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Are you just being argumentative or do you really not understand the difference between the BLM protests/riots and the storming of the Capitol?


There is no difference. Wrong is wrong.


There is a big damn difference between people rioting and looting during protests about police murdering civilians because of the color of their skin AND a protest turning into a misled angry mob storming the capitol building, wanting to hang the VP and kill members of congress to help a would-be fascist despot make his big lie a reality of sorts by taking/keeping power by force. No rational reasoning person can possibly think these are the same like two peas in a pod! Come on man! I know you are are smarter than that and I don't blame you one bit for defending your political views, but this is one thing that CAN NOT AND WILL NOT just go away over partisan bickering! This was an assault on our nation, no less than 9/11, no less than pearl harbor, and no less than the british burning the white house in 1814. Those were acts of war, unlike January 6th because that attack came from within, like a very tiny civil war except it was really an insurrection. Additionally, it was absolutely incited by Donald J. Trump the loser of the 2020 election as certified and ratified by all 50 states and Congress.

I know I ran on with those sentences, but that happens sometimes in Truth Bombs.


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I do remember last summer when BLM had some violent rallies where the secret service had to take President Trump to a shelter inside the White House and you celebrated like a teenage girl. You cannot have it both ways. You either call out a wrong behavior for what it is or put up with it whether you agree with them or not. Myself, I find riots that destroy property of someone else, who threatens another person, injures another person, or terrorizes another person as wrong. Plain and simple. To take a blind eye to any of it would make you just a guilty as people were back in early 1900's when people would take a blind eye to crimes of the KKK. We should live in a better society today. Just because a crime is committed and it started with someone that fits your political agenda it does not make that crime acceptable. In our society we respect the rights of all even if we do not agree with them.

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So in your eyes - wrong is wrong and thee is no differential between a misdemeanor or a felony. Got it.


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So in your eyes - wrong is wrong and thee is no differential between a misdemeanor or a felony. Got it.


Burning building, violence on the streets are all felonies also. You cannot pretend that did not happen.

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I didn't say that.

My position is that insurrection and trying to prevent the peaceful transition of power is different than the violence and rioting that occurred all over the US on the back of BLM protests. If you want to investigate both - I'd be all for it but they are separate causations and events and separate issues that require separate investigations.

Under the guise of "wrong is wrong" you seem to merely want to muddy all the waters and not actually find root cause of anything.


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It's rather odd that you addressed the post above to me. I for one advocate that everyone involved in criminal activity in both the summer riots and the Jan. 6th insurrection be arrested and convicted for their criminal behavior. I said so on this very board when those riots during the summer took place.

Much as yourself, both were wrong and a crime is a crime.

I however do understand that there has never been an assault on our capital since 1814 by the British. I do understand the difference between social unrest and an attempted takeover of our election process. I understand the gravity and danger of installing a dictator.

It appears you don't see the difference. Or don't want to admit it as the case may be. There's a lot of that going around.


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Nashville hat shop promotes anti-vaccine yellow Star of David badge

An Instagram post promoting the yellow badge was no longer on Instagram, but the shop defended its product.

A Nashville hat shop on Saturday stood by its promotion of a yellow badge in the shape of the Star of David emblazoned with the words "NOT VACCINATED" as a few demonstrators protested outside.

Organizers planned an afternoon demonstration at Hatwrks, and social media posts showed a few protesters alongside a banner that read, "NO NAZIS IN NASHVILLE."

An Instagram post featuring the item and teasing forthcoming "trucker caps" with a similar decoration was no longer active Saturday, but Hatwrks appeared to defend its use of an anti-Semitic, Nazi-affiliated symbol as a statement on contemporary vaccination efforts.

In an Instagram post Saturday it said, "all unvaccinated people will be segregated from society, marked & must wear a mask. what comes next?"

"there is a historical parallel to fascism to be drawn," the hat shop said.

Hatwrks did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The business expressed support on its Instagram account for former President Donald Trump and conspiracy theories that the election was stolen as a result of unfounded voter fraud.

One post indicates that a store principal was at the Jan. 6 Capitol riot, where pro-Trump protesters hoped to disrupt congressional certification of the 2020 presidential win by Joe Biden.

