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Winslow a Bright Spot in Dismal Year
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By Fred Greetham
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Posted Dec 21, 2006

Straight from Berea, here's Fred Greetham's report for Thursday, December 21. Today, Kellen talks more to the press, Gary Baxter is sighted, and an NFL head coach says that John Clayton has heard more than he has...

BEREA - Yes, he?s brash. Yes, he?s outspoken.

And sometimes Browns fans wish he would just shut up and do his job.

"I do what I do to prepare myself to play," Kellen Winslow said. "Whatever the talk is, it?s a way to help me get ready.

"I hope nobody takes it personally," he said. "It?s just a game and I just enjoy playing and competing."

However, Winslow is only 14 receptions away from having the best year receiving in Browns history and that spans a lot of good ones including Hall of Famers Ozzie Newsome and Paul Warfield.

The Browns two remaining games are against Tampa Bay and Houston, ranked as the 23rd and 24th pass defenses in the NFL.

Despite the Browns having another dismal season, Winslow has 76 receptions for 755 yards with three touchdowns. Winslow?s season is the fourth-best in Browns? history passing the 69 reception seasons of Ozzie Newsome and Antonio Bryant in 1981 and 2005, respectively.

Newsome caught 89 passes in 1983 and 1984. Kevin Johnson caught 84 passes on 2001.

Winslow is essentially playing in his rookie season, considering he was lost for the season in just the second game of his rookie season and then missing the entire 2005 season after suffering a knee injury in a motorcycle accident. He caught just five passes in the two games he played in 2004.

Winslow is the leading tight end in receiving in the NFL. He is also the seventh leading receiver in the AFC in receptions and 14th leading receiver, overall, in the NFL.

In 2006, Winslow has played despite needing to have surgery on his knee after the season. He usually misses some practices during the week to rest his knee. He has been listed on the injury report as ?questionable? throughout the season.

He was asked if he can block as effectively as he needs to.

"There are things I can?t do," Winslow said. "I can?t squat. It?s been tough to get strength in my legs. The coaches have saved my legs for the games and that?s helped me."

Crennel thinks the off-season will help Winslow.

"In football or any sport, you have to practice to get good," he said. "He hasn?t been able to practice all the time. You have to wonder how good he would be if he was able to practice all the time. It makes you wonder if he would be off the charts."

Winslow is excited to have the off-season to have the surgery and rest up for next season.

"I?m very confident that I will be better next season," he said. "I want to take care of the knee as soon as possible after the season. It?s not that big of a deal."

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Baxter Sighting: CB Gary Baxter was seen in the locker room Thursday walking with the use of a walker. Baxter tore both of his patellar tendons in a game earlier this season and has been recuperating at the Cleveland Clinic until recently.

Versatile Williams: Crennel was asked if the coaching staff has thought about using LB Leon Williams as a pass rusher on the outside in the future.

"He looked pretty good in his first start," he said. "He handled the position pretty well.We?ve talked about the possibility of working him at both spots (inside and outside). He?s a rookie and we needed depth on the inside this year."

Frye Update: There was a report on ESPN saying that QB Charlie Frye had a broken bone in his hand, but Crennel said he wasn?t aware of that.

"No doctor has told me he has a broken bone," Crennel said. "He did get a second opinion, but that?s all I know."

Frye was seen in the locker room area with a wrap over his wrist. He was unavailable for comment.

Crennel said QB Derek Anderson will start for the third-straight week.

RB Situation: Crennel said RB Reuben Droughns was back at practice and expected to start Sunday against Tampa Bay. Rookie RB Jerome Harrison is expected to be the backup to Droughns with RB Jason Wright being placed on injured reserve.

"Harrison brings that extra quickness and burst," Crennel said. "I think it has shown up at times, but there?s a consistency level he needs."

Harrison has carried the ball 19 times for 62 yards. He?s also caught nine passes for 47 yards.

Crennel indicated one of the key areas for Harrison is pass protection blocking.

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Keep doing what you're doing KW2!!!!!!! Don't EVER change.......


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Hallelujah, HARRISON!!!!!

Get the kid in there, if they blitz the crap out of us, UTILIZE THE SCREEN.


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[color:"white"] Harrison has carried the ball 19 times for 62 yards. He?s also caught nine passes for 47 yards.
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I can't wait to see Winslow catch a pass and have some room to make some serious YAC. Seems like every catch he gets hit within seconds. He has shown his strength by carrying defenders and breaking tackles, but I want to see his speed!

