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I see all the usual suspects who don't live in the South are making the ignorant posts about the South. Please do crawl back under your SJW rocks.

The actual fact is the South racial integration is a 1000 times better than the North.

When I grew up in Cleveland it was racial as hell. No black people dared step a foot into my whitey white snobby Cleveland suburb.

In the South, everybody mixes together and gets along. There is not any place in this country who could top the South's racial integration.

You want to say the new laws are somehow racially oppressive, but you refuse to say how. I have asked multiple times. So prove it. It's probably best to look at the fact checkers first before posting your parroted misguided views.

Perhaps people will look to engage you in dialogue when you drop the same tired lines about the south and stop airing your grievances about liberals and SJWs.

Till then, I won’t waste my time.

One that sticks out to me was the late 70's riots in the NE over school bussing. The people in Boston were going crazy.

Oh Sweet Tea, you wouldn't know the real south if it kicked you in the grits. You may live there, but you are and always will be a yank to the people raised there and they will never share their real secrets with you.

That said, I would agree with you that the south is "more integrated" in many ways, but that doesn't change the Jim Crow laws designed to keep POC from voting in huge 'election swinging' numbers. And the explanations are all through this thread, you just didn't read them or grasp the meaning or something... And I've thrown all my SJW rocks at bigots so there are none left to 'crawl under'...

There is some embarrassment going on, but it's not on him. Someone tried to basically argue that all racism in this country comes from the South, and had the North 'stepped on their throat' (?) then we wouldn't have the racism issue we have today. This is as ridiculous as it is incorrect.

You live in Atlanta, which is nothing at all like the rest of rural GA ... and is not representative of the "South" at all. I live in the "south" also. And have travelled all over and spoken to people from all walks of life. If you want to argue that Bama and Mississippi are bastions of racial equity compared to anywhere in the "North" you'd be lying to yourself as well as every member on this board. Comparing Atlanta to one slice of Cleveland ... not exactly an all encompassing perspective. Not only that - but the conversation very much focused on past not present.

I see a lot of feelings and not any facts from the lefties.

Also, lmao

You really need to get the people you stan for, Eve.

Here is Crenshaw being a racist bigot.

Please research those you stan for. Perhaps then people here will take you seriously, but I surmise you’ll keep up with spouting off of the aggrieved things SJWs and liberals bother you about. How dare you have to read facts and sourced information rather then get triggered by emotions you feel!

Yeah, the whole bussing thing was idiotic. Bunch of not in my backyard idiots showing their racist behinds.

Bussing should be a thing today. Schools are more segregated now than before Brown v. Board.

It doesnt make him wrong.

You voted for Hilary. She labeled black people as super predators. Perhaps you should research the people you stan for.

I didn’t vote in 2016.

So...youre responsible for Trump. Live with that.

lol

I mean he’ll be spending the rest of his life in Rikers once the SDNY gets finished with him.

Unlike a large portion of those who are similar to you, I’ve moved on from the fascist.

I'd be willing to bet more people here take Eve seriously than they do you.

Dude,you go around mocking people for their links and you post that nonsense? Be better.

Apparently I live rent free in a ton of heads considering the likes that posts get when people take the “LeT’s Go TrY aNd OwN rOcKeT!1!1!1!1!1”!” method rather than like...you know, trying to refute the claims I back up with pure factual information.

Take a stab, JFan. Please share where I’m wrong and Eve is right with her views on racism and what’s happening in Georgia.

Not sure what’s wrong about what I posted?

There’s verifiable proof that Crenshaw is a xenophobic hack.

We're not the same people who "feel" the elections were stolen without any facts. We're also not the ones who "feel" blaming the other side of cancel culture while calling for things like boycotts on the NFL, MLB, the NBA, Nike and the list goes on doesn't sound stupid.

Are those the kind of "feelings" you're talking about?

I highly doubt that one. Eve never actually posts anything of substance or even attempts to provide any links. All she does it throw around GOP hack lines and plays the "own the libs" card.

I sometimes don't agree with some of the things Rocket posts but at least he uses sources to try and bolster his claims. That's at least an earnest effort. More than I can say for Eve.