In a Friday post, Hatwrks asked if people outraged by its yellow patch were also "outraged with the tyranny the world is experiencing," apparently in reference to government efforts to get people vaccinated amid the Covid-19 pandemic, which has claimed the lives of nearly 600,000 Americans.

Yellow badges in the shape of a Star of David were used in Nazi Germany to identify Jewish people.

Western hat maker Stetson, under pressure to cut ties with Hatwrks, tweeted Saturday afternoon that it would no longer distribute products to the store.

"As a result of the offensive content and opinions shared by HatWRKS in Nashville, Stetson and our distribution partners will cease the sale of all Stetson products," it said.

The controversy erupted after U.S. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Georgia, tweeted Tuesday about a grocery store chain that allows inoculated employees to go maskless while wearing vaccination logos on their name tags: "Vaccinated employees get a vaccination logo just like the Nazi’s forced Jewish people to wear a gold star."

Many, including fellow Republicans, condemned the comparison. "Marjorie is wrong, and her intentional decision to compare the horrors of the Holocaust with wearing masks is appalling," House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-California, said in a statement.

Responding to Hatwrks' yellow star, Nashville-area Rabbi Laurie Rice told NBC affiliate WSMV, "For me there's no question, getting vaccinated is putting the community first."

She said she would welcome a conversation with the store owner about history.

"Using the yellow star, or any Holocaust imagery for anything is a disservice to the memory of the 6 million Jews who were systematically murdered during the Holocaust," Rice said.

The patch also lit up corners of the internet. Rick Wilson, co-founder of the Lincoln Project, an organization opposed to far-right politics and Trump, tweeted of the item: "Repugnant as hell."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/nas...sm_npd_nn_fb_ma

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Originally Posted By: Day of the Dawg
I do remember last summer when BLM had some violent rallies where the secret service had to take President Trump to a shelter inside the White House and you celebrated like a teenage girl. You cannot have it both ways. You either call out a wrong behavior for what it is or put up with it whether you agree with them or not. Myself, I find riots that destroy property of someone else, who threatens another person, injures another person, or terrorizes another person as wrong. Plain and simple. To take a blind eye to any of it would make you just a guilty as people were back in early 1900's when people would take a blind eye to crimes of the KKK. We should live in a better society today. Just because a crime is committed and it started with someone that fits your political agenda it does not make that crime acceptable. In our society we respect the rights of all even if we do not agree with them.


Have a commission to investigate those issues,, That I'd agree with 100%.

But it just shouldn't be, "hey, BLM did this, so Proud Boys should get a pass on that..." If both are guilty, both should pay..

That's what it appears the Republicans want and it's just flat out idiotic...

I'm not in favor of killing the filibuster overall, but this is nuts.. It's gotta go. 54 senators voted for a commission, 35 voted against, the rest didn't vote and no commission... (why is that by the way?)

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The moment that charlatan stood at the pulpit and proclaimed ‘trump was going to be elected’ his tax exempt status should have been yanked. I’d say the same if he spoke President Biden’s name from the pulpit. If you’re stumping for a politician from the pulpit you’re not a church. He should be taxed accordingly.


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Armed with AR-15s, the Unification movement ‘expands God’s Kingdom’ to a Texas town

https://www.yahoo.com/news/armed-ar-15s-unification-movement-162748235.html

i dunno if this is republicans, or just Texans being Texans. but this is just insane.


To be far it's a 'church' in PA run by a pastor from Korea... they bought land in Texas because they think that craziness will fly down here... and maybe it will but that's some nutty stuff....


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Originally Posted By: PortlandDawg
The moment that charlatan stood at the pulpit and proclaimed ‘trump was going to be elected’ his tax exempt status should have been yanked. I’d say the same if he spoke President Biden’s name from the pulpit. If you’re stumping for a politician from the pulpit you’re not a church. He should be taxed accordingly.



agreed....


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Former Trump advisor Michael Flynn said the US should have a coup like Myanmar, where the military overthrew the democratically elected government


Former national security adviser Michael Flynn spoke at a QAnon conference in Dallas this weekend.
When asked about the coup in Myanmar, Flynn said that "it should happen here."

Myanmar's military overthrew the democratically elected government and has killed hundreds of people.


