Hand sanitizer isn’t oil. It’s alcohol. It’s used widely in healthcare. I use it regularly. Daily. Actually multiple times daily. There are many times that washing hands isn’t much of an option. Lets just say I’ve been in patient’s homes where washing my hands in their sink seems far less sanitary than hand sanitizing in my car.
Been in some public restrooms where using a tree outside was more sanitary.
No doubt. As a community nurse I spend all day driving around the city seeing patients. When COVID hit my options for places to stop to use a bathroom dried up. There are days I spend seeing home clients and holding my bladder all day for the lack of sanitary places to relieve myself. It can be brutal.
A large portion of the U.S. population still doesn’t want to get the new Covid vaccine, but they might not have a choice. Powers at the federal and state level, not to mention the legal rights granted to employers under U.S. labor law, may make it impossible for Americans to escape inoculation against the coronavirus.
No vaccine, no life outside the trailer park. lmao
A growing number of US colleges and universities are requiring students to get Covid-19 vaccinations
As colleges and universities nationwide make plans to welcome back students in the fall, a growing number have announced they will require all students to be fully vaccinated against Covid-19 before returning to campus. So far, at least 14 colleges have said vaccinations will be required, according to a CNN tally -- and that number is expected to grow. Universities have been implementing vaccination policies since late March, when Rutgers University in New Brunswick, New Jersey, became one of the first to say that having all students vaccinated will allow for an "expedited return to pre-pandemic normal," making more in-person classes possible, as well as more on-campus events that will be allowed.
"This health policy update means that, with limited exceptions, all students planning to attend in the Fall 2021 semester must be fully vaccinated," a statement from Rutgers president Jonathan Holloway said, adding that proof of vaccination will be required.
Rutgers faculty and staff members are also being strongly urged to get vaccinated, but the statement did not say that it was required for them.
Cornell, Brown, the University of Notre Dame, Northeastern, Syracuse University and Ithaca in New York and Fort Lewis College in Colorado have since made similar announcements, though all will make exceptions for medical or religious reasons.
Here's what universities are telling students, staff Cornell anticipates all members of the university community will be vaccinated in the spring or summer.
Individuals who are not able to be vaccinated prior to their arrival to campus, "will be expected to be vaccinated as soon after their arrival as possible, and Cornell is investigating ways to facilitate this process," a statement from the university said.
Cornell has also created an online registration COVID-19 Proof of Vaccination tool, so students and staff can register their vaccination status.
Brown University said in its announcement that it plans to return to a schedule of "mostly in-person operations" when the fall semester begins, and will require the Covid-19 vaccine for any student who will be on campus.
"Our plans to loosen current limitations on in-person activities for Fall 2021 are based on achieving a high level of immunity among students and employees who will be on campus," said University President Christina Paxson in a statement.
In a message sent to the university community on Thursday, Syracuse University said vaccines will be required for all students faculty, and staff on campus before the Fall 2021 semester.
Notre Dame will require all undergraduate, graduate, and professional students to be vaccinated, but did not specify whether it will also be required of faculty and staff.
Ithaca College said in a statement Wednesday that the Covid-19 vaccine will allow a fall semester that will "resemble a pre-pandemic "normal," with a greatly reduced risk of infection for our campus community."
Northeastern is also planning to be fully reopened by the fall for all students to return and for all classes to resume in-person.
"We expect to be back fully in-person at regular occupancy, including fully in-person teaching, and normal occupancy in residence halls and dining facilities," said Ken Henderson, chancellor and senior vice president for learning at Northeastern.
Roger Williams University in Bristol, Rhode Island, which was one of the first schools to shut its campus at the beginning of the coronavirus pandemic last March, will now require students to enter their proof of vaccination through an online portal.
Two universities are requiring staff to be vaccinated Two universities, St. Edward's University in Austin, Texas, and Nova Southeastern University (NSU) in Broward, Florida, are going a step further, requiring students and all campus employees to be vaccinated, saying they have a responsibility to provide a safe learning environment for students, faculty and staff.
