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I'm ashamed of you for asking that. Really, there is enough evidence out there that if you really cared about truth, you could find it.

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Straight from the Q conference to Trump's lips......

Trump has reportedly been telling people he'll be 'reinstated' by August

After former President Donald Trump's first national security adviser Michael Flynn appeared to express support for a coup in the United States, The New York Times' Maggie Haberman reports Trump himself has been baselessly asserting he will be back in the White House this year.

Haberman tweeted on Tuesday, in response to reporting about Flynn's comments about a coup in the United States, that Trump "has been telling a number of people he's in contact with that he expects he will get reinstated by August" — confirming in a subsequent tweet she means reinstated as president.

"No that isn't how it works," Haberman added, "but simply sharing the information."

After former President Donald Trump's first national security adviser Michael Flynn appeared to express support for a coup in the United States, The New York Times' Maggie Haberman reports Trump himself has been baselessly asserting he will be back in the White House this year.

Haberman tweeted on Tuesday, in response to reporting about Flynn's comments about a coup in the United States, that Trump "has been telling a number of people he's in contact with that he expects he will get reinstated by August" — confirming in a subsequent tweet she means reinstated as president.

The reporting comes after Flynn at a QAnon conference over the weekend was asked why there can't be a coup in the United States like in Myanmar, and he said, "No reason, I mean, it should happen." He later claimed he was misquoted and said there is "NO reason whatsoever for any coup in America, and I do not and have not at any time called for any action of that sort."

CNN's Donie O'Sullivan, though, noted that for months, "talk of a Myanmar-style coup in the United States has been popular among some Trump supporters" who falsely claim he won the 2020 presidential election. MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell has also baselessly claimed that the Supreme Court will overturn the results of the election and that Trump "will be back in office in August."

Haberman notes that Trump pushing these baseless conspiracy theories about returning to office hasn't been "happening in a vacuum," but instead has been "happening as he faced the possibility of an indictment."

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-reportedly-telling-people-hell-133110019.html

You said it, you prove it.

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Cowboys for Trump leader calls for Democratic leaders to be executed

Otero County Commissioner Couy Griffin has again stirred an outcry over his fiery political rhetoric — this time for saying certain Democratic governors should be executed for treason.

Griffin, who founded the group Cowboys for Trump, also told the Daily Beast on Tuesday that anti-lockdown protesters might be justified in using violence.

During the interview, published Wednesday, Griffin said top Democrats, such as Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer and Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam, are traitors who deserve the death penalty. Both governors have imposed restrictions to curb the spread of the novel coronavirus.

“You get to pick your poison: You either go before a firing squad, or you get the end of the rope,” Griffin told the Daily Beast.

He was asked if people protesting pandemic-related shutdowns are increasingly considering violence.

“I’ll tell you what, partner, as far as I’m concerned, there’s not an option that’s not on the table,” Griffin replied.

Griffin again insisted he was speaking politically, not literally, when he said last week at a church in Truth or Consequences that “the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat.”

He repeated the comment in Tuesday’s interview just before calling for Democratic leaders to be executed, the Daily Beast said.

“Violent speech like this has no place in New Mexico politics,” Democratic Party of New Mexico Chairwoman Marg Elliston said in a statement Wednesday.“The silence from New Mexico Republican officials is deafening and implies their tacit approval of Commissioner Griffin’s behavior.”

Every Republican candidate and elected leader should condemn Griffin’s actions “unequivocally, and Griffin should resign his post,” Elliston said.

Mike Curtis, a spokesman for the state Republican Party, said the GOP had nothing to add to its response to Griffin’s earlier “dead Democrat” comment, in which it condemned the language.

“Republican Party of New Mexico wants to state for the record that any statements, whether in jest or serious about harming another individual are just plain wrong,” the party said in its statement last week.

State Democratic Party spokeswoman Miranda Van Dijk called GOP’s statement a weak response.

“They’re not calling him out at all,” she said.

Griffin has a record of making inflammatory remarks that call for violence against Democrats, Van Dijk said.

In a video posted on Twitter earlier this month, Griffin complained of being barred entry to a Walmart because he had no face mask.