Michael Flynn, who served as President Donald Trump's national security adviser, told a crowd at a QAnon conference in Dallas, Texas, this weekend that the US should have a coup like the one in Myanmar.

On February 1, Myanmar's military overthrew its democratically elected government and arrested its leaders. The coup immediately sparked protests across the country, prompting the junta to launch a campaign against its own citizens.

Upwards of 800 Burmese people, including at least 40 children, have been killed, according to Myanmar's Assistance Association for Political Prisoners. More than 4,000 people have been arrested.

Flynn, who has become a prominent figure in the QAnon conspiracy theory, was a main attraction at the event, held at the Omni Hotel in Dallas.


In a video shared on Twitter, an attendee asks Flynn: "I want to know why what happened in Myanmar can't happen here."

The crowd immediately cheers, followed by Flynn's response: "No reason. I mean, it should happen here."


QAnon communities have praised the Myanmar coup and endorsed the idea that it should happen in the US, according to Media Matters for America.

In 2017, Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his communications with Russia. He later accused the Justice Department of entrapment and moved to withdraw his guilty plea. In November, Trump pardoned him.

https://www.businessinsider.com/michael-flynn-said-us-should-have-a-coup-like-myanmar-2021-5


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Former Trump advisor Michael Flynn said the US should have a coup like Myanmar, where the military overthrew the democratically elected government


Former national security adviser Michael Flynn spoke at a QAnon conference in Dallas this weekend.
When asked about the coup in Myanmar, Flynn said that "it should happen here."

Myanmar's military overthrew the democratically elected government and has killed hundreds of people.


Michael Flynn, who served as President Donald Trump's national security adviser, told a crowd at a QAnon conference in Dallas, Texas, this weekend that the US should have a coup like the one in Myanmar.

On February 1, Myanmar's military overthrew its democratically elected government and arrested its leaders. The coup immediately sparked protests across the country, prompting the junta to launch a campaign against its own citizens.

Upwards of 800 Burmese people, including at least 40 children, have been killed, according to Myanmar's Assistance Association for Political Prisoners. More than 4,000 people have been arrested.

Flynn, who has become a prominent figure in the QAnon conspiracy theory, was a main attraction at the event, held at the Omni Hotel in Dallas.


In a video shared on Twitter, an attendee asks Flynn: "I want to know why what happened in Myanmar can't happen here."

The crowd immediately cheers, followed by Flynn's response: "No reason. I mean, it should happen here."


QAnon communities have praised the Myanmar coup and endorsed the idea that it should happen in the US, according to Media Matters for America.

In 2017, Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his communications with Russia. He later accused the Justice Department of entrapment and moved to withdraw his guilty plea. In November, Trump pardoned him.

https://www.businessinsider.com/michael-flynn-said-us-should-have-a-coup-like-myanmar-2021-5


But calling it an insurrection would be wrong !!!


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So Trump pardoned a man known to be in alliance with a Russian agent and sharing information with Russia and Russia tried to help trump get elected.

The wheels on the bus go round and round.

And Trump is the leader of the Republican party.


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Originally Posted By: mgh888
Originally Posted By: Jester
Former Trump advisor Michael Flynn said the US should have a coup like Myanmar, where the military overthrew the democratically elected government


Former national security adviser Michael Flynn spoke at a QAnon conference in Dallas this weekend.
When asked about the coup in Myanmar, Flynn said that "it should happen here."

Myanmar's military overthrew the democratically elected government and has killed hundreds of people.


Michael Flynn, who served as President Donald Trump's national security adviser, told a crowd at a QAnon conference in Dallas, Texas, this weekend that the US should have a coup like the one in Myanmar.

On February 1, Myanmar's military overthrew its democratically elected government and arrested its leaders. The coup immediately sparked protests across the country, prompting the junta to launch a campaign against its own citizens.

Upwards of 800 Burmese people, including at least 40 children, have been killed, according to Myanmar's Assistance Association for Political Prisoners. More than 4,000 people have been arrested.

Flynn, who has become a prominent figure in the QAnon conspiracy theory, was a main attraction at the event, held at the Omni Hotel in Dallas.


In a video shared on Twitter, an attendee asks Flynn: "I want to know why what happened in Myanmar can't happen here."

