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This is the strangest situation that I have seen in the NFL.
Head coach, Rodgers, team President vs GM.
MVP says "so long."
Retire? Trade? Returns?
Aaron is making $30 mil plus. Packers deep in the playoffs last two years.
Packers could play hardball. He is under contract till 23.
This could get ugly.
The Packers are not owned by a individual. The fans? Please, easy. They will back Rodgers.
Head coach of course backs Rodgers. He wants to win.
Would Rodgers hold out? Walk away from $30m?
My guess is the Packers will bend over. Beg for forgiveness bring him in and give him whatever he is asking for.
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Rodgers will be the QB of the Packers next year. Just some off-season drama.
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I think he’ll return as well. He’s a pretty passive aggressive dude and likes to boost his ego and power.
His year last year allowed him to gain the leverage back from GB and he’s using it now ... I actually bet that they’ll trade Love before Rodgers now
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The offseason of QB divas. Wilson, Watson, and Rodgers. I pray Baker never turns into one.
I've said this in a different thread - if he wants out, the ball is in his court. GB has zero incentive to trade him with 38m in dead cap (iirc). His options are
1) shut up and play 2) retire and give back a big chunk of his signing bonus...and know that GB still owns his rights 3) renegotiate his deal to reduce the dead cap hit to make a trade possible 4) don't shut up and play anyway, at the risk of ticking off more fans (the couple GB fans I've talked to are ready to move on from him)
edit: it'd be interesting to see what the market is for him post-draft. I'm sure many teams would take him, but at what cost and for how long
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The Packers are not owned by a individual. The fans? Please, easy. They will back Rodgers. Doesn't matter, the ownership stock is non voting.. meaning they have no say in what happens...
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dude divorced his family.... I personally think he's done in GB unless they fire the GM...
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I don't want that player in Cleveland, and I don't care about the packers as a team. Think the masses overrate his abilities, there are some but he would not be realistically valued.
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The Packers are not owned by a individual. The fans? Please, easy. They will back Rodgers. Doesn't matter, the ownership stock is non voting.. meaning they have no say in what happens... Exactly. The board of directors controls team operations. I would assume they are also the largest shareholders. Some fan who bought 4 shares isn't voting on things the board controls. There are probably 3-4 families that control over 50% of the stock. What they want is how it will go. The number of families with controlling share doesn't really matter. I just put up a number.
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The Packers are not owned by a individual. The fans? Please, easy. They will back Rodgers. Doesn't matter, the ownership stock is non voting.. meaning they have no say in what happens... Exactly. The board of directors controls team operations. I would assume they are also the largest shareholders. Some fan who bought 4 shares isn't voting on things the board controls. There are probably 3-4 families that control over 50% of the stock. What they want is how it will go. The number of families with controlling share doesn't really matter. I just put up a number. And in the end, that still doesn't matter.. The max you can purchase is 200000 shares "To protect against someone taking control of the team, the articles of incorporation prohibit any person from owning more than 200,000 shares. The corporation is governed by a board of directors and a seven-member executive committee. Shareholders do not receive any dividend on the investment." If you google it, that's what you'll find
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I wouldn't trade for this guy for any amount even if he was free His arrogance would destroy our Locker room ...Jmo
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I wouldn't trade for this guy for any amount even if he was free His arrogance would destroy our Locker room ...Jmo He won the MVP last year and the Packers were one win away from the Super Bowl. Do you think he just got this arrogant or that he has been this way for awhile?
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No but I'll bet a lot of his teammates don't care if he moves on ... JMO
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I didn't play tackle football past high school, but at every level from pee-wee up to HS, and then in college intramural & adult touch football leagues well into my 30's, the QBs had a degree of arrogance. Some of them were outright knobs. I think it goes with the position.
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No but I'll bet a lot of his teammates don't care if he moves on ... JMO Which ones?
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No but I'll bet a lot of his teammates don't care if he moves on ... JMO Which ones? Jordan Love
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No but I'll bet a lot of his teammates don't care if he moves on ... JMO Which ones? While he works on that, please give us the list of NFL players that like locker room controversies and embrace teammates that don't want to play for their team.
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No but I'll bet a lot of his teammates don't care if he moves on ... JMO Which ones? While he works on that, please give us the list of NFL players that like locker room controversies and embrace teammates that don't want to play for their team. Players generally don’t care about this type of stuff. They just show up, lift weights, get paid, and go home.
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I have read way too much stuff about Rodgers', the Packers' and the Ravens' on here today. I don't give a flying turd about any of them. ------ CFRS. " Players generally don't care ... just show up, lift weights, get paid, and go home. " That's it! Gimme the whistle, you don't get to be assistant coach anymore.
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I wrote this on a Facebook article earlier this week. Baker is just fine. I don't feel the Browns need a malcontent QB. IF guys like Mark Rypien, Trent Dilfer, Doug Williams, Neil O'Donnell & Rex Grossman can play in a Super Bowl, Baker surely can .
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I wrote this on a Facebook article earlier this week. Baker is just fine. I don't feel the Browns need a malcontent QB. IF guys like Mark Rypien, Trent Dilfer, Doug Williams, Neil O'Donnell & Rex Grossman can play in a Super Bowl, Baker surely can . Defenses win Championships. We are just fine with Mayfield.
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Rodgers attitude man.....
Y’all remember a couple seasons ago that one bills players quitting football at halftime?
I could see Rodgers pulling something like that.
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Yeah. Vonta Davis. He was a long term vet too.
