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There is video evidence on Twitter of the blue lives matter retort. Can’t post her due to profanity in the tweet.

This sucks. I can't see the link.

This sucks.
A girl is dead.

#perspective

First look at that body cam footage and you could plainly see this girl came out with a butcher knife sized knife and rushed one girl hitting her from behind and knocking her to the ground in what I could only assume was an attempt to stab her in the back. Then she spun around with the knife in plain sight still tightly gripped in her hand and lunged at another girl attempting to stab her in the throat. It's not clear when the cop started shooting or how many times they shot her before she finally hits the ground. She might have only been 15, but this looked like the cop was doing his job to me and it was justified. At least as justified as it gets for killing a kid.

EDIT: The footage had no sound and was both grainy and blurry. Just an FYI.

Where do I find this footage?

I just found this on youtube with sound much clearer video.

Thank you!

The knife wasn't as big as it looked in the blurry footage I saw first, but with sound it still looked like he did his job to me. Somebody asked what the officer could have done to de escalate the situation, but I heard him yell at her and she never acknowledged him even being there other than avoiding running hin to him as she spun around before going after the girl on the ground again. I don't think he shot her before she had lunged and tried to stab a second girl. It was fast but that girl looked like she was on a mission to me, so I think the cop had to stop her.

You must know someone who can fix your jacked-up rig.
You can't see embedded vids, you can't post vids, ordinary links don't open for you... and then you waste prp's bandwidth whining about it to the rest of us, while doing nothing to better your situation or fix you problem(s).

D00D: ay someone to fix your messed-up setting and show you how to operate them without messing it up. Either that, or please at least stop broadcasting to the entire community how 'challenged' you are.

Sheeeesh.
This has become unbearably tiresome.



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Yeah, I agree with your take on this one, based upon what I can tell from the footage. The situation really, really sucks of course.

Try wsyx, wbns, or wcmh, those are 3 local tv stations.

A little context. Columbus Mayor spent last summer after meeting with BLM locals a sort of some would say stand off ish relationship between mayor and police, with mayor on the (reform the police crowds side) my personal observations.

But that's not the real context,

This shooting happened at 445 pm today, Uh, the mayor held a press conf. to release the body cam at 11 pm news, the 11 pm news didn't show it, cause they hadn't seen it, then 11 minutes later the 11 pm news showed it, some anyway,

7 times including slow motion at least 3 times.

The context of Police shooting here in Columbus only 5 dys ago, there was a police shooting in a local hospital, the body cam footage of multiple police from a suburb, the city, and the hospital armed security, point is the body cam footage played on the news about 12 broadcasts in a row for 3 days.

3rd context, There were police reform laws passed after a guy was shot by police over new years for holding up a cell phone and the body cam was turned on late, and the mayor fired that police officer that day.
laws requiring police to give cpr aid, immediately after they shoot someone "Andre's law".

Rocket, I’m looking at the title of this thread, and I have to ask how much investigation you even put into it before actually going off and posting a thread about how the police murdered a girl?

I agree the whole blue lives matter incident was really dumb, but you need to check your bias.

jc I find it amazing that cops make these judgement calls about whether to end someone's life in a split second. I could never do that job. I dont know how they do that.

That's what I said, it just doesn't read right.
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I choose to never click on links here, but find them independently from the writing in the link, and just the word link doesn't help.

Here Throw:

https://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/pe...oting-4-20-2021

He "chooses" NOT to click on the links and gets frustrated when they are abbreviated because he can't hover over them and read the link to type in the address bar himself. He's afraid of somehow being hacked if he clicks a link... makes you wonder what he has to hide?

Premeditated killing is murder.

To see someone with a knife and shooting without even asking questions...

So again, I stand by my thread title. We can disagree and that’s fine, but I’m going by dictionary definitions.
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ACAB

Defund the police.

What kind of questions do you ask when she goes after someone with a knife? I mean, maybe I’m missing something here, but say he doesn’t shoot and she stabs the other girl, and that girl dies? What would you have done?

Did you watch the video? He asked what was going on as he walked up just before the girl appeared with knife in hand and rushed another young girl trying to stab her then tried to stab another. It happened so fast he had to act. And I'm as disgusted as anyone that this keeps happening but I don't think this one rates the label murder with the facts so far.

I’m with you 100%. I’m very dismayed how things like this happen. I’m very dismayed at the myriad of mistreatment of blacks by law enforcement. I had an outside-in view of that when I worked for the Public Defender, but I never could fully appreciate it obviously due to my own demographic.

