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"I'm sure somehow they [the critics] will figure out Penn State wasn't that good, or something else," said receiver Brian Hartline.
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Great game by OSU but did an alarm go off for any of the Buckeye faithful?
OSU's run defense looked pretty porous last night against a downhill attack. PSU ran right at them in between the tackles and OSU's LB's continually got lost or caught up in traffic.
It was a dominant performance overall but I know it had to catch Michigan, Illinois and Wisconsin's attention (who all have big, strong inside runners). It was the glaring weakness in an otherwise perfect game.
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Great game by OSU but did an alarm go off for any of the Buckeye faithful?
OSU's run defense looked pretty porous last night against a downhill attack. PSU ran right at them in between the tackles and OSU's LB's continually got lost or caught up in traffic.
It was a dominant performance overall but I know it had to catch Michigan, Illinois and Wisconsin's attention (who all have big, strong inside runners). It was the glaring weakness in an otherwise perfect game.
No alarms for me this week nas...the only alarm I've heard was last week when Ringer got nothing. I would be the first to say we had played no one of any merit until MSU. I tend to agree with ABC's halftime analysis and think that PSU was actually playing the best ball they could. It was their backs' shiftiness that brought them positive yards.
The defense if legit. I think it's 6 touchdowns in 9 weeks. That'll win with any Div 1 schedule.
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Great game by OSU but did an alarm go off for any of the Buckeye faithful?
OSU's run defense looked pretty porous last night against a downhill attack. PSU ran right at them in between the tackles and OSU's LB's continually got lost or caught up in traffic.
It was a dominant performance overall but I know it had to catch Michigan, Illinois and Wisconsin's attention (who all have big, strong inside runners). It was the glaring weakness in an otherwise perfect game.
No alarms for me this week nas...the only alarm I've heard was last week when Ringer got nothing. I would be the first to say we had played no one of any merit until MSU.
 Wow, you really want to use MSU as an example? The same MSU team that's in 10th out of 11 teams ? MSU is trash, just like 9 out of the remaining 10 teams.
The Big Ten is GARBAGE this season! To think that a Michigan team that lost to a 1AA team and got BLOWN out by Oregon still has a chance to win the Big Ten titles says it all. Whoever comes out of the conference this season is going to get STOMPED in their bowl game. Sad but true.
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There is no way in hell OSU gets stopped on 2 years in a row in a bowl game....tress would never let that happen...it's not like this team doesn't have any playmakers....not saying OSU will win whtever bowl game or national title game they r in for sure...but there is no way they will get another 14-41 whooping
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So if the Bucks remain undefeated, stay #1, and BC does the same, are you saying they'll get stomped? I understand the conference has a lot of mediocrity in it right now, but if Ohio St. went to the National Championship last year and goes again this year, I don't care what anyone else says. They are still in the upper echelon in the country. So don't say everyone is garbage.
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So if the Bucks remain undefeated, stay #1, and BC does the same, are you saying they'll get stomped?
If the national championship is OSU vs. BC they might as well just stop playing college football. That would be the worst NC match-up EVER.
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Well I guess Nas won't be watching.
If they end up undefeated, it's going to happen. Enjoy the other bowl games then.
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I understand it's going to happen if they both go undefeated but you're kidding yourself if you think it would be the best 2 teams playing for the national title. OSU doesn't have a single win against a top 25 team.
What's hilarious to me is that Michigan is #12 in the BCS. How the hell can a team that lost to a 1AA team at home and got BLASTED by 30 by Oregon be considered a top 15 team based on the computers? That should tell you something right there.
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I understand it's going to happen if they both go undefeated but you're kidding yourself if you think it would be the best 2 teams playing for the national title. OSU doesn't have a single win against a top 25 team.
Actually, Penn St. was #24.*
*See title of this thread. 
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I don't care what they were ranked when you played them.......I'm asking who, in the current top 25 has OSU beat? Nobody. Previous rankings don't mean squat, unless you wanna call Michigan the #5 team in the country.
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I understand it's going to happen if they both go undefeated but you're kidding yourself if you think it would be the best 2 teams playing for the national title. OSU doesn't have a single win against a top 25 team.
What's hilarious to me is that Michigan is #12 in the BCS. How the hell can a team that lost to a 1AA team at home and got BLASTED by 30 by Oregon be considered a top 15 team based on the computers? That should tell you something right there.
Don't just blame the computers,...look at where the media polls put them.
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He's just upset that Michigan underachieved this year. Since Michigan is bad, the rest of the conference has to be bad too. Typical from that lot. "If we can't have it, no one can," is the mentality.
Admit that this team is good, or are you too much of a UM homer? Ohio State's defense, regardless of who they have played, is very good. Their offense is solid if not also very good. Speacial teams are as good as they usually are on a Tressel-coached team. Those are the ingredients for a NC caliber team. Not that I would expect a Michigan fan to get that. Their last undisputed national title pre-dated the advent of the forward pass.
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I understand it's going to happen if they both go undefeated but you're kidding yourself if you think it would be the best 2 teams playing for the national title. OSU doesn't have a single win against a top 25 team.
