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Been In Lake Tahoe since Friday(Sitting in Reno Airport right now), and that's all that's on the news here, pretty bad, some 500k people evacuated and several hundred homes already destroyed.
Not sure what's worst, forest fires or hurricanes. At leats with hurricanes you may have your house badly damaged, but usually most of your belonging survive to some extent, in these fires, it's all destroyed.
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Get home safely, FloridaFan. I have a nephew living outside of San Diego a small city on the coast just north of San Diego and my brother tells me Mark and his family are safe so far. 
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You could not pay me enough to get me to live in California. Wildfires, earthquakes, and a shaky strata with massive faultlines underneath ..... cost of living through the roof ...... landslides ..... 3 hour 15 mile drives ...... freak shows on any given street ..... political lunacy and political correctness run amock, yet somehow in concert with one another ...... No thanks.  Hopefully they will get the fires under control quickly and have no further casualties.
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i agree john david booty on fire
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I hope Pacific Beach doesn't get hit. San Diego is a beautiful area for those who haven't been there before.
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I hope Pacific Beach doesn't get hit. San Diego is a beautiful area for those who haven't been there before.
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You could not pay me enough to get me to live in California.
Wildfires, earthquakes, and a shaky strata with massive faultlines underneath ..... cost of living through the roof ...... landslides ..... 3 hour 15 mile drives ...... freak shows on any given street ..... political lunacy and political correctness run amock, yet somehow in concert with one another ......
No thanks.
Hopefully they will get the fires under control quickly and have no further casualties.
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Wow. It's almost as if this happens every year.
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It's pretty scary here. The fire moved 30 miles in about 6 hours, and we did not know what was going to happen yesterday.
There is a fire to the north of me, a fire to the south, the closing of I-15 made evacuations more difficult.
The evacuations have been handled well. The City/County/State/Federal government learned a lot from the Cedar Fire of 2003.
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Not good man...........hope the best for you! When I hear there are more houses on fire then fire fighters........that saddens me..........a bad situation out there for sure! 
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From my daughters house. 
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Thanks for the concern! Doing okay, but we're still in an evacuated zone. I'll try to keep everyone posted when I can.
Just got this P.M. from ExelDawg. Didn't mention where he was though.
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Thats an amazing photo I hope and pray that all your family is safe and that your daughters home is spared.
Did any of you watch NFL network last night where they were talking about the Chargers having to move their home game possibly to Arizona again for their next game. For the players this must be very hard to know that their loved ones and friends are still in the area and they are suppose to focus on the game.
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It would be hard to focus.
I wonder if all these fires are natural or if some nut....or for that matter, even terrorists have started a few??
Just seems to be more than the normal IMO.
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Good point Peen I never thought about a group deliberatly setting these fires, this is something that unfortunatley groups could get away with pretty easily.
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Pretty bad scene out there.
The news I saw while in Tahoe seemed to think they were all natural fires, but it seemed like every hour they were reporting new fires starting up. ALOT of homes lost, and an entire county worth of people evac'd. This is sad.
A member of another forum I am on reported his home was lost yesterday. He says he and his wife are doing fine, they got out with their animals, and the 2 cars, but that's all. They got wakened by the reverse 911 call at 5:30 and were out the door within 10 minutes.
He said the wost part was sitting in a hotel watching the news and seeing a news reporter talking about the fires while standing in front of HIS house.
Prayers out to all those being affected by this.
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It would be hard to focus.
I wonder if all these fires are natural or if some nut....or for that matter, even terrorists have started a few??
Just seems to be more than the normal IMO.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2003-07-11-alqaeda-fire_x.htm
FBI: al-Qaeda detainee spoke of fire plot
PHOENIX (AP) — The FBI alerted law enforcement agencies last month that an al-Qaeda terrorist now in detention had talked of masterminding a plot to set a series of devastating forest fires around the western United States.
Rose Davis, a spokeswoman for the National Interagency Fire Center in Boise, told The Associated Press that officials there took note of the warning but didn't see a need to act further on it.
The contents of the June 25 memo from the FBI's Denver office were reported Friday by The Arizona Republic. Davis declined to share a copy of the memo and an FBI spokeswoman in Denver didn't immediately return a telephone call.
The Republic reported that the detainee, who was not identified, said the plan involved three or four people setting wildfires using timed devices in Colorado, Montana, Utah and Wyoming that would detonate in forests and grasslands after the operatives had left the country.
The memo noted that investigators couldn't determine whether the detainee was telling the truth.
The newspaper said many forest law enforcement officers it contacted had no idea the warning had been issued.
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It would be hard to focus.
I wonder if all these fires are natural or if some nut....or for that matter, even terrorists have started a few??
Just seems to be more than the normal IMO.
FOX news this morning had a reporter at one of the neighborhoods where the fire was at report that the California Highway Patrol had officers in an area watching for looters when a Highway Patrol helicopter spotted a man riding a motorcycle get off it and start a fire, the helicopter alerted the cops on the ground and he was caught. I'll see if i can find a link.