"The University's focus during the COVID-19 pandemic remains the health and safety of our students, faculty, staff, and guests upon the Hilltop," St. Edward's University said in its statement. "The University also recognizes that the community health standards implemented on the Hilltop impact the greater Austin community."
In its April 1 announcement, NSU said "with the extra protection of widespread vaccination, the NSU community will be able to resume more activities and operations sooner, leading to a more engaged educational and professional experience."
Since the announcement, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed an executive order saying that vaccines are available but not mandated, and prohibited any government entity or business from requiring a vaccine passport.
On Thursday, NSU posted an update that it is now reviewing the executive order and how it relates to its vaccine requirements.
"Additionally, the President's Office has been hearing from the NSU community in the past few days -- some expressing support and others sharing your questions and concerns. All of this is being considered thoughtfully and we will have more details for you by next week," a statement from the university said.
Got my JJ shot Thursday, had general side effects Thursday night until Friday evening.. I would plan a light work day, the day after you get your shot/second shot.
I applaud every American getting the vaccine, you directly help our cause to get back to normality. If zero Americans got the vaccine, we would be stuck in a prolonged cycle of death.
25-30% of Americans choosing not be vaccinated was to be expected. I just hope that 30%, at some point, realizes what we are doing for them.
Some people see it as their patriotic duty. A war doesn't have to be fought with guns and bombs. Having an enemy that has killed over half a million Americans is something every patriotic American should be uniting to fight for all of us.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
No, I stayed awake. If I did look to be nodding off, a jab in the ribs by a parent took care of that.
I have seen conflicting reports. Does getting the vaccine prevent us from spreading the virus?
My basic understanding is the vaccine doesn't prevent us from getting the virus. It mitigates the impact the virus has on us. We can still get sick, just not as sick, or maybe not sick at all.
We also are being urged to keep wearing masks when in public, washing hands, practice distancing, etc. If we can't infect others after being vaccinated, why do we need to do that? We should be good to go. No?
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
To answer all your questions, we need more data on infection and shedding the virus if vaccinated, and we need more people (in this case, those who lean red) to get the vaccine before we drop mandates.
To answer all your questions, we need more data on infection and shedding the virus if vaccinated, and we need more people (in this case, those who lean red) to get the vaccine before we drop mandates.
Thanks. I do understand the whole situation is fluid, and will probably remain as such for a good number of years.
We might differ somewhat on people leaning red. I would say most of my friends lean red, but not by as large a margin as you and others might think. All that i know of have received the vaccine, but in the end that is their decision. I mean afterall, it is mostly an experimental vaccine at this point.
If I was a younger man, I might resist as well. If it does screw you up long term, I figure my long term isn't as long term as yours might be. The largest surges at this point seem to be in blue states. I am not pointing that out to say your point isn't valid. I mostly agree with you on those who seem to be resistant to getting the vaccination. I am just wondering why that is, though I understand that in a month or two, things could flip.
I guess to sum up, my point is I don't think we need to be pointing fingers at anyone on this matter because even our "experts" don't know what the heck is going to happen tomorrow let alone 1-2-3 years down the road. Nobody really knows and that is why IMO we (as in the group) have such divergent views on the matter.
My feeling is this is going to be here a long while, like maybe forever. The positive is that after much "practicing" of medicine and thousands dead, we seem to have a better grasp on what seems to work the best after all that practice. Fewer people are kicking the bucket, so that is a good thing.
Practice makes perfect, they say.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
This is what happens when you use "Well in my neck of the woods" type thinking. Your experience doesn't seem close to what's actually going on across the country....
49 percent of GOP men say they won't get vaccinated: PBS poll
The same basic story is being reported everywhere. I know you don't "do links" because it may present you with a truth you don't want to believe or hear, but just in case you actually wish to be informed I thought I would try to help you out.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
This is what happens when you use "Well in my neck of the woods" type thinking. Your experience doesn't seem close to what's actually going on across the country....
