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Clemdawg #1855482 03/29/21 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted By: Clemdawg


One more point, as it pertains to GA: if a board of elections can mobilize to supply voting resources an hour after there is a need, they can mobilize to supply voting resources an hour before there is a need. More polling places: shorter lines, less need for water




I have stated 3 times, in this thread, this, or some derivative of it: "And absolutely, in those areas where people have to wait in line for an extended time, there NEEDS to be more voting machines, without a doubt! I mean, it's not like the long line voting areas are unknown until election day."

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Yes, you have.

But I was addressing the board, not you. Please feel free to discuss this with others on the board. I'm out.


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Clem, I ONLY replied to you because you said basically what I had said - in the point of yours I quoted.

I was ALSO addressing the board. And I few particular people that couldn't,didn't, or won't acknowledge that.

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I don't think that is the main reason why many people leave.


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https://www.npr.org/2020/10/17/924527679...-few-polling-pl

Now suddenly people such as yourself try and convince people that purposefully helped create the problem are actually going to try and fix it?


In a nut shell. It is one giant movement to try to make it harder for one segment of society to vote than another. Denying that is to be deliberately not wanting to find truth.

As someone said - access, ease and time it take to vote should be equal for ALL. Period.


Access should be fairly equal. As for ease and time, that depends on if people in that area volunteer to work the voting places that day and and how prepared the voters are.

The same could be said for the lines at the grocery store, but you know as well as I do there are going to be pitiful managers who don't know how to schedule, or cashiers who aren't very good, or some customer digging around in her purse for the lost coupons then counting out 40 pennies.


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Originally Posted By: Clemdawg
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It is one giant movement to try to make it harder for one segment of society to vote than another.


In the works are over 220 new legislative initiatives to make it more difficult for select groups of the electorate to vote. All in red states.


Iowa has signed into law a voter suppression bill. A lawsuit has signed been filed.



Here are more that are passing through congress in other states (lawsuits will undoubtedly follow if signed into law)...






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Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
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[quote=archbolddawg]

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/17/924527679...-few-polling-pl

Now suddenly people such as yourself try and convince people that purposefully helped create the problem are actually going to try and fix it?


In a nut shell. It is one giant movement to try to make it harder for one segment of society to vote than another. Denying that is to be deliberately not wanting to find truth.

As someone said - access, ease and time it take to vote should be equal for ALL. Period.


Access should be fairly equal. As for ease and time, that depends on if people in that area volunteer to work the voting places that day and and how prepared the voters are.

The same could be said for the lines at the grocery store, but you know as well as I do there are going to be pitiful managers who don't know how to schedule, or cashiers who aren't very good, or some customer digging around in her purse for the lost coupons then counting out 40 pennies.


Your response would seem reasonable - but it avoids the issues of managers who shut down the grocery stores in areas of the state that have more customers who want to vote for the "other" side. The GOP is actively trying to make it harder for sections of the population to vote.


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Lets see where they were shut down or reduced in size, and how inconvenient it is for people to go a few extra miles to vote.

If you have a car, going a few extra miles isn't a big deal. If people don't vote, pretty much wherever the polls are located are likely to be inconvenient. You can't have them on every corner, and I know you don't expect that.

I do agree that if said polls being shut require someone to travel 30 miles or something like that, then that is a problem.

I don't want to bicker on the actual distances. In every place I have lived polls were set up in some school or church, or some combination of both depending on the size of the district.

Were I live it is in a church maybe 5 miles from where I live. That is for election day voting. Some people in my voting precinct might live 10-12 miles away.

Early voting is further apart. There were maybe 3-4 locations set for early voting. For that we had to drive about 15 to get to the nearest.

What about where you live? I will say that if a person lives in a large, sparsely populated place the voting places could be further.


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In my view, I don't want to get into the weeds too far on this issue.

When we focus on Georgia, we focus on a Republican controlled state where the Republican candidates narrowly lost the last election cycle. Now, the Republican controlled government is trying to change the voting laws and procedures. I think that right there tells me what I need to know.


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Still waiting for any liberal on this forum to post something factual about how this bill suppresses voting.

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What is so wrong with;

Here is what day the election takes place?
Here are the times the voting booth is open?

Please register and show your ID and then take a ballot.

It is not hard that is actually pretty simple. In the real world games are played on certain days at certain times. If a team wants to win that game they need to show up on that day at that time. It is not difficult.


I'm guessing there are billions of people outside the borders of the US. Along with many people inside the borders of the US, and even some infiltrated into the political process,
which seek to complicate the process, TO CHEAT!

And the last thing they would want, is
safe, accurate, fair elections.

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I'm guessing there are billions of people outside the borders of the US. Along with many people inside the borders of the US, and even some infiltrated into the political process,
which seek to complicate the process, TO CHEAT!

And the last thing they would want, is
safe, accurate, fair elections.


Well I don't know about Billions - but outside our borders we do know Putin was working hard for his boy Trump and infiltrated our system to cheat and undermine the process. Apparently you are cool with that, which is factual. Meanwhile we've confirmed and verified that fraudulent voting in the election was not significant, yet you prefer to believe fairy tales and children's stories about mass voter fraud.


