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Maybe but signing clowney makes the DE room a lot better now!!

I think this FO sees Clowney as more of a rotational player. I don't see his signing as a fix for the position and I think when comparing what he will get paid compared to other edge rushers in the league the money will show that to be the case.

I'm certainly not opposed to us drafting a CB. It would be a great addition. The thing is we don't know what we don't know. I think between six to eight million per year makes Clowney a contributor, not an answer.

My point is that I don't see the signing of Clowney precluding us from drafting an edge rusher in round one. Not that we will.

It will be interesting to see the contract details for Clowney. Particularly the length of the deal. If its multi-year then obviouly there is somewhat less pressing need to sign DE early. I suspect it will be a one year deal.

You may be right, I think if Jaelen Phillips is available, yes, they will take him despite signing Clowney, I believe (JMO) that Phillips is heads above all the other Pass Rushers and we can grab one in rd. two if we grab a CB ...

I said the samething in an ealier post.

There have been a few of us saying it.

I've come around to Phillips also. But I still got a man crush on Ronnie Perkins if Phillops is off the board and we take another position in round one.

There are a lot of ways to make this a successful draft. It's exciting!

If he is the best player on our board, no doubt. If a OG is the best player on the board, draft him.

It could if the drafting of the DE before was leaning towards need. If we don't need the player to make immediate impact, we could now sway away if better overall players are available.

I have a feeling that if the Browns don't sign Clowney, no one will because we have shown the most interest.

Or whomever inks him down the road, will more than likely get him at a reduced price. For like you stated, seems like the offer is high enough to keep Clowney back and forth to Cleveland.

Is he here, yet?

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this thread was in the draft forum as late as Tuesday evening. it got moved, but likely after tab's post.

Wonder who’s gonna be hurt more, Clowney or Vernon.

Interesting point in this article is that the result of Clowney's meniscus surgery was estimated to put him out until mid-April (now) as far as being able to pass a physical.

https://www.si.com/nfl/browns/browns-maven-features/jadeveon-clowney-contract-complications

Done deal

Interesting to see the figures

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1-year deal on Clowney

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#Browns and Jadeveon Clowney reached agreement on a 1-year deal worth somewhere in the $10M range, per
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. Cleveland will now have bookend No. 1 overall picks at defensive end with Clowney and Garrett.

“Up to” is the key phrase. I want the real numbers.

Sure, but ultimately being a one year deal means regardless of the cost it won’t hurt us going forward. We’ll come in under the 2021 cap and still have money to extend players going into 2022.
I’m not going to get hung up on the numbers in this case. (Not that you are. But other’s surely will.)

I wouldn't trade Richardson for Clowney if that's what happens. If they can make it work with both then great but if it's a choice of one of the other no way what I have signed Clowney.

Now if we have to cut Richardson (insanity) to get Clowney, I’ll be upset.
No way I see that happening.

It looks like we may take a bit off of Richardson.

The deal for Clowney isn’t bad. I don’t think it’s a home run. But 1 year deal for 8 million doesn’t strap us

There are a number of players we can restructure if we need to make space. It would be pure stupidity to cut Richardson; it's not happening.

j/c:

Browns sign 3-time Pro Bowl pass rusher Jadeveon Clowney

Former No. 1 overall pick gives the Browns another option off the edge

Apr 14, 2021 at 01:04 PM

Andrew Gribble
Senior Staff Writer

The Browns added more experience, depth and talent at the defensive end position with the signing of Jadeveon Clowney.

Clowney, a three-time Pro Bowl selection, comes to Cleveland after spending the 2020 season with the Tennessee Titans. The eight-year veteran joins Takkarist McKinley as the second major addition to the Browns' group of pass rushers since the start of the new league year.

"We're excited to add Jadeveon to our defensive line," Browns coach Kevin Stefanski said. "He's a disruptive force that will help us against the run and the pass. We've been able to make some nice additions to our defense throughout free agency and we are looking forward to getting to work, so we can improve our team."

Clowney, the No. 1 overall pick in the 2014 NFL Draft by the Houston Texans, has racked up 32 sacks over seven seasons, though two of those years were significantly shortened by injuries. Clowney made three consecutive Pro Bowls from 2016-18, a stretch in which he averaged more than eight sacks per season and delivered a combined 59 hits on the quarterback. Clowney also earned second-team All-Pro recognition in 2016, his first of four consecutive seasons in which he started in double-digit games.

"Jadeveon's had a very productive career since 2014. We love his relentless style of play," Browns EVP of Football Operations and GM Andrew Berry said. "He's one of the more disruptive players in the game and we think he's going to add an element of ruggedness along our defensive line and will pair nicely with many of the guys we have on the roster already. The other thing we love about Jadeveon is his versatility, his ability to play all across the front and impact the game regardless of his alignment."

Clowney spent his first five seasons with the Texans before joining the Seahawks via trade in 2019. He registered his first pick-six and posted the second-best defensive grade of his career (87.3), according to Pro Football Focus' rankings, over 13 games.

This past season in Tennessee, Clowney appeared and started in eight games before his season was ended prematurely by a knee injury. Though he didn't collect a sack, Clowney brought consistent pressure — 69.6 pass rush grade from Pro Football Focus — knocked down four passes and posted six hits on the quarterback.

"Jadeveon's play-to-play impact on the game, whether it's the run game as a rusher, lined up as a three-technique or lined up as an end, is something we really value," Berry said. "We think he'll really be beneficial for us in our defensive system."

Clowney, a Rock Hill, S.C., native, was one of the highest-ranked recruits to ever play at the University of South Carolina. The two-time All-American and two-time first-team All-SEC selection is one of four DEs to be selected with the No. 1 pick since 2000.

https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/browns-sign-3-time-pro-bowl-pass-rusher-jadeveon-clowney

Only the Top 51 salaries will count.
Most of the rookies, even with signing bonuses, will slide in under that. The ones that go over will only add the difference in relation to the salary they knock off the list.

Besides that, doing a new contract with Njoku can get a lot of room, and Bitonio, Tretter, Landry, and Richardson are all great candidates for a restructure.



We are 1000% ALL-IN on winning it all this year, though.
Sheldon is in his last year and we have a ton of guys on one year deals ahead of the big deals hitting for Baker, Ward, etc... we have more guys on 1-year deals or in their last year than we can Draft replacements for.

I like the signing. Reasonable deal financially with potentially great upside.

Richardson should not necessarily be the primary target of restructuring. I'd consider OBJ and Landry as options as well.

Are Takk McKinley and Jadeveon Clowney better than Olivier Vernon and Adrian Clayborn? Vernon was pretty good for us last year. I think the upside of our current is way greater.

I don't know if that is factually correct.

It's 8 million until any conditions have been met.

And all but the top three round selections will be under the top 51.

Absolutely, they're better, just as Malik Jackson is better than Ogunjobi and Billings is better than whomever our #2 DT behind Ogun was.

That said, this is on "on paper". We can't say for sure they're better until they do it. These guys still have to show up.

Clowney can play like a Polamalulu type only more physical. Hope he catches fire here.

Welcome to the Browns! Earn your keep. Win us some games. The Elf Lords command it!