49 percent of GOP men say they won't get vaccinated: PBS poll
The same basic story is being reported everywhere. I know you don't "do links" because it may present you with a truth you don't want to believe or hear, but just in case you actually wish to be informed I thought I would try to help you out.
It’s the old ‘I had a big dinner, therefore there’s no hunger in Africa’ mentality.
I understand it. People look around themselves and that's their reality. Their environment impacts their version of reality. It's often times quite uncomfortable looking outside of that box you live in. I get it.
More and more our society only wishes to view the things that go along with their line of thinking. We now have news outlets that will cater to whatever view of reality it is you wish to see and believe. The truth no longer matters.
I'll use my wife as an example. She's a big fan of what I consider to be the most left leaning media source on TV. MSNBC. I'll hear the TV in the background and she'll get all worked up after one of their reporters carries on about something for a minute.
Then I feel the need to point out to her what they actually said compared to what it is they want you to think they said. I point out to her that they are catering to a certain audience by trying to reinforce those beliefs rather than give her information. She is learning to separate their opinions from the actual information and facts presented. She is starting to listen to more varied news sources.
I don't in any way think this entire "listening to what I want to hear" is restricted to those on the right or those on the left. It's an ever growing problem by both sides that only act to even further divide our country.
When I was a kid we had four channels to watch on TV. The expansion of channels, information and sources at our fingertips can be a wonderful thing. But as it stands it has also become something both sides of the political spectrum have used as a weapon.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
This is what happens when you use "Well in my neck of the woods" type thinking. Your experience doesn't seem close to what's actually going on across the country....
49 percent of GOP men say they won't get vaccinated: PBS poll
The same basic story is being reported everywhere. I know you don't "do links" because it may present you with a truth you don't want to believe or hear, but just in case you actually wish to be informed I thought I would try to help you out.
They never called me, so they didn't talk to every Republican male, so 49% of the people they talked to said they wouldn't.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
This is what happens when you use "Well in my neck of the woods" type thinking. Your experience doesn't seem close to what's actually going on across the country....
49 percent of GOP men say they won't get vaccinated: PBS poll
The same basic story is being reported everywhere. I know you don't "do links" because it may present you with a truth you don't want to believe or hear, but just in case you actually wish to be informed I thought I would try to help you out.
They never called me, so they didn't talk to every Republican male, so 49% of the people they talked to said they wouldn't.
Only when saying that suits your purpose. Would you like to look at several others that show pretty much the same result or is your mind so set in one direction you would ignore those too?
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
In the end, no because I don't care. People are free to do what they want.
I read that 40% of the Marines have refused the vaccine. Listening to WTAM the other night they said 30% of the Cavs have elected to get the vaccine when offered by the team.
We live in a free society.
I understand that communists either make things mandatory or banned, but we are free to choose.
I may not agree with the choice they made, but I agree with their right to make that choice. I made my choice, so I am covered if the info is correct.
I choose to get a flu shot every year. Many people don't. If they get sick and die, what are you going to do?
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
Personal feeedoms only impact that person. When you think your personal freedom includes possibly causing others to get sick and possibly die, you no longer understand the concept of personal feeedoms.
Your choice is only your choice when it only impacts you. This doesn't.
It seems you understand less than you thought you did.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Personal feeedoms only impact that person. When you think your personal freedom includes possibly causing others to get sick and possibly die, you no longer understand the concept of personal feeedoms.
Your choice is only your choice when it only impacts you. This doesn't.
It seems you understand less than you thought you did.
Hmmmm, so it is kind of like abortion. Ok, I agree with you.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
I'm against abortion as a personal choice for my family. My daughter was born when I and her mother were quite young. But that choice doesn't risk the lives of other Americans. The people I pass in the grocery store who have nothing to do with my family are in no way impacted.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
We all engage in activities and make choices that put others at additional risk or put others at less risk. In fact, in a world with finite resources, our very existence can pose a threat to others. Our actions now certainly pose a threat to future generations when we look at how we treat the environment.