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Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
I don't think that is the main reason why many people leave.


The timing of the herd thinning seems to suggest otherwise.


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Just proves, Republicans will go to any length to rig all and future elections to their favor. Despicable of the GQP. Party over country.


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Georgia House threatens Delta tax break after CEO slammed new voting restrictions

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/01/politics/georgia-voting-law-house-delta-tax-breaks/index.html?


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Georgia House threatens Delta tax break after CEO slammed new voting restrictions

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/01/politics/georgia-voting-law-house-delta-tax-breaks/index.html?


Georgia is stupid. They should have ignored Delta. Not fight like little kids.

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All talk. Delta has much more influence over them than the reverse. What will they do when Delta threatens to relocate HQ to the former MSP Northwest hub? Cave. That's what.

That's the thing about crony capitalism. It can come back to bite you.


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Georgia House threatens Delta tax break after CEO slammed new voting restrictions

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/01/politics/georgia-voting-law-house-delta-tax-breaks/index.html?


Georgia is stupid. They should have ignored Delta. Not fight like little kids.


It wouldn't surprise me in the least if we find that later, Delta and Coke move HQ's out of Georgia.

You are correct, Georgia was stupid, they never ever should have passed a bill that would allow them to set aside election results if they don't like them.....


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I doubt they move. Especially Delta. No way they replace a hub like Atlanta.


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I don't think they move either, but it's more because I think the legislators' threats against them are false.

Atlanta is their HQ and something like that wouldn't change overnight, of course, but airlines can change their hubs fairly quickly. Cincinnati was the second largest Delta hub before the Northwest merger. A few years afterward, it became a shell of its former self.


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The south is rearing it's ugly head, once again. I honestly thought we grew as a nation.

A little more than a shot across the bow, of democracy.


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Just proves, Republicans will go to any length to rig all and future elections to their favor. Despicable of the GQP. Party over country.

Look in the mirror democrats?

This lie is the exact opposite, it's really what the democrats are doing.

Did this guy just accuse the republicans of doing exactly what the democrats are guilty of.
Shame.

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I am not going to go point by point, but I don't disagree with many of the NYT sticking points.

To me, anything that has to do with proper ID isn't unreasonable.

Having rights also carries responsibility. In my world, if you can't provide proper ID, you shouldn't be able to do much.

If you are against having proper ID to vote, you should be against having to have proper ID to purchase a gun.

Really, how hard is it for people to have proof of identity?

I know the answer, and so do you.


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I doubt they move. Especially Delta. No way they replace a hub like Atlanta.


Moving now after such a disaster year financial year,, No,, probably not.. But like I said, sometime in the future, Maybe.


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Having rights also carries responsibility.


Since you brought up guns. You mean responsibility unless it's a gun. A gun you should just be able to buy and conceal with zero training or classes to know the proper way to handler it. No responsibility needed, right?


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Post civil war, If the north steps on the throat of the south. There is no segregation, no more N bombs, not so much incarceration disparity.

Ironic how the south preaches Jesus, when he would be appalled at your behavior.


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Originally Posted By: BuckDawg1946
Post civil war, If the north steps on the throat of the south. There is no segregation, no more N bombs, not so much incarceration disparity.

Ironic how the south preaches Jesus, when he would be appalled at your behavior.



It's amazing how little you know.


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Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
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Post civil war, If the north steps on the throat of the south. There is no segregation, no more N bombs, not so much incarceration disparity.

Ironic how the south preaches Jesus, when he would be appalled at your behavior.



It's amazing how little you know.


Uht oh... I feel a Q theory coming on. The south never lost that war! All those things are Dems fault. Everything bad comes from the north! smfh

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Post civil war, If the north steps on the throat of the south. There is no segregation, no more N bombs, not so much incarceration disparity.

Ironic how the south preaches Jesus, when he would be appalled at your behavior.



It's amazing how little you know.



No, he had that part correct. The rest is BS.

Uht oh... I feel a Q theory coming on. The south never lost that war! All those things are Dems fault. Everything bad comes from the north! smfh


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What amazes me is how many things people deny.


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Adding snippets from other responses to my quotes now? And not saying anything to defend your stance... in today's lesson we will learn how to avoid the embarrassing truth and make it seem like you are not who you are...

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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
Adding snippets from other responses to my quotes now? And not saying anything to defend your stance... in today's lesson we will learn how to avoid the embarrassing truth and make it seem like you are not who you are...



I may have added the response inside another quote my error. Sorry.

My response agrees, the South lost the war. All the other things He, not you said are BS if you think bigotry would somehow be gone if the north had stomped on the throat..

Things haven't exactly been rosey for black people in any area of the county, either during slavery or after.

Understand?


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If not for the South racism would not be gone from the country, no. But the South has restricted the rate of change within the country to a better place.

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North is just as guilty. It’s been more hidden through institutionalized than outright as the south.

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North is just as guilty. It’s been more hidden through institutionalized than outright as the south.



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After I hit submit, I realized I missed some glaring ones.

Red-lining (which I think you may have wrote about at one point?), how freeways and interstates are made (Toledo is unfortunately a poster child of this as is Los Angeles), and how school districts are formed.

Oh, and the Village of Ottawa Hills...

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