DawgTalkers.net Forums The Archives 2021 NFL Season 2021 NFL Draft Browns select Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah with the 52nd pick

The big problem to me is the way we "officiate". Fine, you're not sure... throw the flag. But for the love of all things good, review the play and pick a flag up once in a while. That NEVER happens.

Yeah, boy- talk about your "bare cupboards"...

Yup, we're doomed.
We have nobody to line up Week 1

All I saw in that video was JOK slugging someone into the turf with much physicality. Hopefully he can do that at the next level.

He is going to, I suspect and hope, kick some ass and take names, and he doesn’t look like a kid fresh out of college, either - he looks like a man. JOK ain’t no joke.

But can he cover like Lewis..

I think his smaller size will prevent him from physically beating up on the NFL talent that's around him. He also won't be so much faster than the opposition.

I'm not poo-poo'ing the pick. He's a Brown so therefore I'm a fan. Our roster is also such that he won't be thrown straight into the fire. If that highlight video is any indication, I just think he needs to tighten up his tackling technique or he's going to have a tough time on Sundays.

One thing about highlight videos is that they love showing the big blow up hit. The textbook tackle rarely show up because it just isn't as exciting for most people.

Having said that, it doesn't meant that he mostly uses good technique and the few blow ups are exceptions. Just pointing out that we cannot tell from that video.

Personally, I have not watched many ND games the past couple of years so have no comment on his tackling techniques.

Seriously. Sigh.

The rest of the NFL is getting more WR's and getting them in rounds higher than the Browns, (with the exception of OBJ.), but OBJ entered the league more than 2 years ago, but he's not even 27 yet.

The Browns had to give up a free/strong safety, a 3rd round pick and a 1st round pick to get OBJ in a trade.

The Browns history of players in the draft shows a tendency to show players selected outside of the top 120,(actually more like top 104), fall off in effectiveness.

Felton, (who should be a WR,) and Donovan Peoples-Jones, along with Ratley and some other I forget were selected outside of the top 104 picks in the past couple of years.
(again to remind, I'm answering, sigh, "why I think" so, if someone disagrees with my next reasoning, just move on;) but;
Rashard Higgins' superseded his late draft status, (status of selection after pick 104), the week he was brought back to the team after being waived, way back in like 2016/2017 because he fought his way back onto the roster.) but!
To go back to the point. ( because I think, and 3rdly we have to receive Schwartz, because he's a straight line speed guy, about along the lines of a UDFA, not a 3rd round pick, until he proves he can play;
""Based on"", he only had 7 rec. td's in 3 years as a WR in College football, scratch that, 6!

Yet the team used a 3rd on him so there's that.

Such that. (I think) ... ... and I didn't address Khaderal Hodge yet.
Hodge, appears to be a team favorite, because of the playing time he got last year early season, and Radio hosts point out he blocks.

Yet drives show they punt more when Hodge is in the lineup, (and featured), to which I say/think, he hinders the flow of the offense, and isn't the threat to score deep that most of the others are.

Is! One Wr enough in an offense? NO, how many? 2, no, 3 + yes because they all feed off of each other and NFL defenses are coveraged to easily remove only 1 or 2 good options from an offense, including Te's + Wr's yet even w/te's they lack, usually, speed and cut/- ability, breaks, whatever to get open, ..." in the same way" that WRs' do so that a 3 wr. A "real" 3 wr set is a necessary tool for an offensive arsenal, ( at least, if not a 4 or 5 plus depth)

So, scheme-ily, One WR is not enough, but Jarvis, is one, and Beckham was injured, between the two of them the sad fact of the NFL is injuries happen.

So If I think after Higgins, and Jarvis, and OBJ, that Donovan Peoples-Jones is going to fall off,
(side note, I always liked how Baker and Derrick Willies seem to play with so much chemistry,)
that DPJ is going to fall off, that between Schwartz and Felton, you don't have anything proven, yet two roster spots, are going to be used, where One would be great, if the player were... (and do just enough to not be replaced, yet hold just enough problems to hinder really overcoming as an offensive whole,
and if I believe Khaderal Hodge, blocks, and probably does the route running well, or "whatever" but the team punts more when he's in there, so he's going to take up a spot that just won't go to a special player,

and If I believe we have the game before the injury where a no shoes Beckham was widely videod, kinda shows he wasn't all in, at least at the time, with team plans and attitude whatever,

Not even to mention contracts,
NOt even to mention the Browns' historically, if the team has needs,
go Defense, 1. Defense 2. " Wait'! We gotta go Defense!, followed by double checking the Defense,
before they can get around,
to addressing the offensive skilled positions,

In a league that sets up so many rules to demand more offense, (automatic 4th down penalties... < wait they don't exist) (automatic 1st and goal penalties, automatic 15 yards +first down you hurt the quarterbacks 'feelings'.

Then YA, I'm always going to say the Browns need another WR, (but there's an opportunity cost, so it's not at the expense of putting out a Defense that can't stop grandma;)
And,
Even in all of this,
One of the Browns biggest dangers' to success, which they are trending toward being more likely to get caught up in, is looking back after a loss at how they abandoned the run game,
Got caught up in trying to throw the Ball too much, ( See (2020) Joe Burrow, < he looks so great w/ another game in the loss column, because their team didn't seem to realize you can throw for 300+ more often in a loss than a team with a balanced run and pass 250+ which more often wins.
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So, They need, 1 more Better Receiver, and they need to throw the ball less, (I mean get caught up in drives that "only throw the ball" less often.)
vs. drives that throw and run balanced.