.. The other day, someone took a ball and threw it and the dog brought it back, they were playing fetch.

( Sits back and waits for Pit to try and explain to us all what was really going on.)

I think our experiences are different.

The problem with sources is either you agree with them or you don't.
As an example, I don't consider the NYT a reliable source when it comes to political reporting. It's a left leaning, communist infiltrated newspaper as far as I am concerned.

Now, that is my opinion. Your opinion may be opposite of mine. Sources I agree with might be viewed as garbage by you and others.

That is why I say I don't pay much attention to links in this forum. I don't need to open and read links by certain posters. I already know what they are going to say.

Peen is surrounded by commies everywhere! smh

If anyone is a leftist, if anyone is a democratic party voter. If anyone is someone who Hates Trump or Republican ideas.

I invite you, to learn some history of the nation of Liberia in west Africa.

What you will see, what you will learn is the ideas you support, implemented there, are just as bad as what you would hope to do here in America.

And yet there is no end to the number of lives the left wishes to ruin.

All Americans should do a crash course on the history of Liberia, which is an America created, funded, built, small country full of the ideas which we seek to limit.
When we seek to limit the control the democrats are trying to take of your life.

There's a difference between living rent free in somebody's head and serving up softballs to be blasted out of the park. Come on, man. When you're arrogant enough to tell someone that they're not respected in this carnival of a forum, what do you expect?

Crenshaw is what he is. That doesn't mean he's wrong about his comparison of the requirements to vote and to fly.

What's wrong about what you posted is you didn't address what was said, rather who said it. That's a tactic that's generally employed when one can't argue the point at hand (attack the messenger vs the message).

Yeah, it would have been better to say something more on point. My retorts:

A) Do they ban airlines from handing out food and beverage to people in inordinately long lines waiting to get on the plane?

or

B) is the right to fly considered to be as fundamental as the right to vote?

Whenever I argue with people and they get personal, I just assume it’s over.

OMG, dude, did a communist try to take your lunch money or something???

(It’s a joke)

Georgia is doing everything all wrong. They don't seem to realize that improving the ease and access to voting only decreases our sense of equal protection.

You cannot make it equally easy for everyone. There will always be people lucky enough to live close to the polling place and other who have to live several miles away.

The solution is actually to make voting more inconvenient for everyone so that our relative differences in location, wealth, and other things no longer seem so significant. So here is a proposed solution.

First, get rid of any mail in voting. It's too convenient. Voting must take place between 1 AM and 5 AM. Bottles of water must be provided at the polling place and every voter must consume 1 liter of water. Then, every voter must walk on a treadmill for 3 miles. Every voter is required to wait a minimum of 3 hours, regardless of line size. Use of restrooms will not be permitted.

So much bickering when it all could be resolved so easily. Oregon has it right. No lines. Equal access. All you need is a mailing address and a pen.
Enjoy your waterless lines I guess.

No. I wasn't the kid taking the money, but nobody ever tried to take mine.

Why pick a backwater country filled with corruption?

Why not pick any one of the European countries with policies left of where the Democrats are? You know, those countries that are higher on the lists of Education, Healthcare, Quality of Life, Happiness ???? All those countries are much better examples.

Get out of here with your fake, contrived comparisons.

Here's the problem. Most all national news sources use quotes from actual people. They use national numbers from actual U.S. statistics. There are sources that I often times don't agree with which way they lean politically but I still look at what they have to say. The reason I do that is to look at who they quote and what was said. I filter out the rhetoric and look at the facts presented.

I'm not going to use the rights version of cancel culture. "I don't agree with their politics so I'll just label them as fake, as communists or unreliable. Which allows me to stick my fingers in my ears and only listen to the things I agree with and what I want to hear."

And nobody set up the school lunch program to where you had to stand in line for six hours to get your lunch either.

Here are a few of my thoughts on the subject.

The Georgia bill is a "sour grapes" response by the GOP to address issues that never happened. The sum total of the changes are to limit voting, and that is not a good thing. You are either for voting, and if you appear to be against it, the crap is going to hit the fan if you are in a Southern state because of past practices. As the GOP Secretary of State noted, there was no evidence of mass voter fraud in the election. So the GOP passed a bill looking for a problem that did not exist. I view the change in who can disqualify votes by the legislature particularly problematic, and it will probably be fought in the court.

