I have to some extent. At the moment it appears the vaccines protect against it. But with less than 50% of our population being fully vaccinated, it is by far the most contagious variant to date.
What I think some people seem to be unaware of is that until Covid is dealt with on a global scale these variants will keep evolving and becoming stronger. This is truly a situation where it's a global issue and not just us "us" issue.
And yes, this 100%
Everything has been so politicized (and we, being the idiots that we are, so galvanized) here in the US, that we've been too busy pointing fingers at each other and ignoring the fact that the true enemy (meaning possible variants, deadly outbreaks, exponential growth) lies beyond our borders.
Thank you for posting that. I read through it and a handful of my assumptions on the laws around at-will employment were wrong, so I appreciated the read.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
Yeah, where I grow concerned - and this has 0% to do with politics - is something developing overseas (like COVID originally did), which is vaccine resistant and this whole shebang happening all over again.
The experts don't seem to concerned about that currently, but it is frustrating to see some of the other countries - who are not impoverished - fall flat on their face when it comes to vaccinations.
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Yeah, where I grow concerned - and this has 0% to do with politics - is something developing overseas (like COVID originally did), which is vaccine resistant and this whole shebang happening all over again.
The experts don't seem to concerned about that currently, but it is frustrating to see some of the other countries - who are not impoverished - fall flat on their face when it comes to vaccinations.
Obviously this is just my opinion here, but I think we are in for a long series of this. Maybe not next week, but Mother Nature has been pretty kind to us for a good while. There is no reason to think she won't throw more curveballs our way, not to mention some goofball who dreams up something in a lab.
Science has kept us in front of things for the last 100 years, but it hasn't always been that way and there is no guarantee it won't be that way again.
120 years ago nearly every family had a baby die of something and people died in their 40's all the time. I know to most 120 years seems like a long time, but it not all that long ago. All of my grandparent were born in the 1800's except for my Grandma Ruth, and she was born in 1904.
As Kenny Chesney sang, don't blink
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
Iowa man convicted of assault over mask fight sentenced to 10 years
The man is accused of gouging the victim's eye, kneeing him in the genitals and spitting and coughing on him, saying, "If I have it, you have it."
An Iowa man convicted of assaulting a man who told him to pull his mask up last year was sentenced Wednesday to 10 years in prison, according to a court representative.
Shane Michael, 42, was convicted last month to willful injury causing serious injury — a Class C forcible felony, according to court records — which has a mandatory 10-year prison term.
Jodi Heims, a records supervisor with the Polk County Clerk of Court Office confirmed that he was sentenced last week to 10 years in prison.
Michael was arrested on Nov. 11 following the altercation at an eyeglass store in Des Moines, according to a police report.
The victim, Mark Dinning, told Des Moines police that he told Michael as he was in the store that his mask was low on his face, the report said. Dinning, 60, said Michael got angry, and the two had a verbal argument.
When Dinning left the store, Michael followed him, cornered him outside and started to assault him, Dinning told police. Michael gouged Dinning's eye, kneed him in the genitals where he had recently had surgery and spit and coughed on him, saying, "If I have it, you have it."
Dinning said he bit Michael to try to stop the assault.
Michael told police that he was acting in self defense after Dinning "shoulder-checked" him when the two left the store, the police report said. Michael said Dinning had also "jabbed his thumb in his stomach."
But two witnesses said Michael started the physical confrontation. One recounted that Michael followed Dinning into the parking lot, cornered him and assaulted him, the police report said. There were no cameras in the parking lot.
Michael was charged with assault causing serious injury, according to court records. He was offered a plea deal that would have had him plead to willful injury causing bodily injury, a Class D felony, the Iowa Capital Dispatch reported. But Michael rejected the offer and opted to take his case to a jury.
Michael's attorney did not respond to repeated requests for comment.
Holding China Accountable: A Republican Call to Action & Roadmap for Covid-19 Accountability
A letter to House Republicans from Leader Kevin McCarthy:
Last week, I wrote to you saying that our country was dealt a significant blow by the coronavirus and that the Democrats in Congress and the White House have no plan to hold China accountable.
This letter offers eight pillars we will introduce to deliver transparency and justice as Republicans continue to lead on behalf of the American people.