What's hilarious to me is that Michigan is #12 in the BCS. How the hell can a team that lost to a 1AA team at home and got BLASTED by 30 by Oregon be considered a top 15 team based on the computers? That should tell you something right there.
Don't just blame the computers,...look at where the media polls put them.
I don't care if it's not your dream matchup. It is what it is, and you wouldn't have it all under the old way.
I'm not just blaming the computers, I'm just pointing out that in this system it's going to reward a team with a weak schedule. It's the same thing with Michigan this season. They're not very good but their incredibly weak conference schedule has allowed them to get back on track. I would guess a team like UM this season, given how it's played out (injuries, etc) would be a 4-5 loss team in the SEC or Pac-10. I guess I just don't buy in to the Big Ten or Big East having one of the best teams in the country, regardless of record.
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Admit that this team is good, or are you too much of a UM homer? Ohio State's defense, regardless of who they have played, is very good. Their offense is solid if not also very good. Speacial teams are as good as they usually are on a Tressel-coached team. Those are the ingredients for a NC caliber team. Not that I would expect a Michigan fan to get that. Their last undisputed national title pre-dated the advent of the forward pass.
LMAO, didn't take long to break out a little smack huh?
I never said OSU wasn't good. I do however think they're not one of the best 2 teams in the nation. I think Oregon and LSU are stronger teams at this point....mainly because they've run through schedules 2 and 3 times harder than OSU's.
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That's the thing. If I view Michigan as an average team and they're the only other undefeated team in the conference, how would that reflect on my view of the Big Ten? Probably poorly huh? To think that all but 2 teams already have 2 losses shows how incredibly mediocre the conference is. The only teams ranked in both polls are OSU and Michigan, and Michigan lost to a 1AA school and just got rolled by Oregon. Michigan was able to beat Penn State (for the entire game) and Illinois (nearly 3 quarters of it) without their starting QB, two teams that were considered some of the best in the conference. How does that NOT translate to mediocre?
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My point is, how good your team is has nothing to do with how strong or weak your conference is. Look at USC for the last several years. The Pac10 was pitiful, but USC were still the darlings of the college football world.
OSU is worthy of its ranking. They have shown up and smacked around everyone they have played.
LSU has shown to be over-rated on both sides of the ball. They have lost. I believe they will lose again.
Oregon, as good as they might be (and I think they are #2 behind OSU) has lost. That's the way it goes in the BCS. BC will lose before the year is out, so I am not worried about them.
OSU happens to be in a year between getting an OOC opponent of high quality (the Washington matchup looked good when it was scheduled). Next year and the year after, OSU gets USC. In the following years, Miami, Oklahoma and Virginia Tech are on the slate.
The last point I'll make is no one really knows that the SEC is as strong as advertised. They overall OOC schedule there is embarrassing. This always gets justified by the idea that the conference schedule is so tough. How does anyone know it is really tough? Because the teams beat up on each other? Maybe it is mediocrity beating mediocrity, followed by a bowl slate full of home games. I think the SEC is strong, but how strong they are is really way played out. Sure, OSU hasn't had a great record against them, but most of that is pre-Tressel, and with Tress, OSU lost in his first year (barely) to SC with Cooper's players (can you say Steve Bellisari?), and then the aberation in the desert last year.
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Great game by OSU but did an alarm go off for any of the Buckeye faithful?
OSU's run defense looked pretty porous last night against a downhill attack. PSU ran right at them in between the tackles and OSU's LB's continually got lost or caught up in traffic.
It was a dominant performance overall but I know it had to catch Michigan, Illinois and Wisconsin's attention (who all have big, strong inside runners). It was the glaring weakness in an otherwise perfect game.
No alarms for me this week nas...the only alarm I've heard was last week when Ringer got nothing. I would be the first to say we had played no one of any merit until MSU.
Wow, you really want to use MSU as an example? The same MSU team that's in 10th out of 11 teams ? MSU is trash, just like 9 out of the remaining 10 teams.
The Big Ten is GARBAGE this season! To think that a Michigan team that lost to a 1AA team and got BLOWN out by Oregon still has a chance to win the Big Ten titles says it all. Whoever comes out of the conference this season is going to get STOMPED in their bowl game. Sad but true.
An apparent misunderstanding of my point. Big Ten rushing leader Ringer gets 203 yards the week before and then 51 against the Buckeyes. That was the "merit" I was speaking of.
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You are correct. The Buckeyes often did not maintain their lanes (I was screaming as much at the TV screen).
Legitimacy is not the question you make it. Allowing on only 6 TDs defensively in 9 weeks while playing in a major Div 1 conference (5 games played thus far) speaks for itself. Couple that with a more than capable offense that has proven themselves and your desire to discredit their standing is not only ineffective, but lame.
