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In reality no team is supposedly allowed to even talk with a player that is under contract elsewhere unless the allowed by the team holding the contract.

Teams have gotten into trouble in the past for even praising a guy too much.

Supposedly the NFL takes tampering really seriously. Not saying back alley conversations don't happen but I suspect they are not the norm.

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They are 100% the norm. Do we think these complex deals get put together in a few hours on the day the league allows negotiations?

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The legal tampering period starts tomorrow. I wanted to get in with a prediction before it begins. I think we’re going to sign a starting safety, starting edge player, and lesser edge player on the first day(ish) of free agency.

This is very important. Thanks for your time.

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While that's true, the NFL actually created what they themselves call "the legal tampering" time frame.

This year that process begins tomorrow.

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March 15th - March 17th: Teams can begin entering contract negotiations with players who will be unrestricted free agents. Qualifying offers to restricted free agents and offers to unrestricted free agents who the team wants to retain should also be made during this stretch. This is otherwise known as the “legal tampering period.”

March 17th: At 4:00 PM ET, free agency officially begins, and teams may begin signing players or trading players who are still under contract. Additionally, all teams must be under the salary cap at this time.

https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2021/2/13/...y-and-the-draft


I believe this rule began back in 2016 but I'm not sure on that. But it's now in the rule book.


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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
The legal tampering period starts tomorrow. I wanted to get in with a prediction before it begins. I think we’re going to sign a starting safety, starting edge player, and lesser edge player on the first day(ish) of free agency.

This is very important. Thanks for your time.


Also tons of one year deals.

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I should hope they are not the norm.

However no one walks into this without some behind the scenes prep work. Teams know what a guy is worth (street value), they know what the current contract looks like. The frame works are pretty well out there.

Guys know what they want, and what they will accept.

Sometimes it takes 5 minutes because one side or the other is just happy with what is presented from the other and it looks good to be done quick.

I would not be surprised to see a team let another team negotiate with someone they know they are losing as a courtesy, or to help ensure they get out of the division at least.

But straight up breaking the rules it's all the rage until one team gets busted and made an example of (bounties on other players during a game) then it cleans up.

Of course it is all speculation since I am neither an agent of a player or someone trying to negotiate with a player's agent earlier than allowed.

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I am aware of the legal tampering period. I am referring to illegal tampering.

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I think you are being naive. When everyone is breaking the rules it doesn’t matter if the rules are being broken.

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This is good for us re-signing Nick Chubb. Jones took a below market deal.

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And now begins the QB Battle of New Orleans. I'm betting on Jameis.

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And now begins the QB Battle of New Orleans. I'm betting on Jameis.



I saw where the Saints just signed Hill to a 4 year, 140 mil contract.

That's pretty steep for a back-up.


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And now begins the QB Battle of New Orleans. I'm betting on Jameis.



I saw where the Saints just signed Hill to a 4 year, 140 mil contract.

That's pretty steep for a back-up.


I was just reading about it because I can't believe how much money they were throwing at him, but it turns out every year is voidable and most of it is minimal guarantees and performance bonuses. Still a pretty amazing paycheck for someone that was undrafted and has been a utility player up to this point.




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Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
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And now begins the QB Battle of New Orleans. I'm betting on Jameis.



I saw where the Saints just signed Hill to a 4 year, 140 mil contract.

That's pretty steep for a back-up.


It's how it is structured that matters......




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So you got some sort of proof then?

Yeah, didn't think so.

I think you are being overly paranoid.

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15


This is good for us re-signing Nick Chubb. Jones took a below market deal.




Even better.


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This is good for us re-signing Nick Chubb. Jones took a below market deal.




Even better.


I say, give Chubb that same contract right now.
Well after the 1st and 2nd wave of free agency


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So you got some sort of proof then?

Yeah, didn't think so.

I think you are being overly paranoid.


I actually care at all and can’t believe this is my third post on the subject.

Anyway:

https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/tom-bradys-case-are-nfl-tampering-rules-made-be-broken

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I like Poole but he's an older guy (will be 29 this year) and he's mostly just been a slot CB. Not sure how Judon fits as he has mostly played OLB in Baltimore's 3-4 defense plus he too is on the older side (will be 29 this year). The interest in Perryman confuses me as again he is older (28) but I don't see him as that much of an upgrade over Goodson.


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I’d bet they’re all willing to take shorter term contracts.

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We may find out today ... but I’m hoping for 2 defensive play makers on short term deals


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
We may find out today ... but I’m hoping for 2 defensive play makers on short term deals


Based on the recent names above, I'd say 3 year deals are tops. Probably 1-2 year deals.


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Well that's a crappy start to the day.

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Baltimore just fixed one of their big weaknesses


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Exactly. No matter how the league defines it, free agency being today at noon.

And I'm looking forward to tweets from Adam Shefter.


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Predictions:

Denzel Perryman
Jadeveon Clowney
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David Njoku gets traded

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crap... that sucks


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I put this here because it isn't a done deal.

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I would very much like us to not sign him.

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
I would very much like us to not sign him.


Yeah, I think of Paul Kruger.....one big year before he hit FA.


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I'd let someone else pay him as well. Feel like he'd be like Hooper. Good player, but he's probably going to get paid more than I'd like.


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Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
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I would very much like us to not sign him.


Yeah, I think of Paul Kruger.....one big year before he hit FA.


Kruger was at least a quality player for us for a few years. I feel like Hendrickson will be less than that.

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