That being said, throwing out things like murder in these instances, before looking at what happened, is reckless and counterproductive to progress, IMO.

You can add all the snark to it that you want and mention a dictionary or common law definition, but you’d be willfully ignoring the whole story before you draw a conclusion.

That was a situation that went from bad to worse very fast.

I don’t see malice, I see a rational and plausible defense, which is different than the other scenarios.

Your thread title sucks.

I agree with OCD's take, someone was going to be stabbed, and sadly the officer had to make a split second decision to save another's life.

It's good that the CPD put out that body cam footage quickly, before the rumor mill and media hype led this story in the other direction, just hope it's enough to not take away from the progress of the day.

It doesn't fit the agenda to say a cop saves a life.

Now it's premeditated? You know, in real life they can't slow down time like in the video. From when he gets out of his car to the girl dying on the ground takes all of 10 seconds. You're sitting here behind your keyboard wondering why he wasn't asking her how she's doing (when she doesn't even respond to his shouts). Honestly, even though he acted as quickly as he did it's more luck than anything that she didn't kill or critically injure the two girls she swung on.

If you look back in the Chauvin thread after someone mentioned this shooting, you will see his point of view.

"She called the police due to a disturbance outside her house, she had a knife to protect herself, and then she came out of the house to talk with the cops and they shot her."

From the footage, this is not what happened, so either he has not looked at the footage, or he is in denial.

I watched it again, and from when the video started (he started getting out of his car) to when he finished firing his gun was 15 seconds. Dude literally has to make life-or-death decisions in seconds. If you wanted to criticize the officer, I'd actually say he didn't act fast enough as the girl got at 2 people before she was stopped. Maybe 1 shot could've done the job instead of multiple, but I'm not going to sit here behind my keyboard and criticize someone that did their job mostly correct but possibly didn't handle the insane amounts of adrenaline coursing through their veins perfectly.

The cold, hard truth was that due to the girl wielding the knife at least one person was probably going to die that day.

Someone storming around stabbing people and you want police to "ask questions"?

The only one "premeditating" was the perp. Lives were saved by the cops.

Refs -- can we change the title of this thread? Half the problem with all these incidents is people spreading misinformation and lies.

BS! I'm politically aligned with rocket and I said it. Stupid statements like that are why nobody takes you serious anymore. You've just become that miserable old man on his porch yelling at school kids to stay off his lawn... smh

Well actually that’s not the issue here is it? This is about bad cops killing black folks on the street without justification or being held accountable. We all know there are good cops and bad cops. You do know they actually play that game during some arrests right? Some play bad cop as a way of life. I’ve known a couple of bad cops that I went to school with. Always the bully. Then joined the police force and continued that life style. Bad cops make good cops look bad. The police unions pay for their legal costs. The municipalities pay these cops from our tax dollars. Cops pay union dues to police unions. Minneapolis police union paid 100% of Chauvin’s multi million dollar defense team. Our tax dollars are literally being used to protect bad cops that kill US.

So how many posts have you seen pushing that "agenda"? I'm certainly not and as of now have only seen "one poster" do so. This was justified. It's not pretty and nobody likes to see someone die. But I don't see the cop having an alternative choice here.

Pro tip:

If you're armed or swinging around a knife and the cops show up, throw it down on the ground immediately.

OCD was the first one that pointed out the reality of the video in the links.

Just clicking...

Shoot first should never be the answer. How about tasing her instead? Or bear spray (those things shoot about 30 feet)? Or rushing at her to tackle her? There had to have been other options, even if she did have a knife.


edit: i just got the chance to watch the video. Rushing her clearly wouldn't have worked because of proximity

Spoken like someone behind a keyboard after the fact with tons of time to think about it.

As oober said, it was a matter of seconds since he exited the vehicle and the incident occurred. One of your options is to rush at someone with a knife and tackle then when they're going berzerk?

Keep in mind, she just attacked someone with a lethal weapon and then began attacking someone else with said weapon, in the presence of 3 cops. Add in the timeline, too.

Do I wish that she survived? Absolutely 1,000% yes. Life is precious. Do I blame the cop for using his firearm? No, I do not.

No, speaking as a human being. Shooting someone should never be the first option. But after watching the video, options were limited. Taser was still a possiblity...as was bear spray (if they carry it).

I'm going to assume you didn't see the body cam video. The officer had zero time to ask questions. They girl was out of control and was about to stab another person. Its a shame she died but this wasn't murder.

Also, all cops aren't bastards. Your bias is showing.