DawgTalkers.net Forums The Archives 2021 NFL Season 2021 NFL Draft Browns select Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah with the 52nd pick

On the local morning show (Carman & Lima) they were talking about what to call JOK, conversationally. Should he be called Owusu-Koramoah, JOK, or Joker? Lima reported that his teammates called him "Woo", kind of like the Ric Flair thing, or that annoying sound Indians fans make at home games. Although it would be pretty cool to hear 70,000 "WOO's" when he makes a big play. Some of us old Steely Dan fans might call him Dr Wu ...

Wilson missed a lot of tackles last year. That's won't fly. He actually got worse last year from the year before.

Well said. And from what I gather, we are one of the few teams that can really plug him into our scheme. We were obviously worried that someone would snag him (Pittsburgh or Tennessee), so it really worked out

Takitaki is one of the best run defenders in the league. He’s not going to play a ton of snaps but he has a meaningful role. He also plays special teams. Wilson doesn’t have a role and doesn’t play special teams.

Wilson's pro day 40 was 4.71
Takitaki's combine 40 was 4.63

Well, Wilson does a better job on Twitter.

Now if Joe Woods could just come up with a Twitter package on the field to make Wilson more valuable.

Thank you.. I was hoping that it was that rather than what we did with Babatunde Oshinowa (sp) He was very well thought of leading up to that draft in 2006.. Then he dropped, we snagged him and he was basically gone right away..

I watched lots of tape on JOK and he's special,, No question. sounds like you've hit the nail on the head.

This showed up on FB today!

I'm not sure why this is all of a sudden a big story. This was revealed earlier that the heart "question" came up from a test that was run. His agent quickly had other testing done and the results were in before the draft took place, which debunked the heart "issue". I think Adam is getting a click bait story going.

From the way it sounds everyone was well aware.

"According to Adam Schefter of ESPN, Owusu-Koramoah had a heart issue come up late in the pre-draft process, which was a cause for concern for most clubs. Doctors ultimately cleared Owusu-Koramoah leading up to the draft, but that issue certainly contributed to him falling out of the first round."

The more I read and see Newsome, the more I like that pick ... and still can't believe we got JOK as well. Unreal.

I respect that POV. It's even possible neither get cut.

Interesting. Not how it looks on the field. And I don't really know how that correlates to how they play on the field, or if it makes a significant difference in a straight line, let alone moving around at the LB spot, but it is interesting.

He moved to the other side and had about a third of the snaps. I can tell you have a hard on for him, that's cool. It's not all that important to me, I just hope he finds some success.

The only thing I care about is that players play well, and don't cost us games.

I don't remember which game, but I remember seeing somebody cheapshotting Ward and Wilson ran over and thumped him. Though it was well out of bounds we didn't get a penalty and notice had been served. I thought that was great. That play alone makes me hope he'll stick and take a leap forward. One of the biggest disappointments to me is the way our team didn't stick up for each other ever since the return. I wanted to puke when Harrison concussed our players at will with no consequences. And then our players were on the field chatting and giggling with those guys after the games. That was my only beef with Joe T. He also seemed to put up with the cheapshot crap from the Steelers.

I remember that play. It was in bounds. Ward was getting stiffarmed and pushed back by a bigger TE. Can't remember the team, but Wilson came over and laid the big hit...

...and then had the video captioned on Twitter within about 5 minutes of the game ending.

I totally forgot that play from Wilson. Good point. I don't remember who it was that hit Ward, but it was a large TE (so the physical mismatch was pretty obvious).

I know this may ruffle some feathers, not that it's ever stopped me before...

But this is why I say fans let their emotions and feelings get the best of them. This is a single play. This is no way shows what Wilson has contributed as a player.

The most critical thing we need to think of in regards to our Browns is improvement. That includes everything from starters, to depth, to special teams.

I have no idea if that means Wilson will no longer be on our roster. If it does that's a good thing. It means we have a better quality player to replace him and his services are no longer needed here.

Looking like a tough guy on a single play means nothing in the grand scheme of things.

Holy "let's make an argument where there is none" Batman! I said "That play alone makes me hope he'll stick and take a leap forward." Nothing else.

Everything isn't all about you.

Taki was one of the best run stopping LBs in the league last year, he has value on special teams too. He is a liability in pass coverage,

Mack has the tools. The injury hurt his development last year. I would like to see how he responds to the competition this year. If he steps up, he, Phillips, and JOK could be the future.

We will be playing one or two linebackers most of the tine. I think we will ease JOK into a role because it’s not clear what he can do in the NFL. I think Walker and Phillips will be getting the most snaps with Takitaki behind them.

At least to start I can agree with that.

How many LBers did we keep on the roster last year, or maybe plan to keep this year?

Last year we had 7 LBers on the official roster after cut downs. Right now we have 10 on the pre-season roster.

SAM Sione Takitaki, Malcolm Smith, Curtis Weaver
MLB Anthony Walker, Mack Wilson, Tony Fields II
WLB Jacob Philips, Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, Elijah Woods, George Obinna

I wouldn't pay much attention to the designations, this is just where they had them on Ourlads.

The thing to watch is the correlation to positions between the LB and DB.

Last season we had 10 DBs, 4 CB and 6 SAF.. We could drop 1-2 SAF with the additions of JOK and Fields. However, I expect them to keep 5 CBs this year. Injuries put them in a bind last season.I could easily see them keep 5 CBs, 4 safeties and 8 LBers.

On that list I count 7 who make the team. That includes Weaver who I would actually count with the Dline group.

The more I think about this trade/move up, I wonder if the team we really wanted to get ahead of was Pittsburgh.

I think it was the "sweet spot" ahead of a few teams that we would rather not see him go to. It really couldn't have been much sweeter when you look at all the teams we don't really care about above the slot, and the powerhouses below it.

2 40 Atlanta Falcons
2 41 Detroit Lions
2 42 Miami Dolphins
2 43 Las Vegas Raiders
2 44 Dallas Cowboys
2 45 Jacksonville Jaguars
2 46 Cincinnati Bengals
2 47 Los Angeles Chargers
2 48 San Francisco 49ers
2 49 Arizona Cardinals
2 50 New York Giants
2 51 Washington Football Team
2 52 Cleveland Browns Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah
2 53 Tennessee Titans
2 54 Indianapolis Colts
2 55 Pittsburgh Steelers
2 56 Seattle Seahawks
2 57 Los Angeles Rams
2 58 Kansas City Chiefs

The calls probably started (in earnest) when he slipped to 40. In the span between 59 and 52 we leapfrogged FOUR AFC playoff teams; six playoff teams, league wide.

You just simply can't do it any better than that.

I didn't have cable TV or internet for the first 2-1/2 days of the draft (thanks Spectrum!), so I had to listen to Nathan Zegura and Ken Carman covering the draft on the radio. Anyway, Zegura said that the Browns moved up specifically to get him before the Steelers could pick him. I imagine there was some swearing going on in the Pittsburgh war room when that happened.

Ha! That makes me feel even better about the pick, (and I was beyond happy when we picked him) because the one position Pittsburgh seems to always get right is LB.