As of June, more than 600,000 Americans and 3.8 million people have died worldwide as a result of Covid-19.
The unfortunate reality is that countless friends and family members could have been saved had it not been for the deception of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP). A March 2020 report by the University of Southampton found if interventions in China could have been conducted one, two, or three weeks earlier, cases could have been reduced by 66 percent, 86 percent and 95 percent respectively.
Evidence continues to indicate that the CCP intentionally hid information and lied about what it knew to be true about the virus. Additionally, World Health Organization (WHO) Director-General Tedros Adhanom knowingly and willfully downplayed or outright denied the Chinese government’s malfeasance, and instead chose to cower to the CCP rather than stand up for the international community.
Like all of you, I am deeply angry about the avoidable loss of life, hope, and futures resulting from the CCP’s actions. They and their conspirators must be held accountable.
However, despite the CCP’s duplicity, the United States stands resilient. It is the American men and women who led the way in creating and distributing the multiple available vaccines who we have to thank as we defeat this virus, from President Trump and his Administration to scientists and truck drivers, nurses and factory line workers. The spirit and determination we’ve seen over the last year and a half should make us all proud to be part of this country.
This isn’t a point of Republican pride. It is American pride, Republicans, Democrats, and Independents alike, because when our country is under siege, manmade or otherwise, we stand together. However, the path forward to address this threat and bring the responsible parties to justice is where we have diverged.
President Joe Biden has failed to utilize any of his broad powers to hold China accountable and has willingly given up valuable leverage to force constructive change at the WHO. It is clear the American people can’t count on the Administration or Democrats in Congress to take meaningful action to find the truth and demand justice.
But we have and will continue to fight. Members throughout the conference have been speaking up, getting to work, and making it known House Republicans will always stand up for America.
Whip Steve Scalise with the Republican Members on the Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis, along with Ranking Member of the Oversight and Reform Committee James Comer, led our conference (over 200 members) in demanding Speaker Nancy Pelosi allow a congressional probe into the virus’s origins. Ranking Member Cathy McMorris Rodgers has also led oversight measures for our conference on the origins and funding related to coronavirus research.
Last week, Chairwoman Elise Stefanik and Congressman Rob Wittman introduced legislation to sanction Chinese officials involved in the coverup. Foreign Affairs Ranking Member Mike McCaul has leveraged his committee and the China Task Force to ensure accountability of the CCP and WHO.
Congressman Dan Crenshaw introduced legislation last year to give Americans the opportunity to seek damages from China’s deception. Congresswoman Ann Wagner and Congressman Brian Fitzpatrick have also introduced legislation to do the same.
These are just a few examples. To all of our members, your work is not unnoticed by the rest of America.
I have emphasized the importance of our conference remaining relentlessly focused on the issues and adhering to a simple question: how will we make life better for every American? It starts by first letting them know we have their backs. When a foreign entity is responsible for the deaths, loss of livelihoods, and permanent alterations to the way of life of our citizens, we do something about it.
We can start with these eight pillars that deliver transparency and justice to the American people:
Transparency
1. Declassification of Intelligence: House Republicans will introduce legislation to require declassification of information related to the origins of Covid-19, including in any report that comes from President Biden’s recent request.
2. Prohibit Gain of Function Research in and with China: We must ensure the United States no longer funds any gain of function research conducted in or with China, or any individual with known ties to the CCP.
3. Prohibition on National Institutes of Health (NIH) Funding to Malevolent Foreign Governments: Congress should prohibit NIH funding to grantees or subgrantees from doing research with irresponsible foreign governments or entities who are intent on harming the United States, its allies, or the American people, such as China, Russia, Iran, or North Korea.
4. WHO Overhaul and Counterintelligence Investigation: WHO Director-General Tedros should step down from his post at the WHO; Taiwan should be granted observer status at the WHO; and the Federal Bureau of Investigation, in partnership with the U.S. Intelligence Community, should conduct a counterintelligence investigation into the U.S. medical research establishment to determine the extent to which the governments of China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea have infiltrated critical U.S. organizations.
Justice
5. Investigations and Utilizing Existing Authorities: President Biden and Congress must continue to investigate the origins of Covid-19.