The crowd immediately cheers, followed by Flynn's response: "No reason. I mean, it should happen here."


QAnon communities have praised the Myanmar coup and endorsed the idea that it should happen in the US, according to Media Matters for America.

In 2017, Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his communications with Russia. He later accused the Justice Department of entrapment and moved to withdraw his guilty plea. In November, Trump pardoned him.

https://www.businessinsider.com/michael-flynn-said-us-should-have-a-coup-like-myanmar-2021-5


But calling it an insurrection would be wrong !!!


I do think calling Jan 6th an insurrection is wrong. I don't think enough Americans appreciate the meaning of the word. We should be calling it an attempted coup - jmo

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And here’s the video:



The people who call themselves patriots stay wanting to engage in the most anti-American nonsense imaginable.


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That's a fair point -

Whether insurrection or Coup or an attempt to prevent the peaceful transition of power ... It was a truly serious and unprecedented moment in US history. Comparing it to or associating it with riots that occurred on the back of BLM protests is the Right doing everything they can to prevent the spotlight resting on them and those that support 'Hard Right' fringe culture.

This latest Flynn comment truly shows you how deranged and totally messed up the lunatic Cult of Trump is. It's sickening.


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Four more Oath Keepers indicted in Jan. 6 federal conspiracy case: court filing

A newly unsealed indictment on Sunday named additional members of the Oath Keepers, a far-right militia group that participated in the storming of the U.S. Capitol, as defendants for their role in the January 6th incident.

The court filing listed three individuals by name, Joseph Hackett, Jason Dolan, and William Isaacs, while a fourth person's name was hidden. Three of them have been arrested in recent days, court records show. It was unclear why the fourth person's name was not revealed in the court documents.

This superseding indictment, part of a larger federal government criminal conspiracy case, now includes a total of 16 Oath Keepers. The other 12 co-defendants have pleaded not guilty.

Prosecutors have said in recent weeks that others members of the militia group planned to commit violence and brought firearms into the city.

A newly unsealed indictment on Sunday named additional members of the Oath Keepers, a far-right militia group that participated in the storming of the U.S. Capitol, as defendants for their role in the January 6th incident.

The court filing listed three individuals by name, Joseph Hackett, Jason Dolan, and William Isaacs, while a fourth person's name was hidden. Three of them have been arrested in recent days, court records show. It was unclear why the fourth person's name was not revealed in the court documents.

This superseding indictment, part of a larger federal government criminal conspiracy case, now includes a total of 16 Oath Keepers. The other 12 co-defendants have pleaded not guilty.

Prosecutors have said in recent weeks that others members of the militia group planned to commit violence and brought firearms into the city.

In a Nov. 9 planning meeting for the attack, the founder of the Oath Keepers, identified as Person One in the filing, referred to the attack as an insurrection, saying "We're gonna be posted outside DC, awaiting the president's orders...We want him to declare an insurrection."

The Oath Keepers accept anyone, the recent court filing notes, but "explicitly focus on recruiting current and former military, law enforcement, and first-responder personnel."

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/four-mo...ing-2021-05-31/

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Former Trump advisor Michael Flynn said the US should have a coup like Myanmar, where the military overthrew the democratically elected government


Former national security adviser Michael Flynn spoke at a QAnon conference in Dallas this weekend.
When asked about the coup in Myanmar, Flynn said that "it should happen here."

Myanmar's military overthrew the democratically elected government and has killed hundreds of people.


Michael Flynn, who served as President Donald Trump's national security adviser, told a crowd at a QAnon conference in Dallas, Texas, this weekend that the US should have a coup like the one in Myanmar.

On February 1, Myanmar's military overthrew its democratically elected government and arrested its leaders. The coup immediately sparked protests across the country, prompting the junta to launch a campaign against its own citizens.

Upwards of 800 Burmese people, including at least 40 children, have been killed, according to Myanmar's Assistance Association for Political Prisoners. More than 4,000 people have been arrested.

Flynn, who has become a prominent figure in the QAnon conspiracy theory, was a main attraction at the event, held at the Omni Hotel in Dallas.


In a video shared on Twitter, an attendee asks Flynn: "I want to know why what happened in Myanmar can't happen here."

The crowd immediately cheers, followed by Flynn's response: "No reason. I mean, it should happen here."