Please refrain from any comparison to flying or driving or any other privileges where ID is required. If you need a comparison, the only applicable comparison is gun laws. Voting laws and gun laws have to reflect the underlying right. We know where Georgia is on gun laws, (see Atlanta shooting) and if you need a mind bending experience try to rationalize the left/right divide between how those are handled.

Leveraging business to become involved in voting issues is something that I would prefer not to see. It is a result of the post-Citizens United political world where the Supreme Court has provided corporations the right of free speech. If they want free speech that is fine, but it is highly inconsistent that corporations are under a different tax umbrella as the individual. Corporation are people, except they are not.

There is a lot of inconsistency in the political world of today that needs cleaned up. That is unlikely to happen with the partisan divide.

I think you hit the nail squarely and unequivocally on the head. Most especially about the 'addressing a problem that never happened'.

I guess what it may also do - for any complete Muppets that still think the election was stolen - it may create the illusion that something happened and that the GOP are addressing that issue.

It’s funny how the republicans have been whining about cancel culture, and yet here they are, now trying to cancel MLB.

And let's not forget the NFL, the NBA, Nike, Harley Davidson and the list goes on and on.

Speech is only free when you agree with them.

j/c

After new Georgia voting law, McConnell warns CEOs: ‘Stay out of politics’

WASHINGTON (AP) — Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell says it’s a “big lie” to call the new voting law in Georgia racist and he warned big business to “stay out of politics” after major corporations and Major League Baseball distanced themselves from the state amid vast public pressure.

McConnell particularly slammed President Joe Biden’s criticism that the Georgia bill was restrictive and a return to Jim Crow-era restrictions in the Southern states aimed limiting ballot access for Black Americans.

“It’s simply not true,” McConnell told reporters Monday.

The choice by the GOP leader to dive into voting politics lends heft to efforts nationwide to install strict new voting laws after Donald Trump’s false claims of fraud that cost him the election to Biden. The new laws are aimed at scaling back early vote and other options that became wildly popular during the pandemic.

Even more, McConnell’s warning to big business not to get involved shows the scramble Republicans face as progressive groups are shining a spotlight on corporate America to live up to its brands and values as Congress takes on voting rights, gun violence and other issues.

The Republican leader has been among the most outspoken champions of the role of big money in elections, promoting the free-flow of undisclosed dollars to campaigns as a form of Constitution-protected free speech.

But companies temporarily halted giving to many Republicans after the deadly Jan. 6 Capitol siege, when the former president urged like supporters to fight for him and hundreds stormed the Capitol.

Speaking in Kentucky, McConnell said Monday it’s simply “not accurate” to say the Georgia law is making it more difficult to vote.

McConnell also criticized Biden for criticizing the law, saying the president’s claims had been fact-checked as false.

“The President has claimed repeatedly that state-level debates over voting procedures are worse than Jim Crow or ‘Jim Crow on steroids.’ Nobody actually believes this,” McConnell said in a lengthy statement earlier Monday.

“Nobody really thinks this current dispute comes anywhere near the horrific racist brutality of segregation.”

The new law shortens the time frame between primary and general elections, which also narrows the options for early voting. To counter the popular “souls to the polls” events at Black churches on Sundays, the law now requires two Saturdays for voting. It makes it a misdemeanor to hand out food, drink or other benefits to voters waiting in long lines at polling stations.

McConnell more pointedly warned the big business that have been responding to public pressure on their corporate actions not to give in to the advocacy campaigns.

“It’s jaw-dropping to see powerful American institutions not just permit themselves to be bullied, but join in the bullying themselves,” he said.

Last week, Delta, Coca-Cola and other companies spoke critically of the new law in Georgia and baseball announced it was moving the all-star game from the state.

McConnell warned companies not to get involved in voting issues or other upcoming debates on environmental policy or gun violence heading to Congress.

https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/a...t-of-politics/?

Threats to businesses for expressing their political opinions? Hmmmm....