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Not exactly the way the reporter described it but i did find this. "About 9:20 p.m., the California Highway Patrol received a call from someone reporting a brush fire on Highway 173, north of Highway 138 and south of the Mojave Forks Campground. CHP officers arrived to find several people attempting to douse the flames. They said they saw a man crouched on the ground and starting a fire, then flee on a red motorcycle," the San Bernardino County Sun, a fellow Gannett paper, reports. LINK
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I don't want to jump the gun when I say this, nor do I want to target the entire New Orleans population, but the San Diego evacuees certainly seem to be handling this equally tragic event much better than the mass chaos and looting that filled New Orleans shortly after Katrina. Could be a combination of several factors (socio-economic status of the majority affected, electricity/sanitary conditions in shelters, more police/gov't structure in place, etc), but as difficult a situation as it appears, I've heard little the way of total anarchy as New Orleans appeared.
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Like you said...a different slice of the pie.
The whole pie isn't spoiled.
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I don't want to jump the gun when I say this, nor do I want to target the entire New Orleans population, but the San Diego evacuees certainly seem to be handling this equally tragic event much better than the mass chaos and looting that filled New Orleans shortly after Katrina. Could be a combination of several factors (socio-economic status of the majority affected, electricity/sanitary conditions in shelters, more police/gov't structure in place, etc), but as difficult a situation as it appears, I've heard little the way of total anarchy as New Orleans appeared.
maybe it's fire .. hot.... no want to be burned..  and withj all the smoke in their lungs, who has the power to grab stuff?
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In fairness though...the problems related to Katrina were 10x this.
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That and the area's in the fire where looters would choose to loot, all the loot is being burned.
Much different situation.
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Isn't some part of California always on fire?
Not trying to downplay the severity of it, but when this happens so frequently, non-California residents become numb to it.
Regardless, I wish the best to those affected.
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I wonder if they raise home insurance rates in California after these things like they do for Hurricanes in Florida.
3 years ago my home insurance was $900, this year is was $3300.
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I don't want to jump the gun when I say this, nor do I want to target the entire New Orleans population, but the San Diego evacuees certainly seem to be handling this equally tragic event much better than the mass chaos and looting that filled New Orleans shortly after Katrina. Could be a combination of several factors (socio-economic status of the majority affected, electricity/sanitary conditions in shelters, more police/gov't structure in place, etc), but as difficult a situation as it appears, I've heard little the way of total anarchy as New Orleans appeared.
They're making that comparison a lot now. Apparently, more people have been evacuated here than during hurricane Katrina. The city of San Diego is practically running a clinic on how to handle mass evacuations and emergency situations. On top of that, the citizens themselves are going above and beyond in trying to help each other out. At Qualcomm stadium, they were even turning people away because they had received too many food donations. No worries about 25% of the police force quitting, zero worries about rioting ... There's hardly been talk about looting, outside of the media outlets warning against it. One of the local radio media outlets were practically leaping for joy because they thought they had caught the first looter in action. When the police double checked, it turned out to be a resident just getting more stuff from their own house.
The local goverment here had plans in place and excuted things well. Local school bus drivers were told to report to work on Monday, and they used those busses to help evacuate a couple of the hospitals and other areas. FEMA showed up Tuesday afternoon (Two days after) and basically had nothing to do except sign checks over to victims. No fuss was made about the federal goverment not doing anything because the city had it's act together and didn't really need the help.
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Good to hear. Funny how that works, isn't it? If a city or state is prepared for what they have been told to prepare for, and they actually DO something, evacuations can happen. Sounds to me like, instead of the old proverbial "pass the buck" thing, the people of San Diego county said "screw it, we'll take care of ourselves".
Sorry about all the losses taking place out there. (and I won't even go into what could've been done to make this much less horrible, as that is for a different thread, on a different day.).
Good luck.
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No, fire aren't going on all the time down here, but every year there are some going on. We get the Santa Ana winds every year about this time. It has high wind gust, low humidity, and high temperatures. Unfortunately, the news reporters let everyone know when the Santa Anas are coming. That lets the arsonist know their best time to strike. I hate arsonists.
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They shoot looters....in certain situations...why not arsonists?
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I have no problem with that!
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No, fire aren't going on all the time down here, but every year there are some going on. We get the Santa Ana winds every year about this time. It has high wind gust, low humidity, and high temperatures. Unfortunately, the news reporters let everyone know when the Santa Anas are coming. That lets the arsonist know their best time to strike. I hate arsonists.
Well arsonists are really dumb. If anyone gets caught for arson in some of these fires, they may be going to prison for a very long time especially any fires that had a loss of life. They can and most likely will be charged with murder. It's just plain stupidity.. i mean imagine if an apartment complex catches on fire and the whole area is surrounded with no escape.. geez.
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