QAnon communities have praised the Myanmar coup and endorsed the idea that it should happen in the US, according to Media Matters for America.

In 2017, Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his communications with Russia. He later accused the Justice Department of entrapment and moved to withdraw his guilty plea. In November, Trump pardoned him.

https://www.businessinsider.com/michael-flynn-said-us-should-have-a-coup-like-myanmar-2021-5


But calling it an insurrection would be wrong !!!


I do think calling Jan 6th an insurrection is wrong. I don't think enough Americans appreciate the meaning of the word. We should be calling it an attempted coup - jmo


Well, this is the definition of Insurrection.

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noun: insurrection; plural noun: insurrections

a violent uprising against an authority or government.
"the insurrection was savagely put down"

It fits what happened on 1/6 as well as anything I guess.

Either way, it was wrong and dangerous.


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I don't mean to imply that insurrection doesn't fit Jan 6th. It most certainly does. I just don't think the word carries the visceral emotional impact that coup does.

One thing the republicans do much better than the dems is that they have realized that you don't win an argument/debate/election based on facts. You win based on emotions. Republicans choose words that get people riles up, dems haven't figured that out yet. Dems almost do the opposite. They choose words that do little to get people excited for them but that can be easily twisted to get the opposite side fired up.


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Four more Oath Keepers indicted in Jan. 6 federal conspiracy case: court filing

A newly unsealed indictment on Sunday named additional members of the Oath Keepers, a far-right militia group that participated in the storming of the U.S. Capitol, as defendants for their role in the January 6th incident.

The court filing listed three individuals by name, Joseph Hackett, Jason Dolan, and William Isaacs, while a fourth person's name was hidden. Three of them have been arrested in recent days, court records show. It was unclear why the fourth person's name was not revealed in the court documents.

This superseding indictment, part of a larger federal government criminal conspiracy case, now includes a total of 16 Oath Keepers. The other 12 co-defendants have pleaded not guilty.

Prosecutors have said in recent weeks that others members of the militia group planned to commit violence and brought firearms into the city.

A newly unsealed indictment on Sunday named additional members of the Oath Keepers, a far-right militia group that participated in the storming of the U.S. Capitol, as defendants for their role in the January 6th incident.

The court filing listed three individuals by name, Joseph Hackett, Jason Dolan, and William Isaacs, while a fourth person's name was hidden. Three of them have been arrested in recent days, court records show. It was unclear why the fourth person's name was not revealed in the court documents.

This superseding indictment, part of a larger federal government criminal conspiracy case, now includes a total of 16 Oath Keepers. The other 12 co-defendants have pleaded not guilty.

Prosecutors have said in recent weeks that others members of the militia group planned to commit violence and brought firearms into the city.

In a Nov. 9 planning meeting for the attack, the founder of the Oath Keepers, identified as Person One in the filing, referred to the attack as an insurrection, saying "We're gonna be posted outside DC, awaiting the president's orders...We want him to declare an insurrection."

The Oath Keepers accept anyone, the recent court filing notes, but "explicitly focus on recruiting current and former military, law enforcement, and first-responder personnel."

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/four-mo...ing-2021-05-31/

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I don't mean to imply that insurrection doesn't fit Jan 6th. It most certainly does. I just don't think the word carries the visceral emotional impact that coup does.

One thing the republicans do much better than the dems is that they have realized that you don't win an argument/debate/election based on facts. You win based on emotions. Republicans choose words that get people riles up, dems haven't figured that out yet. Dems almost do the opposite. They choose words that do little to get people excited for them but that can be easily twisted to get the opposite side fired up.


Thinking rational people know what it was, but to the QOP any words you use will confuse them... You might as well be grunting at them because no matter what you say they will all look at you tucker faced.

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Multi part thread, good read, click through to see it all.

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I got through Part 1, then speed-scrolled to the end of your post.

Why?

Because I already lived through it, and bitched up a storm about all of them in Real Time.

I saw no real need to live them all a second time.

Once was enough for me.
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I get that, but there is a concerted effort on the right to downplay and rewrite this history... that should not be allowed to happen.

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I actually agree.

It's just nice to take a break from all the crazy, and watch 'normal at work'...


