DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Donovan Peoples-Jones.

His combine was off the charts for a 6th round pick. Dripping with athleticism.



Then early in the season I saw him play and was like, this dudes combine doesn't translate, it happens for some guys. He came on a little bit, would love to see a jump because he is clearly an athlete, but we've seen it hundreds of times, most of the best athletes in the world can't play football.

I'm looking forward to watching DPJ in 2021. I don't expect him to be high on the snap count early on, but who knows, if he is part of some big plays, his time on the field may increase.

I wonder what is role will be like after OBJ and/or Landry are gone?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ-H2zLIYsM

If the Browns could overcome their history and get a good eye to recognize the players that will end up really really good wide receivers then the team might really be on to something.

Interested in what you mean by "doesn't translate". You make it sound so permanent. I thought there were at least a few "there's a real football player" moments with DPJ last season despite him looking a little rough around the edges.

When I look at the Browns on paper I truly wonder how anyone will deal with this lineup one of the things we as Browns fans don't really look at is how do you shut the Browns down?

They said that teams last season dared Bake to beat them they loaded up to stop Chubb and Hunt, but when faced with that scenario towards the end of last season especially Bake took defenses apart. I think that teams that focus on stopping Chubb and Hunt are about to get beat like never before. It was also said that KC focused on Chubb and Hunt, let them try that this year. Oh and it was when we were facing KC that I realized how critical that we have the very element that OBJ brings to the table. The thing Bake needs to focus on is letting the game come to him when it comes to the use of OBJ and the pieces will simply fall in place.

The defense is another animal or ingredient that has been added to the mix this year. Teams are bound to try to plow our defense under. I believe they are going to be faced with a situation where they have to try to throw the ball against our defense and we are loaded up in this area to take that away. In reading what is being said the Browns as a defense don't think you can run the ball enough to keep up and that when you go to the pass they have some answers.

Some folks think 100 catches for 1,400 yards and 15 TD's is about right

Well anything less makes it a wasted draft pick.

Yeah, players should start out great and stay there. If you have to grow in to a job, you are a flunkie.

I agree. When we picked him, he was just a 6th rounder with potential upside due to physical ability. He began to show last year that he may, indeed, be able to hit the ceiling people projected for him; but, there's a reason he was a 6th rounder, and those deficiencies take time to develop past. In year two, we get to see if last year was a flash in the pan or if he picks up where he left off and continues to grow & progress toward that ceiling, or beyond.

j/C

Don't know if this has been mentioned. Stefanski said something to the effect that DPJ just does his job and was surprisingly mature in terms of assignment execution.

Before he got any touches his blocking stood out to the coaches.

So imagine how he'll help when he's not even a receiving target. How will Stefanski deploy him so that other guys get clean releases or he can chip in the run game? That's along with his receiving ability.

The Question should be, how do Demetric Felton and DPJ compare and contrast as Wide Receivers.
I think fans could really be excited about Felton, he could make some plays.

I was channeling my inner THROW LONG.

Make no mistake about it.
I don't think Schwartz belongs in the NFL, at least not in the sense that a 3rd round pick was used on him.

Maybe after 5 years of development,
, ... , the phrase "used on him" the screen went flash white and had to reset... I think the secret watchers are screen shotting my post again for to take make sure I'm not a kidnapper or something,
baseball Coach lives and d;;s by his choice of a relief pitcher, caused the ole white flash and screen resets in 2012 ish.

anyway, back to Schwartz, (Sorry the team won't admit it was a bad mistake to use a 3rd on a player, who won't turn into a real receiver for probably 4 to 5 years,
Hodge I don't like, but Hodge is far more along to
"not ruining offensive drives with mistakes, than probably Schwartz is.

And if Schwartz could return punts, why would the Cle. Plain Dealer guys say, "if someone else would catch the ball and hand it to him", I mean,

look, IF! The NFL draft actually takes place as it's presented to the public, ( and not previously done in a secret location where they could take weeks to make up their minds)

then the teams continuously have to make decisions in 15 minute time windows, sometimes fewer minutes,
and sometimes, those decisions are rushed and are just bad decisions.

So, Media and the actual team, using the idea or concept that since players like Jordan Elliott and or Anthony Schwartz were drafted, and before the 5th,
means they have to make a team

Well, then it just is what it is.
Whether they can play worth anything or not.

Why do you even read his malarkey? The dude just spews crap left and right.

I enjoy the fact that 'malarkey' is making a comeback.

I want to see 'serendipity' come back

^ Does this guy cheer when he attends games or know of anyone who does.
What is the purpose, who is the real audience.

I swear, you don't have any clue....Not one

Not only that it's making a comeback... but that it's showing it's face here courtesy of an ambidextrous crap spewer!

It will when it's meant to happen.

On this we agree 100%.

Sure, I mean his athleticism just didn't jump off the field like his combine results suggest. When I see a guy with those type of numbers I sort of expect them to look faster, more explosive than other guys. Just didn't see that last season, especially early in the season on Punt Returns and whatnot, looked slow actually which was very surprising.

Like I said, plenty of track stars, record breaking speedsters than fizzled out in the league so he wouldn't be the first to have his athleticism not translate. Doesn't mean he can't play, but typically when you see guys with crazy combine numbers and little to no production in college you're sort of hoping that burst and speed at the combine translates.

Seems like a good young man, so hopefully he can carve out a nice little career for himself. Would love to see him get a second contract.

Sure, he played great for a 6th round pick. Just thought his combine numbers were so dynamic we would have seen something more in terms of athleticism. Sort of explains how a guy so athletic could have such poor production in college. Punt returns looked horrible early in the season, not a ton of separation on routes....maybe Harbaugh is just a bad coach?


Seems like a great kid, love to see him improve.

Captain Obvious here, but it also has a lot to do with the others in the WR-room. I don't care who you are or where you've come from, if you're new to this WR room, you're looking up at a few people ahead of you in the pecking order.

His own numbers were "not at all the result of his performance"? Not sure that's how that works. His numbers were pathetic regardless of system. He was a 5 star recruit that went to a pro style system and produced a whopping 438 yards his final season. No need to make excuses for the guy.

Nice kid by all accounts, hell of an athlete, made some plays. Didn't look as athletic as his eye popping combine numbers, was a rookie 6th rounder and made some nice contributions. I'd say even if he doesn't play, his results last year alone were 6th round pick worthy. Most of those guys don't make it.

And I think that's where the biggest problem in the miscommunication lies. For a sixth round pick he contributed well and earned his draft status. Where it goes from there is anyone's guess.

He had trash QB play at ichigan.
If he’d had played with even an average college QB his numbers would have been better.

He made the most of the opportunities he was handed..

I will say this because I actually believe it.

In the first four rounds, you are hoping for a player that will have some immediate impact.

Beyond that it is anyone’s guess.

If the player is talented and dedicated, there should be a big jump from year 1 to 2. That is the point where you begin to know if you have a sustainable NFL player. They have had a full off season to dedicate to their job, and they are surrounded by every possible thing to help them succeed. But they have to want it too.

A few years ago the Browns drafted 3 receivers in the latter rounds. Higgins is the only one that remains. He worked hard and it became evident that he deserved a roster spot. So even though he did not get the big money, he will probably be in the league for a while. Most never make it to a second contract. It’s the NFL in the salary cap era, When you have a 100 million dollar player you need 10 making the minimum.