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The next Brett Favre who I am also sick of. Be a suit on Jeopardy. Get him off this board. We have plenty of excited guys who want to play here.
Danica broke his spirit? Just a little too prima donna. Play ball, man!
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I don't cussin like the guy. Rogers. I don't plan to like him in the future either!
I have much more interest, Much more interest in seeing the next 3-10 years with Baker Mayfield on the Browns than seeing ANY
other qb in Cleveland Whether it be, DeShaun Watson, or a 49 year old Rogers, or a 49 year old Tom Brady, or a 49 year old Drew Brees.
Never forget, the International, the National media, Hates Cleveland, and they hate to see Cleveland have anything nice,
Obviously, ( and look how they tried to lure Lebron James away when he had his first move to the Miami heat; so), Obviously, the National, New York Bleep Bleeps, (a), want to pry away Baker Mayfield from the Browns, Because Baker Mayfield is really special. It's just another reason to hate New York, altogether, and the whole region, Connecticutt, Massachusetts, all that ,
They think they control you and you have no choice but to accept whatever poop sandwich they offer you, THAT'S why I hate those area's.
That's not Midwestern values, that's not being a good neighbor.
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...inicamp-tryout/Packers sign QB Kurt Benkert during rookie minicamp tryout Posted by Michael David Smith on May 15, 2021, 2:56 PM EDT For the second time this week, the Packers have signed a quarterback. Kurt Benkert, who was brought in for a tryout during this weekend’s rookie minicamp, has signed with the team, he announced on Twitter. Benkert spent the last three years in Atlanta, mostly on the practice squad, and has never played in a regular-season NFL game. He played in college at both East Carolina and Virginia. Quarterback Blake Bortles signed with the Packers this week. The Packers also brought quarterback Chad Kelly in for a tryout at this weekend’s rookie minicamp, but there has been no word about him signing. The real question at quarterback for the Packers, of course, is whether disgruntled NFL MVP Aaron Rodgers will retire or try to force a trade. Jordan Love, last year’s first-round draft pick, would be the presumed heir apparent if Rodgers is not the quarterback in Green Bay this year.
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Without Rodgers GB is toast.
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I'VE GOT IT! I figured it out, it took me month, but it jogged into my memory.
What was the Problem, Rogers was upset because the Packers drafted Jordan Love to replace him, in 2020, (which just ends up being wrong)
Everybody with sense knows, Jordan Love ain't no Rogers replacement, that's a joke, of a real attempt.
So what happened, I looked back, Love was drafted in 2020, in 2019, Rogers played 90% of all the passes in 2019, the other guy was 3 of 5 passing all year or something, so. And that was at 36 years old
They needed a backup plan, and coincidentally what happened in 2018. In 2018, Dishone Kizer took his interception exhibition to the Packers for 42 pass attempts, and was scary bad.
Jordan Love, was drafted, to replace Dishone Kizer.
OH but the media, they probably got into Rogers' head, because of his age, and convinced him they drafted Love to replace Rogers.
It's not the GM's fault, No GM is going to consult Rogers if he's drafting a Qb to replce Kizer, from a year and a half ago, and having nobody at backup qb in 2019 after Kizer's plummet in 2018.
Did Rogers crack under the pressure, or is this the results of Kizers' instability as a backup, somebody drafted Jordan Love, but who was he really there to replace.
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Rodgers is mad because the Packers used their first round pick in the 2020 draft on a QB. You don't draft a QB in the first round unless you plan on starting him.
What is lost here is that, with Brett Farve ensconced as the GB QB in 2005, the Packers drafted Rodgers with their 1st round pick and sat him behind Farve for 3 years. That had worked very well for them, and it looks like they were trying to repeat history.
But Aaron wanted weapons, not a backup, and he's been angry ever since.
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Rodgers is mad because the Packers used their first round pick in the 2020 draft on a QB. You don't draft a QB in the first round unless you plan on starting him.
What is lost here is that, with Brett Farve ensconced as the GB QB in 2005, the Packers drafted Rodgers with their 1st round pick and sat him behind Farve for 3 years. That had worked very well for them, and it looks like they were trying to repeat history.
But Aaron wanted weapons, not a backup, and he's been angry ever since. Great QB... NO Question.. But he's also a cry baby...
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Who really knows the complete inside story.
From the outside looking in. It seems that there was a way to handle it and that did not happen
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Let me first say that Baker is our guy and it's certainly looking like one of these days he will lead us to a Superbowl. But Aaron Rodgers? He's one of my fav QB's. If I was one of the powers-that-be in the Browns organization I would at least be tempted to make a trade for him. I know I'm in the minority here, but could you imagine us on the field with Rodgers at the helm? It would be freakin' awesome.
No matter, it's not gonna happen.
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About 7 years ago I proposed a trade to co-worker who is a GB fan. I offered our first round pick to GB every year til Rodgers retired, he said no way, lol.
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Ditto. He's a whiner and a winner. All QBs competitive as hell or they're toast. He wanted to go for it in playoff game, he wanted weapons/ not a backup. He's a Hall of Fame QB who might not end his playing days in Green Bay. Want him, hell no, he's a diva. Go Browns!!!
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Your feelings and opinions do not add up to facts.
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Not saying it will not happen.
However, because of the gobs of coverage. I will believe it when it is official.
Jim Brown and Barry Sanders walked early.
But for the MVP of the NFL coming off a 13-3 season and losing in the NFC Championship game.
For a Hall of Fame quarterback to walk away.
I have to see an official announcement from him.
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