So they need 1 more better Wr. instead of 3+ roster spots of guys who are going to struggle.

And remain balanced on Run vs. Pass, and don't trend toward abandoning the run.

and 3, Remember proper use of the Tight ends, the team with the best Tight End(s), play, will once again win the AFC North, probably.

Unpopular beliefs.
(The Browns are going to tell us in 11 months that the best player(s) in the draft are cornerbacks, again.)

Which is fine if it's a need, DRAFT SIX!!!, until one year, the need is something else!

You know I can't back up that statement about Hodge and punting more, I don't know, it just, it just seems that way in my mind, in my memory.

You know, TL ... every single thing that pops into your head doesn't necessarily need to be posted here.

You do know that, right?

I honestly think that JOK could be our Ray Lewis type player for us. He looked like someone in college that will strike fear into the hearts of QB's and RB's for the next decade in the NFL.

I could see not posting if I had ongoing correspondence with the team, ownership on down. Have you ever boo-ed or cheered?
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JOK, may be more like Troy Palumalu than Ray Lewis.

Ray Lewis earned it, but was not appreciated by big media really before his 3rd year and later.

And Grant Delpit may be more impactful than Koramoah.

I just watched JOK's Rookie Minicamp presser. I really like this dude's energy. He was very composed and mature in the way that he handled himself. I really liked how he showed no irritation about the multiple questions about his heart health. Then when he said his thoughts on the KC game were all focused on himself and the team and not the opponent I thought that was 1) authentic and 2) the correct approach for a rookie to take. He also seems very confident in himself without being puffed up.

This 100.

Same with his snippets on Building the Browns...
Acts and talks like he's an adult.
Confident but not cocky (not that "cocky" really bothers me).
Intelligent and well-spoken.
Calm demeanor for someone who's a "guided missile" on the field.
Very charismatic.
Does not carry himself as a rookie at all.

Doesn't have that "got something to prove to all the naysayers" attitude, more like "I'm gonna reaffirm everything I already know about myself".

Then it's a good thing we're paying OBJ and Landry $15M each.

Which, as each year passes, is looking to be more and more affordable.

https://overthecap.com/position/wide-receiver/

Afford and worth are two different things.

The Cavs could afford Tristan Thompson. That didn't make it a good deal.
The Browns can afford Austin Hooper. So far, that isn't looking like all that good of a deal, either.

we are just fine,, in fact we are way better than fine in the WR department... no issues...

How did this turn into a receiver thread?

What a train wreck? lol

JOK gonna give us a something we haven't seen in the LB department in a long time. He's got skills.

I'll keep that in mind. I could always learn some football.

After your post I read the thread title. I thought it was a WR thread that someone accidentally mentioned JOK in.

First thought is he will be used in coverage, but this makes me think he was brought in to boost the run defense.
Similar to Clowney,
First thought is Jadeveon Clowney is a pass rusher but further look makes me think he was also brought in to boost the run defense.
Similar to Tony Fields II. First thought is he is a coverage player, but a further look makes me think he also was brought in to boost the run defense.

I'm hoping what he becomes is a defensive problem solver. If it is TE coverage against Mark Andrews or containment against Jackson. If it is gap filing against Mixon or pass rushing against Ben. Whatever is needed week-by-week to take away something the opposing offense relies on. Ideally, the defense beocmes good enough to make these adjustments series-by-series.

Move him around the defense to solve these problems.

I hope he becomes the problem offenses have to try to solve; I want to move from solving problems from other teams and shift to continually causing THEM problems.

Good point. This defense has the potential to dictate to opposing offenses. That might not happen early though. If they become that dominant by the last quarter of the season that will position us for a deep playoff run.

I would be hesitant to expect to much from JOK this season as he is still just a rookie. I can see the moving him around and letting him palomalu in a year or two bit that would be too much to ask of him this year.

Depending on the amount of time he spends on defense, he also seems like a dude that would be good to have on kick/punt coverages.

When you say "Palomalu" to me it implies freelancing. I think he will be asked to perform multiple assignments but do so within the structure of the defense. Remember, this is what is appealing about a player with his abilities. We didn't trade up for him just to wait to exploit his skills 2 or 3 seasons down the road. I think they will bring him along at a pace where he can absorb the scheme and he is confident on the field. Of course, this won't be without adversity but if Baker an learn on the job I expect JOK can too.

When I say palomalu I do mean freelancing. That was an impression that I inferred from the posts of others.

I would also like to see him learn 1 job really well then add stuff on.

Just remember, Polamalu was pretty unimpressive his first season. He didn't fully become him until year 2 and 3.

I think this year will be a LOT of structure and rigidly following the scheme and calls until Woods & Co start to see him not only have a firm command of things, but also show good instincts in the little bits of freelancing he may be permitted to do. They aren't just going to allow him to do it simply because he's athletic; he still has a job to do.

That was the point I was trying to make. Thanks for reiterating it much more clearly than I did.