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Why we used Jason Wright instead of Harrison early on is a mystery to me.

People say its cause Harrison couldn't block well---well neither can anyone else. But you get him in the open field and he can make plays!!


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[color:"red"] He was asked if he can block as effectively as he needs to.

"There are things I can?t do," Winslow said. "I can?t squat. It?s been tough to get strength in my legs. The coaches have saved my legs for the games and that?s helped me."
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Well get that knee fixed and there'll be no excuses to BLOCK..that will make U a complete TE..

[color:"red"]Versatile Williams: Crennel was asked if the coaching staff has thought about using LB Leon Williams as a pass rusher on the outside in the future.
"He looked pretty good in his first start," he said. "He handled the position pretty well.We?ve talked about the possibility of working him at both spots (inside and outside). He?s a rookie and we needed depth on the inside this year."
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Uhh..YO RAC!
U don't need to put him at OLB to rush him...U can blitz him from his inside spot..and u can put him out there if ya want to..not hard to do..pull McGinest out for a spell..

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Versatile Williams: Crennel was asked if the coaching staff has thought about using LB Leon Williams as a pass rusher on the outside in the future.

"He looked pretty good in his first start," he said. "He handled the position pretty well.We?ve talked about the possibility of working him at both spots (inside and outside). He?s a rookie and we needed depth on the inside this year."
[color:"white"]That doesn't speak well on Unck as anything more than special teams, and Thompson was the 2nd guy off the bench. Still, I've kinda viewed Williams as more of an OLB, but I don't have a desire one way or another. He was my pet-project coming out of college even before the Browns drafted him, and to see him coming along like this is very encouraging. I think he has a real future on this team, unlike some of the rest of the defensive players within his unit and on that side of the ball. [/color]


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However, Winslow is only 14 receptions away from having the best year receiving in Browns history and that spans a lot of good ones including Hall of Famers Ozzie Newsome and Paul Warfield.


[color:"gold"] Let's hope Winslow gets more opportunities this week than he got last week. It would be a great comeback for the kid after being sidelined for two seasons.

We have a horse and it's time for the Browns to ride that horse.

Have the Browns extended Winslow yet?

I know there was talk about the Browns trying to get a year or two extention on K2's contract...just can't remember if we got it done. [/color]


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Actually, it'd be kinda nice if he learned how to block.

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Anyone but me remember the draft, when the anti-KW2 people suggested Watson or Wilson, saying that Winslow couldn't block, while the pro-KW2 people said that Winslow was an excellent blocker, and the bad blocking was a myth perpetuated by OSU homers? <img src="/images/graemlins/rolleyes1.gif" alt="" />

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[color:"white"]Hehehe........Meanwhile, I, being the ultimate REALIST, said that Winslow was one of the greatest receiving threats at TE to ever come out of college, but at best was a shield blocker who couldn't move even the smallest of linebackers.

Now he apparently can't even do leg squats, which obviously destroys any chance he has of being even a shield blocker.

He needs his knee worked on, and the coaches to teach him how to block once he's got the mobility and strength back in his legs. Once that happens, if he can simply go back to being a shield blocker, he'll be a legitimate pro-bowl threat. [/color]


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I swear you two are the most knowledgeable posters here (just ask yourselves!!!) <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

If i remember correctly there wasnt a whole lot of fanfare against K2 because he wasnt an adequate blocker. He is physical and doesnt seem to mind mixing it up, that leads to believe it just a big part of the role he was asked to play for the Canes. The injury hasnt helped him really develop his game this season, as he is just trying to make it through the season.

After an off-season, he will again be ready to learn the craft of being an NFL TE. If he wasnt the physical kind of guy he is, I would be concerned about his blocking deficiencies. I am sure the kid will work at it, if it keeps him on the field more.

He is one guy that is getting a pass from me this season. The way Edwards plays you would think that he didnt have any hands, although he does a pretty good job blocking with those stubs.

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i remember saying "awesome, he is a really good player!"

turns out i was right.


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I think Unck has never been anything except the new Brant Boyer.

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[color:"red"] Versatile Williams: Crennel was asked if the coaching staff has thought about using LB Leon Williams as a pass rusher on the outside in the future.
"He looked pretty good in his first start," he said. "He handled the position pretty well.We?ve talked about the possibility of working him at both spots (inside and outside). He?s a rookie and we needed depth on the inside this year."[/color]


Uhh..YO RAC!
U don't need to put him at OLB to rush him...U can blitz him from his inside spot..and u can put him out there if ya want to..not hard to do..pull McGinest out for a spell..