If you drive a car, generate waste, use social media, or watch football, then you are engaging in an activity that could contribute to some sort of risk to someone else.
I have gotten my first dose of vaccine and plan to get my second this coming week. I don't feel that others should be obligated to get the shots for my benefit. It is their choice at this point as far as I am concerned. They have the most to lose.
I'm against abortion as a personal choice for my family. My daughter was born when I and her mother were quite young. But that choice doesn't risk the lives of other Americans. The people I pass in the grocery store who have nothing to do with my family are in no way impacted.
It impacts a life.
That aside, if you have your vaccine, you have nothing to worry about. If your family gets vaccinated, they have nothing to worry about.
All you can really do is take care of your own business.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
How can you require people to to get a vaccination injected into them that hasn't completed full clinical trials and been fully released by the FDA?
This is a legal poopstorm in the making.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
My basic understanding is the vaccine doesn't prevent us from getting the virus. It mitigates the impact the virus has on us.
If We believe the numbers posted, and as I've posted about 25+ times in 3 or 4 threads, the number to that said day over the last few/several months, one trend again if we believe the numbers, that is undeniable
is the number of cases dropped after the and not until the proliferation of the vaccines' distribution.
The ratio of active cases to the percentage of them resulting in death didn't change as vastically.
The most drastic drops were, new positive tests per day, then deaths per day.
And as everbody was already distancing, masking, sanitizing, and quarantining, with nothing but increasing impact of the virus, until the onset of the vaccine; I think the evidence is overwhelming, and in our face, That the vaccine prevents us from getting the virus, at least as much as it mitigates the impact the virus has on us. If one believes the numbers. Edit: and to clarify, by cases I meant positive tests recorded.
Miami Herald Miami private school Centner Academy won’t employ vaccinated teachers, staff Colleen Wright, Daniel Chang
Mon, April 26, 2021, 7:36 PM·6 min read
A private school with two campuses in Miami has warned its staff against taking vaccines that prevent COVID-19, saying it will not employ anyone who has been inoculated and spreading misinformation about the potential risks of vaccination.
Centner Academy, with campuses in the Design District and Edgewater, informed parents of its policy for teachers and staff by email on Monday. The announcement, first reported by the New York Times, left some parents, teachers and medical experts aghast because it was presented as fact without citing any scientific evidence.
Leila Centner, who co-founded the school with husband David Centner, warned that vaccinated persons “may be transmitting something from their bodies” that could harm others, particularly the “reproductive systems, fertility, and normal growth and development in women and children.”
Centner acknowledged in the email that the information is “new and yet to be researched.” Still, she asked employees who have not taken a COVID vaccine to wait until the end of the school year. She also recommended that faculty and staff hold off on taking the injection “until there is further research available on whether this experimental drug is impacting unvaccinated individuals.”
“It is our policy, to the extent possible, not to employ anyone who has taken the experimental COVID-19 injection until further information is known,” Centner wrote in the email to parents.
Centner Academy was incorporated in 2018, state records show. The school has about 300 students and charges $30,000 a year in tuition for middle school, according to information provided on its website, centneracademy.com.
An emailed statement to the Herald lists concerns related to the vaccine but does not back up the claims with scientific evidence or peer-reviewed research, only links to unofficial websites that purport to track deaths related to the vaccine.
“We know not everyone agrees on this topic, but this is our philosophy at Centner Academy, one in which many of our teachers and parents share,” the statement read. Leila Centner did not reply to direct requests for comment.
Centner last week told faculty and staff in a letter that she made the decision to adopt the new policy with a “very heavy heart.” She listed reasons rooted in misinformation about why the vaccine is dangerous. She added that she was “compelled to take action.”
