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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
He might have two options:

1. Cleveland
2. Wait for a team to have an injury or need at the DL.

The second is more risky obviously, but maybe he thinks it’s a better chance to make more money


Option 2 would be crazier by the day. Assuming Berry didn't offer something stupid low, Sheldon is going to be waiting until camps start, someone to get injured or completely be not what the team thought they were before they come knocking on his door. Then his chances narrow because in order to leverage that teams desperation for more $$ than what he was offered here the guy he's replacing would likely have to be a starter AND a team with enough cap room.

I'd still really like it if he chose Option 1.


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Lol same here


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Thanks. I hope I'm doing better also lol laugh

Garrett is now the LEADER of our DL that is why he should make contact about coming back. $$$ whether he has it or not should not matter that is up to the finance guys on the team. We are not talking about Garrett telling Sheldon to take a pay cut on his contract then it would be the wrong person.


But Sheldon was released and he has to get a job somewhere.

signing here might be the best deal for him...then when we win the SB if he wishes to make a boat load of money I'm sure he can wink


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I'm of the opinion that if a first-teamer goes down after the season starts, a team would just be looking for a body, not a high price tag.

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We signed Clowney who easily could play inside often.
We signed a DT that spent 11 months in prison and hasn't played and NFL down after being drafted in 2017.
We signed a DT who is a 32 yr old vet and started one game, although played in 16.
We drafted DT Tommy Togiai (who I think might be a very valuable mid-round pick) in the 4th round.
We signed UDFA Marvin Wilson.

Call me crazy but I don't think this illustrates the FO/coaching staffs enthusiasm at bringing back Richardson. It seems like we are are bringing a lot of bodies in (outside of Clowney) to see what sticks alongside a rotation of Jackson, Billings, and Phillips.

Call me crazy but I think the public quotes about bringing Richardson back are to placate, well, the public.




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Oh well time to move on.

I liked Sheldon and I wish him well.

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I don't see how you can get the Withers' conclusion from that list of moves. Not a single person on that list adds up to Richardson's impact for the Browns.


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I don't see how you can get the Withers' conclusion from that list of moves. Not a single person on that list adds up to Richardson's impact for the Browns.


As opposed to another list of moves?

Whether or not the impact of signings is similar to Richardson is irrelevant. He wasn't coming back so they signed many guys to see who would stick.


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-Clowney was brought in to play DE
-The prison guy hasn't played a down of football in years
-The Eagles guy started a whopping 1 game last year
-Marvin Wilson was a former late rounder, and we drafted a guy in the 4th

None of those things even comes close to replacing Richardson, and it jives with the reports earlier in the offseason that they wanted him back (at the right price). I'm bummed Richardson won't be back, but I applaud Berry and co. for sticking to their guns/system. I see a couple of people on that list as long-shots, so I'm hoping one pans out in a big way.


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None of those things even comes close to replacing Richardson


The disconnect is the above, I think. I don't think one signing replaces Richardson either, but that's not the point. It was to get $12M off the books and the Browns feel like they can get similar value with other players for cheaper. The bevy of signings I listed along with the other guys of Jackson, Billings, and Phillips on the interior tended to favor that direction.

Clowney possibly playing inside too lessened Richardson utility, maybe.


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The question isn't really about what they're trying to do. I agree with what you're saying in that department and at this point that seems obvious.

The only real question is will it work? Considering who they've signed since Richardson left makes that a huge question.


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So he took less than we offered? I thought we offered 4 mil?

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He did, if the reports are correct. I think he saw our other signings (plus drafting Togiai) as a sign that he could possibly end up JAG in Cleveland. Besides the notion that he put his tail between his legs to come back. Now he's back in the NFC where there will be a whole new set of eyeballs on him as a FA next year.


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So he took less than we offered? I thought we offered 4 mil?


Sounds like it based on previous reports. I guess Sheldon just wanted to move on.

I have to give our FO credit. They seem pretty dialed in when it comes to a players market worth.


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We offered more than 4 million. So yes he took less to sign with the Vikings.