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Between this and Flynn advocating for an armed coup attempt, it's no wonder the GOP doesn't want to investigate their crazies. No wonder they're trying tp deflect and steer the conversation in other directions.


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This helps explain a lot....

A QAnon Power Couple Is Behind the For God & Country Patriot Roundup

The Patriot Voice, which is listed as the organizer of the For God & Country Patriot Roundup over Memorial Day weekend, doesn’t have much of a traditional online presence. Outside of Gab, Parler and some other fringe sites, it’s hard to track down the people behind the controversial event.

As it turns out, the QAnon-affiliated three-day convention is reportedly being organized by a Q power couple: John Sabal, also known as “QAnon John,” and his partner, Amy. Neither could be reached for comment.

They announced the event on Andre Popa’s “Who’s A Badass Show.” Popa is one of the speakers scheduled to appear at the event. Popa did not respond for comment.

Sabal was interviewed for an article by Business Insider last year. In September 2020, Sabal and his girlfriend were under a white tent adorned with a Q banner in a Pennsylvania parking lot outside a Donald Trump campaign rally. It’s unclear if the girlfriend in the article is Amy. He’s described as a devoted follower of the debunked online conspiracy theory QAnon who would spend his free time on Twitter, Facebook and Parler spreading theories.

After building a following under the name “QAnon John,” Sabal found himself kicked off Facebook and Twitter. He said they are now trying to rebrand at The Patriot Voice.

The logo for the event contains an acronym that stands for “Where we go one, we go all,” a QAnon mantra cribbed from the 1996 film White Squall. Other QAnon conspiracy theory promoters are scheduled to speak at the event.

The FBI has called QAnon a domestic terrorist threat, according to USA Today. It revolves around the idea that the so-called “deep state” is controlled by pedophiles among Hollywood elites and powerful Democratic politicians, all of whom are supposedly acting against former President Donald Trump.

Followers of the conspiracy theory have recently started saying “there is no QAnon.” The Observer received around 100 emails from people saying as much. As Vice explains, this isn’t followers realizing the whole thing was a sham. “[T]he reality is that surface-level QAnon disavowal is an effort by high-profile influencers to distance the conspiracy theory from the past few months of negative media coverage,” the article read.

But Sabal and Amy aren’t shy about QAnon. They make several mentions to it when promoting the event in Dallas on Popa's show.

When the couple met, Amy was deeper down the rabbit hole, she said on the show. Sabal knew about the supposed New World Order, the government controlling the weather and plots to depopulate the planet. He was a Trump supporter from Day 1, attending “the first'' inauguration. But Amy said Sabal didn’t know things, like, for example, that “John McCain' was put to death.” McCain actually died in 2018 the day after his family announced he’d stop receiving treatment for his cancer.

Amy spent a lot of nights researching and going deeper. She would tell Sabal who to follow to learn more. Sabal said, “What she did was she opened me up to the world of Anons and the wonderful number 17.” (Q is the 17th letter in the alphabet if you were wondering what the significance was).

Through her “research journey” Amy found like minds, but a lot of connections have been lost since the presidential election.

“A lot of people feel lost, confused, lonely," Sabal said. "They feel like the plan didn’t work out. They feel like Trump abandoned us. I’m here to tell you that is not the case. We’ve gotten so many coms from Trump and team since he ‘left the White House.’ I’m totally convinced that the plan is still moving forward. I believe this was actually part of the plan, as crazy as that sounds.” They said they may have misinterpreted a few of Q’s messages.

The couple wanted to bring all these people back together with an event. “Just to get patriots together is so important anyway, but now even more than ever, especially after this election,” Amy said.

They tried to plan a cruise, but said that the excursion has been postponed until 2022. So, they decided to do something on land. This is how the Dallas event was born, and Sabal has some pretty high expectations for it. “I want to make [the Conservative Political Action Conference] look like a puppy show,” Sabal said.

They say they chose Dallas for a few reasons: They want to move to the area, their church is here and it’s a good central location. Sabal said they put together the event in less than two months. “I still don’t understand how we did it except for the good lord above, a favor of god,” he said.

They locked down the contracts sometime in recent months.