‘Health Freedom’
“I believe strongly in Health Freedom and “my body, my choice” and for that reason, did not prevent employees from choosing to take the COVID-19 vaccine prior to April 21, 2021,” she wrote. “However, reports have surfaced recently of non-vaccinated people being negatively impacted by interacting with people who have been vaccinated.”
Centner asked staff who had already taken the vaccine to report that to the school and maintain physical distance from students. She also required all employees to disclose the information by completing a confidential form.
Spreading misinformation about COVID vaccines without citing scientific evidence or even quoting a medical expert can diminish much of the messaging behind the measures that public health officials have taken to try and control the spread of the virus, said Dr. Aileen Marty, a physician and infectious disease specialist with Florida International University’s Wertheim College of Medicine.
Marty said she read the email to parents and found it “very sad.” Because it was written by the school’s co-founder, Marty said, parents might assume the statements are supported by science when there is no evidence that individuals who receive a COVID vaccine pose a risk of “transmitting something from their bodies” that would harm others.
“It gives the illusion that she’s basing it on facts,” Marty said of the letter, “but there’s not one citation, there’s not one physician or scientist whose name is spelled out in there. There’s no references. There’s nothing. There is no scientific evidence provided. Rumor is the only thing that’s there, and if you look at the reality, there’s zero, zero science behind those allegations.”
Marty added that unfounded statements such as those circulated in the letter can create a ripple effect of ignorance with the potential to undo much of the work that public health officials are doing to control the spread of the virus.
“If they believe it, and they then share this big lie, it has a horrific impact on our entire community,” she said.
COVID-19 continues to spread in Florida. The health department reported more than 3,500 new cases of the disease Monday, including more than 760 in Miami-Dade. Nearly 770,000 people have been fully vaccinated in the county.
Spreading misinformation
As new infections, hospitalizations and deaths due to the disease have surged and dipped statewide since the pandemic began in spring 2020, the school’s leaders have bucked preventive measures recommended by public health officials, a past employee of the school said.
A former teacher at Centner Academy told the Miami Herald in September that there was very little social distancing and wearing of masks, if any, among staff members while a mandatory mask order was in place in Miami-Dade County. The teacher said Leila Centner circulated misinformation about coronavirus and masks in group chats among teachers.
In the email to parents Monday, Leila Centner noted that the school was one of the first to reopen for in-person learning on Sept. 8, 2020. “We weighed the data and studied the research,” she wrote in the letter. “We knew then that children have a 99.9974% survival rate and are not super spreaders.”
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported in January that less than 0.1% of children 17 years old and younger died of COVID-19 between March 1 and Dec. 12, 2020.
Since the reopening, the school has experienced a shakeup among teachers and administrators.
United Teachers of Dade President Karla Hernandez-Mats slammed “education labor violations” at Centner Academy.
“These schools not only teach misinformation and peddle propaganda, they punish teachers who try to protect themselves and their families,” she said. “We are horrified by the unsafe conditions and labor violations that colleagues at schools such as this one have to endure due to lack of union representation and contract rights.”
Leila and David Centner moved from New York back to Miami, David’s hometown, to raise their two daughters. David Centner, who graduated from Coral Park Senior High and worked at Frankie’s Pizza, and his wife Leila, a businesswoman, made their fortune by selling their company, Highway Toll Administration, for an undisclosed amount.
Unsatisfied with the schooling options available locally, they opened Centner Academy in the Design District in 2019 as the first “Happiness School.” The school’s website prominently displays: “MEDICAL FREEDOM FROM MANDATED VACCINES.”
The school charges from $15,160 for part-time Pre-K 2 and $24,500 a year for K-5th grades. The Pre-K campus is housed at the original location in the Design District and the Elementary & Middle School campus is in the former ASPIRA charter school location.
The couple said several students from the surrounding neighborhood attend the school on scholarship. The school also offers teachers a chance to live in homes near the school and owned by the Centners for reduced rent.
The school has a chiropractor on staff to give adjustments to students and staff and practices meditation among students with the use of crystals.
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