamstring)

Signed to practice squad:
CB Donovan Olumba

The Raiders beat them this year, in their first meeting. They came close in the second one.

A high scoring offense like the Raiders - or us - can give them fits, it seems. The Saints came close to winning, too. We just need the defense to slow them down a little the way the Bills, Broncos, Chargers, and Falcons did. All of those teams held the Chiefs to under 30 points, and a couple kept them under 20 points. That's a large enough sample size to show it CAN be done... we just have to figure out how to make it work with our scheme and personnel and still have our offense click along at full speed.

I see a few of you are buying into this bit about ball control and/or defense being a way to win. This is dead wrong, IMO. The only way we win this game (and it's closer to 1.9% vs. 19% chance) is in a 49-45 game, or something like that.

KC is the team just on cruise control through the regular season now...you cannot take anything they've done or not done in recent weeks as a given. Mahomes in the playoffs is gonna get 35+. With our defense, I would put the O/U on KC punts at 1.5. We have to score TDs and keep scoring them until 00s. I don't have a lot of faith that we will, but I'll be rooting my tail off for it. Maybe push that go-for-it-on-4th-down threshhold to our own 30+ yd line.

I watched the Carolina/KC game when it happened (and this was when they had CEH too) ... Carolina really handled the ball through the ground and intermediate passing. Crossing routes and deep in routes.

I have to think they’re going to need to bring a guy or two into the box against us, which should help too

If the Raiders and Chargers can beat them, then so can we.

We are going to get MUCH healthier. We should get Bitonio back as well as our 2 starting CBs. A Mahommes offense also could allow our Dline to impact the game unlike a Big Ben offense (he holds the ball longer than Ben, which benefits our big fellas).

I actually like our match-up against the Chiefs. We run a very similar offense to the 49ers, who ran and threw play-action all over the Chiefs in the Superbowl last year, until they stopped running for whatever reason.

And on defense, I like the point you brought up. Another thing to consider...Mahomes loves to take deep drops and sling it with his cannon arm. This plays right into MG's hands, as he excels with the speed rush around the outside. Garrett is going to need a big game for us to win, and I think he could give Mahomes fits the whole game. They will have to double-team him to get off those long passes.

I say we limit our blitzes, play coverage, and hope MG and our D-line can cause some havoc. I also like Ronnie Harrison on Kelce.

Even if our STRENGTH was our secondary ... we’d be screwed with Mahomes. It’s almost better that we have our eggs in other baskets.

However, the rumors of Ward not being activated really hurt our chances

Here are some promising facts I've discovered while doing a little digging on a lazy day off.

- The Chiefs haven't won a game by more than one score since
November 1st.
- Only 2 of the 8 opponents since then were playoff teams
- The largest margin of victory over that time was 6 pts
- The average margin of victory was only 3.85 pts
- The only playoff team they beat by 10 or more this entire
season were the rats back in September.
- The other double digit wins were vs the Jets, Broncos, Pats
and Texans...and those were all in the first half of the
season.

The Chiefs have not been the juggernaut they're made out to be, and seem to be doing just enough to get by. Andy Reid knows how to win games.

We do have our work cut out for us. To have a chance, we have to take advantage of the dust they need to shake off from their layoff, and then Woods is going to have to come up with a better game plan than just hanging on for dear life if and when we get a lead. Mahommes just thrives in those situations.

that the effects of Covid have really taken a toll on him. He’s extremely sick. Probably would be ineffective even if cleared

I don't know who D4l is reading but I can tell you not one of the Browns reporters have mentioned anything about Ward not being activated.

Yeah, just going by what Jake Burns has been saying on his account and stuff on the paid site of OBR

KC hasn't blown anyone out since week 8 against the Jets...

I think the Browns have a shot, but they are going to need a nearly flawless game. No turnovers, force a few yourself, and don't kick field goals in the red zone.

Mahomes is gonna get his, that's just what he does. Hill is going to be a handful, so is Kelce.

These guys did get two weeks of rest. They sat guys week 17, and had last week off. Browns might be able to punch them in the mouth early, similar to what we saw on Sunday in Pittsburgh.

Gun to my head, I am taking the Chiefs, but I do like the Browns against the number. We have to see what happens with both teams as the week progresses. This is going to be such a long week lmao

This might be the game where we suddenly get real aggressive on D. There's no way our secondary can keep up with Hill-Kelce-Watkins-etc. When Pitt decided they could still throw the big passes even though we were playing off, Schuster and Claypool started getting theirs.

We have to play flawless on O in order to only require the minimum number of stops from our D. I know we kept taking away the ball from Big Ben, but I think we used all that up just like we did in the beginning of the season and then suddenly not being able to take anything from anyone.

That's a revealing list of win margins that Bonefish posted. I hear some TV talking heads say the Chiefs have been on autopilot during the regular season, but I guarantee you that they were on afterburner trying to win those games.

https://youtu.be/mypHZmXdU3o

Fats Domino Going to Kansas City

Nantz and Romo for us on Sunday.

we haven’t done great with them announcing games, at least from my memory.

I hope a few KC players decide to spout off on social media (and then decide to not play )

We're going to have to play the way we did against the Steelers and then some. If I were our coaching staff I'd watch film on all their games and see what other teams did on D to stop them. Whatever worked I would try to duplicate it if we can with our personnel. I'm sure they already thought of this and are doing it.

Watkins already did..but then again so did Hunt( which I didn't care for) Watkins basically said we aren't any competition

I follow Burns on Twitter and I have not seen anything about this. Hoping it is not true.

I find the lack of news on Ward a little worrisome.

Let's see a Link.

I see NOTHING from Burns, nor on OBR.

I do as well

Even though I know it won't happen. I would like to see stefanski let pelt call the plays again. Stefanski has gotten pass happy. Pelt didnt go away from the run as much.

I think this game will be a Baker v Mahomes shootout.

I do, too, but I think our run game vs their defense will allow us to be a bit more balanced.