“It might be a lead up to a civil war,” Griffin said in the video. “And if we do have a civil war over this, maybe that’s gonna be the uniforms. Maybe one of the uniforms will have masks on and the other ones won’t.”

Years before being elected Otero County commissioner, Griffin was a traveling street preacher who rode a horse to draw a crowd. He still attends some events on horseback.

And the fiery oratory style he once plied as a preacher he now uses for political rhetoric. Critics say he takes violent imagery too far in his speech.

In an interview last week with New Mexican columnist Milan Simonich, Griffin defended himself, saying, “I’m the target of lies and slander, horrible slander. There’s no uproar from the left over that.”

https://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/l...d8a4e0120e.html



At one point in time people thought I was going overboard by telling liberals they needed to arm themselves. Not so much anymore.

I told people violence was coming before the 6th and was laughed at in here.

Some people just have a problem grasping the fact that words have consequences.

I'll give it a shot. Note that some of these observations are mine and others come from various articles and publications that I am not going to footnote because this is a message board and not a term paper.

1st thing to note is that when people compare trump to hitler, they are comparing trump to 1934 hitler. People who refuse to see the similarities try to compare trump to 1944 hitler.

Let's start with appearances (for levity's sake). Both have goofy hair.

Both focus on having rallies where they talk loudly and try to stir up the masses yet rarely say anything of substance. They promote slogans without having real policy to back it up.

Both manipulate the media that people get. Hitler gave out free radios that only got one frequency. Trump would bombard us on twitter. Add that to the support of fox, oan, newsmax etc and large portions of the population get only one story line. Theirs.

Both Trump and Hitler waged war on the idea of objective truth. Hitler coined the term “lugenpresse” (lying press) to castigate the mainstream newspapers bent on exposing his lies. Trump insists that he is the target of “fake news” invented by a lying mainstream press.

Both focus on ethnicity politics. Blame the jews or blame the mexicans or blame the muslams...
Hitler was a racist. Jews, gypsies, Slavs, homosexuals and the afflicted were sent to the camps. Trump’s ban on Muslims, his tirade against four congresswomen of color who stood up to him, his rhetoric regarding Baltimore’s black people — asserting that they are somehow subhuman — clearly brand him as a white supremacist racist.

In order to solidify power, Hitler abolished the judiciary in Germany. President Trump was in the process of stacking the federal courts (including the Supreme Court) with judges who share his ideology. The same effective result — no justice.

Hitler hardened Germany’s border, restricting travel to and from the country, and engaging in trade wars designed to benefit German industry. Trump bans Muslims, wants to build a wall on the Southern border, and has initiated trade wars with China, India, Europe, Canada, and Mexico.

Hitler used the pretext of the Reichstag fire in 1933 to declare a “national emergency” justifying the exercise of unilateral Executive power. Trump has used multiple declarations of non-existent national emergencies to ignore Congress.

Both Hitler and Trump demanded personal loyalty instead of loyalty to country and constitution.

Both led failed coup attempts. On November 8, 1923 hitler led the Beer Hall Putsch. January 6 2021 Trump instigates the the storming of the Capitol.

Both replaced/are trying to replace leaders who would disagree with them about anything.

How is that for starters?

That was great. Thanks. So, not really like Hitler at all.

Hair? Who cares. Look at the current president.

Rallies? Uh......what?

Manipulate the media? You do know the media was anti Trump from even before day one, right?

Yup, the press lied, agree with you there.

Ethnicity politics....hmmm.......letting illegals in this country is ethnicity politics? Why even have laws then?

Trump stacked the courts? Like, dems don't do that when they have power? C'mon man.

And anti muslim? Anti asian? What? The travel bans came about because of the coronavirus. People bitched about it then - xenophobia was tossed around on here, a LOT........but recently people that bitched about that have been saying "should've banned travel sooner."

Different topic here: I see some idiots on here griping about this that and the other thing about the past president, but then supporting the exact same damn crap from this president.

It doesn't matter what the topic is, the libs gripe about anything Trump did, while applauding anything biden does. Dude doesn't even know what day it is.


I've tried to stay out of this recently, but the 2 facedness is nauseating, really.

Oh, by the way, Trump isn't president anymore. Nor will he ever be again.