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OSU wont be considered any good......unless they lose to Michigan than the blue faithful will be hollering that they should be ranked higher for the BCS because they beat the team that held number 1 ranking the longest. Truth be known...I would probably feel the exact same way. The fact is that OSU controls their own destiny right now We will have to see what happens. If they can make it back to the title game, that itself would be a huge achievement. They only way they can shut anybody up is to win the whole damn thing. Nothing else will silence the critics. Even the Michigan game is tainted due to their rough start to the season and our mutual january debacles from last year Wisconsin is next. Lets see what happens
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An apparent misunderstanding of my point. Big Ten rushing leader Ringer gets 203 yards the week before and then 51 against the Buckeyes. That was the "merit" I was speaking of.
That's the thing with MSU, they're an entirely one dimensional team. The stat looks nice but their QB is so bad that OSU could just completely load the box against them, knowing they were going to run on 1st and 2nd down. They also run a lot of off tackle and stretch plays which don't work against a fast defense.
The reason it started to show in the PSU game is that Morelli atleast presented the threat to throw the ball on any down, even if it wasn't effectively. It loosed up the box a little bit and allowed their RB's to find creases. Also, PSU ran right at OSU, negating their speed. I just felt like it would be a strategy that these last few teams (including UM) would really try to exploit. Michigan, even in a year that got off to a rough start, is still the only team in the conference that OSU will play that has a legit NFL skill set across the board (Henne, Hart, Manningham, Arrington) and I think it will cause them a lot of problems. That doesn't mean Michigan will win but I feel pretty good about our chances after watching PSU attack your front 7.
It will be really interesting to see how P.J. Hill/Mendenhall fair......it could have just been some mental lapses but if Wisconsin/Illinois can run the ball like PSU did, I think OSU could be in trouble down the road.
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I hate to say it, but even that might not be enough... There is a lot of football yet to be played but the stage is already set for controversy, for example OSU beating Boston College and not having to play LSU or Oregon or whoever the top 1-loss teams are at the time.... OSU just needs to take the attitude that they don't control any of it, we'll play whoever shows up.... and if somebody doesn't like it, then screw 'em. 
I guess I should edit and give credit to Arizona State, Kansas, and Hawaii... which I think covers the remaining unbeatens.... so regardless of how this plays out, it looks like there could be a few teams who could claim they should be in the title game... but like I said, still a lot of football to play....
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I know where your coming from. You being a Michigan fan, you were all excited about this season. Hart, Henne, Long coming back, and a top 5 presesaon ranking. -All for nothing, beat by a 1AA team during weak one! On top of that, Michigan's arch-rival, OSU, playing great again, and ranked #1 in a season that Michigan was supposed to contend for the National Championship. So what do you do? Instead of giving Ohio State it's due recognition, you claim that Ohio State isn't good because the conference they play in. Perhaps you forgot- Ohio State destroyed every team they were suposed to destroy, whereas Michigan got destroyed by a team they were supposed to destroy.- 1AA What were you saying about the Big 10 when Michigan was ranked 5th in the nation? Ohio State is the true #1 team in the nation, Ohio State will stomp LSU, or Boston College in the National Championship game.
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I hate to say it, but even that might not be enough... There is a lot of football yet to be played but the stage is already set for controversy, for example OSU beating Boston College and not having to play LSU or Oregon or whoever the top 1-loss teams are at the time.... OSU just needs to take the attitude that they don't control any of it, we'll play whoever shows up.... and if somebody doesn't like it, then screw 'em.
I guess I should edit and give credit to Arizona State, Kansas, and Hawaii... which I think covers the remaining unbeatens.... so regardless of how this plays out, it looks like there could be a few teams who could claim they should be in the title game... but like I said, still a lot of football to play....
This is the attitude I'm gonna start taking here too,...the Buckeyes have been taking care of business, regardless of where they're ranked.
If their position in all of this is bogus,...then so is everyone else's.
I hear the echoes of Saturday nite's Penn State fans -- "OVER-RATED; OVER-RATED,..." Yes, because you were too weak to be a REAL opponent.
That's not Ohio State's fault,....
And, the computers have them at # 3. So what's the real question bothering us all here anyway,...? Right again,...the MEDIA polls.
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Dude u have said so many things that are wrong i don't even know where to start....you are straight up generelizing EVERYTHING...
Let me get this straight....So you want a SEC team in the national title game every year? or the title game is meaningless? because big ten and any other confe suck? because that is what i got out of you saying all this garbadge...
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He had no problem with the Big 10 when his Michigan Wolverines were ranked 5th. Despite the fact that Michigan returned their 3 big starters, OSU is still tops in the country, lololololol Appalachian State
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You better'd change that tune buddy,... They play The Citadel this weekend and me and the Old Lady will BE THERE.
So, since all of the polls, the BCS and the TV/Radio sportscasters are wrong about what the Buckeyes really are,...then if The BullDogs beat AppState, and Michigan beats the Buckeyes, then The Citadel is the Number One team in the country and should be in the National Title game,...Right ?? 
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I don't care what they were ranked when you played them.......I'm asking who, in the current top 25 has OSU beat? Nobody. Previous rankings don't mean squat, unless you wanna call Michigan the #5 team in the country.
Well they're out of the top 25 because we beat them- or else they'd still be there. 
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