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Two predictions on Sheldon leaving:

The FO really likes Elliott and we will see why;

After he retires, Sheldon will say that his biggest regret was not re-signing with the Browns

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Stupid pride kept him from making more.


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What a dipdong. Makes less money this year...leaves a playoff team...and will get cut again next year due to a stupid, unrealistic cap hit.

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What a dipdong. Makes less money this year...leaves a playoff team...and will get cut again next year due to a stupid, unrealistic cap hit.


That may be true but feelings and ego can be big factors. I don't use these terms in anyway mean , just that everyone has feelings and ego.

Most people want to be wanted and the Browns cutting him and asking him back for less might be something many people would struggle with. Take football out of it, imagine you working for a company and they ask you to take a pay cut so they can hire your "replacement". Just saying that human feelings can factor and they don;t always make sense to others.

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Since leaving the Jets I think we were the only team he stayed for more than ONE Year. And after he leaves us probably the same.

He has more talent than anyone on our roster (got to see how Elliot looks after losing 10 lbs of fat) Malik, Billings and Elliot might make a good DT rotation. Team work is key for the D. They have to become clockwork in their twists and discipline in the Gap attacks. We need one or more penetrating on the inside and Garrett with Clowney on the other side will destroy teams.

This could be the most awesome defense we have had since our rebirth in 1999.

Berry is the best GM we have had let alone our HC who got coach of the year in his first year. With all the Asst. Coaches returning I'm so so glad my health seems to be coming along I've had some major scares since January and have spent most of this time in the hospital. Forget about the 1mil + in hospital bills right now I'm trying to walk again as my legs have gotten totally weak since laying in bed 24/7. Lost major blood and so I'm now on O2 24/7 as Hemoglobin are low and must get up there so I may breath on my own.

Sorry to talk about my personal problems. Mentally I am worried as I think I got to sell my house and go Town House so I have no stairs to climb but my Tenant is really getting into the house (big back yard) with his kids which he gets often in his breakup with wife. they are learning how to ride a bike in the back yard with nice soft grass to fall into. Will try to make a stipulation for them to keep the Tenant for at least one year. I'm hoping rich people from the City will buy which might make it hard for them to rent???

Young man is an ex football player of mine and he hasn't missed one days rent. Best tentant I can get. What to do, what to do... superconfused


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The rest will will work out on it's own.

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You know, we've had discussions about whether you would work somewhere making less money where you feel happy or more money at a place you aren't happy. Many posters said if they could still make a decent living they would like to work somewhere they would be more happy because work takes up a large portion of your life.

Which sounds like a wonderful way of thinking. I guess, of course, that's until somebody else does it.


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which makes me believe he'll come back here next year LOL


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You know, we've had discussions about whether you would work somewhere making less money where you feel happy or more money at a place you aren't happy. Many posters said if they could still make a decent living they would like to work somewhere they would be more happy because work takes up a large portion of your life.

Which sounds like a wonderful way of thinking. I guess, of course, that's until somebody else does it.


That 'model' is completely irrelevant to professional athletes.

Employees and business owners will likely work until they are 65+. If you are 40 and looking at another 25 years on the grind, you absolutely look to be happy...or happier...or not miserable...and money becomes less of a factor.

Professional athletes have 10 years - if they are lucky - to make their money that could/would/should last the rest of their lives...and maybe their children's lives. What happened to the 'ole..."I have to do the right thing for my family"..."I have to provide for my family"? The cliches we hear when a pro moves on from his team?

It's not like the situation where a vet is moving on due to age or salary cap and is looking for a shot with a playoff team. SR took less money...on a worse team...with the same nothingness guaranteed for 2022+

I'm sure his ego took a hit and that's perfectly normal. But where is the slight? The Browns offered him what appears to be 100% more than did any other team.

He needs/needed a friend to tell him that.

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I don't know, I understand what you are saying, but people do come to a point where money isn't a driving factor.

Richardson has been paid a lot of money thus far in his career. If he is comfortable with whatever he already has in the way of "things" and has followed sound financial advice and has X $millions in savings, pride and principal could play a bigger role than you think.

Richardsons $3.5mil this season is about as much as a well paid board member will make in 30 years.


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