So, no, your post didn't help much.



Sorry damian can't reply for himself.

I thought you put together a good post. For me - I am not a fan of comparing Trump to Hitler or anyone else. Trump is bad enough all by himself, he doesn't need to be put alongside someone else - and in fact doing so just shifts the conversation as it has done here.
Having said that - whether it is Hitler or (choose another) dictator - there are definite and systematic ploys in place with Trump that mirror those of dictators and despots around the globe. The points I have quoted from you hit those issues.


1. Call the media the enemy of the people - so much so that even when the Media have hard facts and evidence to support criticism of Trump, his fan boys dismiss it out of hand. That's a Dictator Play.

2. Lies - Trump lied constantly. Part of it was ignorance / stupidity - part of it was constant narrative manipulation.

3. Absolutely Trump cared more about fealty to him above all else. Within his closest 'advisors' and we saw/heard it with diplomatic relations.

4. He has a fondness and admiration for other dictators and despots.

5. He campaigned and generated fear/passion based on xenophobic policy/issues. Remember the WEEKS of immigrant caravan wall to wall Faux News hysteria that all vanished overnight? Remember the 'Sht hole countries'. Remember the treatment of Puerto Rico after their disaster? *Edit - and I didn't even need the constant pandering and dog whistles that were sent to the White Supremacists)

6. Total lack of financial transparency and tight regulations. I listened to a very long NPR segment about this within the last 48 months and how Trump has blocked regulations that would make foreign investment and financial transactions more transparent.

At the end of the day I think many or most recognize Trump is a P.O.S human being out only for himself without a single sincere, compassionate, selfless bone in his body. Those that think he's a great POTUS won't be swayed by facts or sound debate. History will be the judge. It's unfortunate that the GOP is still controlled by Trump - we'll see at what point things change.

Who has said Trump was a great president? I'll wait.

And how is Trump still controlling the gop? I'll wait.












Only people I know saying that are the libs in here.

Trump is not president, in case you weren't aware. We now have a different president.

Sometimes I wonder if the constant griping about trump is a deflection of the dude that is president. I won't go into details of calling Biden names. I have class.

Great post. I agree that the comparison to hitler is distracting. You could easily substitute mussolini for hitler. Or pretty much any dictator. THhy all use the same playbook.

There is a significant proportion of republicans that would disagree that he isn't president any more. And we don't know that he won't run in 2024. If he does, he will most likely win the republican nomination and once it is down to 2 people it really is anybody's ballgame.

Sorry you can't look at the similarities objectively.

I can't believe you don't see how trump is still in control of the GOP.

I don't have time to go into depth but I'll leave you with 2 words.
Liz Chaney

Well, I guess I don't live for studying the gop. I am me. Trump doesn't speak for me, or the party.

Damn............the only time I hear about Trump anymore is on here.

100% accurate.

He still lives rent free in their head. Its better for them than to examine why the country has so many crises that Biden is ignoring.

There are lots of people who thought Trump is / was great. If you don't know that - then you need to get out and about more.

As for Trump and the GOP. This is from MAY 7th 2021.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congres...ithout-n1266684

Quote from Lindsey Graham “I would just say to my Republican colleagues: 'Can we move forward without President Trump?' The answer is no,”

Your trolling is getting old and you need some new schtick. Everything you write these days is wrong or has zero substance to it. But hey - if it's all you got, rock on with it.

Ask me if I care what you or anyone thinks. I'll help you. Its in my siggy.

But go on and continue your obsession with Trump and your forum lib circle jerk.

I feel sorry for you.

That's neat and all...........I mean, you found an article.

How about talking to me, with me. Trump is gone. I don't let the media dictate my thoughts. I'm sure that's a foreign thing for you, but it isn't for me,

So now I guess fox, breitbart, GOPer politicians, and other right wing media never talks about Trump... smh. Some people live in NOT REALITY.

Not really. Not like the obsessed liberals do. Trump is your favorite topic. You turn a blind eye to current events and Bidens lack of leadership.

I'll continue to talk about Trump when the conversation goes there. Thanks. The rest? Exactly what I would expect.

Sorry - now you are just trying to be cute.