The For God & Country Patriot Roundup, scheduled May 28-31, will be hosted by Gilley’s Dallas and Omni Dallas Hotel. The event will include such speakers as retired Army Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, the former national security adviser to Trump, as well as Sidney Powell, formerly a lawyer for both Flynn and Trump.

Both Flynn and Powell have promoted the baseless claim that the presidential election was stolen from Trump, and both have spread other QAnon-linked conspiracy theories.

Some of the proceeds from the event will go to the political nonprofit Defending the Republic, which Powell founded while contesting the presidential election results. The nonprofit didn't respond to the Observer's request for comment.

They liked Gilley’s because it was in the movie Urban Cowboy and because Trump had his 2016 Dallas campaign stop there. The max occupancy in the ballroom is 1,500. They also said the Omni hotel was very easy to work with and gave them a special rate of $149 a night.

A patriot block party will be held outside the Omni on Saturday. “And they’re going to light up the side of the Omni,” Sabal said. “They said we can put whatever we want on the side of the building, so I’m going to put ‘Where we go one, we go all.’”

No one from the Omni responded to confirm or deny this or elaborate on the organizers or the event. On the event, however, hotel management said in an emailed statement, “As a hospitality company, Omni Hotels & Resorts provides public accommodations and function space for many organizations, none of which reflects or indicates an endorsement for any group or individual.”

As noted by Dallas publication Central Track, this is the same city-owned hotel that took the position that it was too political to do the same thing with the slogan "Black Lives Matter."

Sabal said they went all out and spared no expense. It’s $500 for general admission and $1,000 for VIP. “The beginning of the 1776 revolution starts at Gilley’s,” Sabal said. No one at Gilley’s responded for comment.

They say they’ll be back too, with plans to make the roundup an annual event. “This is not a one and done, guys,” Sabal said. “This is going to be the start of The Patriot Voice events. I have a vision and that’s bringing patriots from all over the world together.”

A Dallasite started a petition last week calling for the event to be canceled. So far, over 1,300 people have signed it. But the last time Dallas tried to kick a convention out of town, it cost millions of dollars in a hefty settlement and court fees. So, there's a fat chance the city will try to pull the plug.

In an emailed statement, a city spokesperson said: “The city of Dallas is a welcoming city, bringing together people of many varied interests and ideas. As always, we will do our best to ensure Dallas residents and guests attending this event are safe while in our city.”

https://www.dallasobserver.com/news/a-qa...hotels-12003194

And as we all know, if this leads to something like a repeat of Jan. 6th they'll claim no responsibility for it.


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The next time they all get together in one room like that, somebody should fumigate.

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I wonder if people that heard that have a clue.. It's no possible...She's lying... Trump just tried to say the same thing.. That he'd be back by August...

Why are people so dumb as to believe this idiot?

Isn't she breaking a law? Geez.. I get free speech and all but are we really going to allow her to walk into a crowded room and yell fire?


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Hey Daman, read Old Colds post just above yours. That is an example of being JUST LIKE HITLER as you talked about in another thread.

I think you need to think about what is being said by your cohorts in this forum.


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There is no such thing as a good Hitler analogy. Just stop, please.

Everyone fails at it. Everyone.

It is an IQ test for mentally challenged. Just don't go there if you think you have a hamster that turns the wheel upstairs.


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I want daman to expound on his statement that 'trump is just like hitler."

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Hey Daman, read Old Colds post just above yours. That is an example of being JUST LIKE HITLER as you talked about in another thread.

I think you need to think about what is being said by your cohorts in this forum.


I posted that intentionally knowing it would get a rise out of the Q fans on the board. I thought that anybody defending this would just be shining a light on who they are... AND then YOU compared ME to Hitler...

Well I'll take that hit on the chin deservedly because I posted something like saying it outloud when it should probably have only been thought. I've never made it a secret that I don't like stupid people. I think those people are NOT ONLY STUPID AS HELL BUT DANGEROUS TOO. So I went marginally too far in my remarks. And I'll give you that.

But I also noticed who stepped into the spotlight and reacted as if they were offended by what I posted. So since you compared me to Hitler, I think it's more than fair for me to come straight out and ask you if you are a Q groupie? I think there are a couple in here, but I never thought you were one until I seen this and the doubt crept in. Yes or No, it's that simple.

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I don't like stupid people either.

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