It actually is a little harder than that. The kid is a rookie and they taught him to play the ILB spot... As we all know, RAC is about being in the right place on defense... you can't just stick him out there at OLB because you feel like it and expect him to do well.... Give him a chance.....


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Winslow isn't a good blocker,earth shattering news.He was rarely asked to block at Miami,and when he tried and failed it wasn't a big deal,therefore he was never schooled on how to block.In his short time in the NFL,most of it has been spent rehabbing,and again he hasn't been taught.
If he believes half of the crap that he spews,then he will take it upon himself to learn,finally,this off-season how to block.He will never be a drive blocker,and shouldn't be asked to become one,that's why Dinkens is here.


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"There are things I can?t do," Winslow said. "I can?t squat. It?s been tough to get strength in my legs."


This tells me that Winlsow needs to be put on the IR now.

Get the surgery, heal up, and get ready for next season and a revamped o-line.

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I think Unck has never been anything except the new Brant Boyer.

not a bad thing. unck wasnt anything of an investment and if he's anywhere near the special teamer that boyer was, we've got a good cog

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"I do what I do to prepare myself to play," Kellen Winslow said. "Whatever the talk is, it?s a way to help me get ready."

Yeah, and it helps THEM (the oponent) get ready too.
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K2 is going to be a very great player in the years to come.. We just have to make sure he stays here.. I would be all for it by letting him sit the rest of the season out, and get a jump on rehab.. I really dont see him breaking any records this year, he didnt do to bad for a half cripled kid.. Let him Rest..

Looks like the Ghost is going to get some air time.. Pretty pumped up about that move, but stinks about Wright.. JH was my dark horse pick of the year.. Kid has skills.. <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Nice to hear about Gary, although I never wnat to see him on the Browns sideline any longer.. It like buying a car with a bent frame from ancident, it never runs right again, and problems begin to mount up <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />


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I just wish Winslow would either shut up...or keep talking but stop explaining to everyone why he talks and just how much he doesn't really mean it...how it's not personal...how much he respects the other guy...blah...blah...blah

And I like the guy.

Hey Kellen...like I tell my kids...do it or don't do it. Pretty simple.

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I'm still really skeptical of K2. He's been dubbed a "Playmaking TE," but all he ever seems to do is catch the ball. I have yet to see him do anything with it after the catch---and isn't that what playmakers are supposed to do--produce after the catch?

He seems to be unable to block too.

Hopefully he'll show something next year.


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Boy, some of the player's MySpace pages are really interesting. Anderson has a few things to say. Did you get a load of who Bodden has on his friends list? Oh well, there's not much to chew on football-wise until Sunday.

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I'm still really skeptical of K2. He's been dubbed a "Playmaking TE," but all he ever seems to do is catch the ball.

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I have yet to see him do anything with it after the catch---and isn't that what playmakers are supposed to do--produce after the catch?

Not as much as I expected, but he has broken tackles and made big plays. We have to remember that teams are scheming to stop him because he is our only big-time weapon. I also think his knee problem is limiting him.

I would like to address the blocking issue. He hasn't done a good job of blocking this year, but again, I think his knee problem is a reason for that. He admitted he can't even squat. Hard to block d-ends and lbers when your leg strength is weak.

I watched him at Miami and he is a better blocker than most give him credit for. And I'll take my eyes over what is written any day of the week.


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[color:"orange"]I think KW2 blocks as well or maybe better than our FB of yesteryears Jim Brown <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

[color:"GOLD"]Even though KW2 has been a Brown for 3 years, this is his first season on the field, with the exception of 2 games his first year.

Technically, Winslow just completed his firs 16 games in the NFL.

The blocking will come but honestly, we have barely scratched the surface when it comes to KW2's potential.

Still trying to find out if Savage extended Winslow contract after motorcycle accident?

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Good read, Focker, thanks.

My two cents: Winslow needs to keep his mouth shut, but unlike Edwards, he's backed it up for the most part. I'm pretty excited to see how he does next year with some rest and strength back into his knee.

As for Baxter, I will be really surprised if this guy ever returns to football, let alone at the level we expected from him. I never thought he was all that great, but he certainly was good enough to start and would have helped our secondary a lot. I hope he gets better, not just for football but for his life after football.

I'll be real interested to see Harrison this weekend. With the way Wright was running, I wonder if Harrison will see that there's some competition for that backup RB spot. I think Harrison has great speed, but he just needs to catch up with the pro game a little.

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