There was a discussion - I contributed. The topic was Trump and a comparison to Hitler. I explained in a lengthy post with sentances, grammar and structure in my own words what I thought. Now because of that I've got two posters claiming I'm obsessed with Trump. I am a Libtard and I can only post articles? ....

No - you said no one supports Trump or thought he did great. Clearly wrong.

You asked me to provide substance to my observation that Trump still runs the GOP. I showed you a quote from Lindsey Graham from a couple weeks ago saying the GOP can't move on without Trump.

You want to discuss something - go ahead and ask me questions or take a stance on something, propose something. Don't challenge me on something and when I provide the response to your specific challenge, tell me I can only post articles.

So that's your take? Trump controls the GOP, because Lindsey Graham says so?? That's like saying Disney is the best because Mickey Mouse says so.

Seems pretty weak, but hey -- to each his own.

damion was asked. You chimed in with literal cnn garbage. Next question.

I notice you haven't replied to my post earlier, other than this last one.



You used to be a decent poster. That has changed, apparently due to Trump derangement syndrome.

I also notice that you, and others, bitch and gripe about stuff from a republican (if trump was that - I mean, he used to be a democrat), yet ignore the same issues if a democrat says/does the same thing.

This politics thing.............it's stupid. And it shows in the libs posting. Pretty much verbatim we hear from the libs exactly what the mainstream media tells them to think.

I don't even watch the news. I make up my own mind, without some talking head telling me what I should think.

It would be nice if others could do that.

I absolutely think the GOP is controlled by and is terrified of Trump and his base.

I haven't seen another post. I'll check.

As for the rest of your crap - you've tried really hard to chime in where you thought you could score points on something I write. I've noticed. You never actually engage in a dialogue - just try the "gotcha" moment thing like this here, then go on to say "you used to be a good poster" .... I think you've repeated that to me several times since I wrote that to DC. DC had just made a spurious post about inflation while COMPLETELY ignoring the impact of Covid on construction sites for the last 12 months and pinning blame on Biden - so it was wholly justified....

Anyway - just so you know as fact, I think I might have caught less than 5 minutes of CNN in the last 18 months and that would have been in a hotel lobby at breakfast. But thanks. Don't address the topics - attack the source? Sounds like a playbook I've heard about.

If this is the post you thought I was ignoring?? I didn't think it was worth responding to. If not point me to a different post.

1. If you don't listen to any news - how would you know or say only Libs alk about Trump and the GOP?
2. Yes we have a different president. He hasn't got any scandals - unless you want to being one to the table to discuss? I can't speak to others - but while Trump remains the hateful soul of the GOP then I'll continue to reference and discuss him as and when the conversation goes in that direction. We had multiple years of talking about Hilary - she never was the POTUS. So I am not following the logic.
3. There is no deflection from Biden. Clearly you don't like him because you talk about not calling him names is some sort of achievement. Hmmm - I wasn't a Biden fan. I will criticize him when I think it's warranted. I think he's probably done better than I was expecting because he has literally tried to be a "for everybody President" - he's not doing (to my knowledge) interviews with one media outlet, he's not spewing hate and blaming all the problems on the world on the previous President, I read what he said on Memorial Day and I thought it was light years beyond anything Trump ever said as POTUS ... I'm no fan boy but the bar was set ridiculously low.

But hey ... maybe you'd like my posts and think I was a swell guy if like another poster I blamed Biden for the stimulus checks the government has sent out and claim the country only has slackers because of the Libtards?

Biden doesnt have any scandals?




There's that deviant son of his.

He hasnt dealt with the border crisis AT ALL, and now states are declaring an emergency.

He hasnt dealt with this new crisis of hackers wrecking our infrastructure and food supply by Russians.

China is ramping up for nuclear war with us.

Inflation is out of control.

Crime is skyrocketing across the country.

I could go on and on.

It would be nice if Biden could grow some balls to deal with current problems.

I will never stop hating on Trump or his ilk. They tried to make my country a fascist state, tried to overthrow the duly elected POTUS, and I for one am pretty damn sure Trump is a traitor through and through.

But don't think for a second that I/we are not watching Biden's admin like a hawk. I don't trust 99% of the politicians and their crews in DC or at state level. And I think that is obvious, but I won't press the point and interrupt your butthurt lib hate.

Right, I have seen you make exactly zero posts about what Biden is (not) doing to tackle the country's problems.

It's not cute, it's what he does. Next thing you know you'll start taking bans for things others do every day in here. That's why he's the only poster I've ever blocked and my life is better for it.

Biden wont even talk about these problems when asked by reporters. He keeps saying no comment. He rather tell grandpa stories in press conferences.

Ahhh... got it. So you and Lindsey Graham.

Donald Trump Jr. joins Cameo


Donald Trump Jr. made his debut on Cameo this week, where he will be selling personalized video messages to fans, starting at just over $500.

Trump's account is set up to deliver video messages for $525 if fans want to receive them in two to seven days. For quicker messages, fans can opt to get a video delivered in less than 24 hours, which will cost them $787, according to the Independent.

Fans of former President Trump's oldest son can also message him directly for $19.99.

“Don’t worry about it if your wife’s mad at you for saying that election night 2016 was the happiest night of your life ... there’s millions of people just like you, you can tell her I said that,” Trump Jr. said in a video to an Australian supporter. “Thanks for helping us out and support us in going after the liberals and the crazies on CNN.”

Trump Jr. says in his account bio that a portion of the proceeds he receives will go to charity.

"Father, Patriot, Outdoorsman, Businessman, Political Commentator and #1 NYT Bestselling author. A portion of proceeds will be donated to Shadow Warriors Project," his bio reads.

Trump Jr.'s latest venture comes after he recently complained about the "millions" he has sustained in legal bills due to the multiple ongoing criminal probes into the Trump Organization.

In a recent appearance on "Tucker Carlson Tonight," Trump Jr. slammed New York Attorney General Letitia James for her investigation, which recently announced it is working in coordination with a separate probe from the Manhattan District Attorney's Office.

“I think it’s political persecution, and I know that because she literally campaigned on it. She was going to investigate the crimes. The problem is it wasn’t as though she was a part of this office. She had no idea but, in New York, it’s OK to try to persecute your political enemies, to try to target them, to try to hurt them and they’ve been doing that for over five years,” Trump said on Fox News.

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/556563-donald-trump-jr-joins-cameo

Boy I got some things I'd like him to say on video and $500 would be a steal. lmao

Staying focused on the ex-president is the diversion tactic.

I think most who take the time can see that things are falling apart under the new command, so they focus on the old.

Heck, even Iran. They have warships headed towards American waters. Even they see how screwed up we are under the new command.

As for President Biden, he doesn't comment because he doesn't know how to respond when taken off script. He just isn't a capable person at this stage of his life.

Like I said some time back, this is near to the same as watching "Weekend at Bernies". Prop the guy up, take him backstage for the next show and tell.

I agree with 100% of your post except for the following.



I honestly don't think that Trump is a full-blown 'white supremacist racist', but I also don't think he's above using race as a weapon in getting what he wants. I don't think he hates Mexicans because they're not white, I just think he sees the illegal immigration topic as a means to rile up a portion of the population to earn their loyalty. Maybe that's just an overly wordy description of racist, but there's at least a small difference, IMO.

Trump didn't stack the courts. There were vacancies that his predecessor(s) didn't fill, so he went ahead and filled them. If you're ticked off about that, you should take it up with his predecessor. With the Kavanaugh nomination (who has voted with the liberal justices on numerous occasions), I can sympathize with your argument, but that heat is best put on McConnell. He was the architect of that circus.

I think your ire regarding the last quoted paragraph is similarly misplaced. With the exception of my 'racist' rebuttal above, Trump attempted to (overly-aggressively) enforce the laws that we had on the books before he got into office. Illegal immigration was a cluster long before he was elected and (it appears) will remain a cluster for the foreseeable future. It's the laws that we have on the books and the processes we have in place that makes up the problem. Similarly with the trade disputes, Trump (correctly) tried to address trade deficiencies that we had previously signed ourselves up for. Obviously, the method that he addressed those left a lot to be desired, and the end results didn't measure up to what he said was going to happen. I think he did slightly improve some of the trade agreements in place, but I won't argue with anyone that asserts that the end result wasn't worth the effort/pain.