6. Visa Restrictions and Sanctions: Congress should pass a new sanctions regime imposing economic sanctions and visa and admissibility restrictions on those in China, associated with the CCP, WHO, or other international organizations who knowingly and willfully participated in the Covid-19 coverup.
7. Waiving Chinese Sovereign Immunity: The families of those who have died from Covid-19 should be given the option to file suit against the Chinese government for damages incurred as a result of the reckless conduct of the CCP. Several Republican members, including Dan Crenshaw, Ann Wagner, and Brian Fitzpatrick, have introduced legislation allowing such lawsuits to go forward.
8. Relocation of the 24th Olympic Winter Games: Given the CCP’s active coverup of Covid-19 and contribution to the 3.8 million deaths worldwide, China should not be rewarded by allowing Beijing to host the Winter Olympics in 2022.
I intend to introduce this framework this week with many of our colleagues. America needs leadership and Republicans are ready to deliver.
Before we get into anything specific, Republicans talking about accountability regarding COVID is absolutely hysterical given the party's overall attitude towards handling 'rona here at home.
He talks about how people could have been saved if it weren't for China's creation of the virus, but conveniently leaves out how other countries responded at home to keep people healthy... something we didn't do and cost American lives.
He talks about China's malfeasance while leaving out how it was largely Republican lawmakers who saw the earliest reports of the virus and sold off holdings to avoid the financial hit to investments.
WHO is a UN org. Biden doesn't have the authority to force a change in mgmt. If we were so worried about oversight, maybe we should first look into the CDC people that were removed from China.
Pillars 1-4 are each logistically and/or officially not possible.
Pillar 6 is just stupid. Restricting/Sanctioning anyone from the WHO?
Pillar 7 sounds good until you realize that what they're going for is never going to happen.
He has Pillar 8 backwards. China should be punished by being required to hold the next 5 Olympics, or until the remainder of the world has economically recovered.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
The federal judge ruled Saturday that Texas state law protects workers from being fired only if they are forced to commit a crime. /
I'm not lawyer, but this can't be correct. There are no other protections to being fired (in TX)?
Right to work states allow wide leeway. The primary reason for right to work is to give people the right to work somewhere without joining a union.
I don't think Ohio is a right to work state. If you apply to work in a union plant, the employee has to join the union. In right to work states, they don't have to join the union is they so choose.
The judge's ruling does not have to do with Right To Work laws. As you noted, Right To Work laws simply mean that you can work for a unionized company without being forced to join the union.
The reason for the ruling is that Texas, along with many other states are At-Will employment states. At-Will employment states allow both the employer and employee to terminate the relationship for any reason. However, the employer cannot fire you if the the duty they ask you to perform is illegal. There are some exceptions to At-Will employment laws including public policy, implied contract and good faith and fair dealing.
I understand that. Someone brought up right to work. Most of the at will things you mention are commonly grouped with right to work.
Bottom line is in most states, an employer can terminate the relationship nearly as easily as can a employee.
I think you may be talking about hire at will…. When an employee is acknowledged as being hired "at will," courts deny the employee any claim for loss resulting from the dismissal.
Not all states are hire “at will” state.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
I have no problem holding China or anyone that deserves it, accountable.
That includes the actions of Trump and his minions trying to downplay the damn thing.... Republicans in general trying to make it no big thing..
Even the fools that continue to try to flip the script and make China the story.. Yeah, maybe we need to take them to task in some fashion.. but we also need to take those elected officials that are supposed to have OUR best interest at heart to task as well..
Rand Paul needs to be dealt with. Others as well.. Gohmert... Meadows... Jordan... The list goes on forever...
Anybody with a brain knows that when it comes to health, it's always better to error on the side of caution... Key word, BRAIN
Republicans are so tied to getting donations for campaigns that they end up doing the bidding of corrupt companies.
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot
Okay. Have it your way. Ignore the reality. Blame Trump.
I have a friend, a h.s. classmate of mine, that works in China.
She knew full well when she came back here for 2 weeks, that when she returned to China she'd have to be quarantined for just over 2 weeks. In a hotel for quarantinees........at her expense.
Not following all the discussion. I think Trump and the administration made some smart calls along the way - I have no idea if they were made for the right reasons or not.
However - the very few (I can think of only 2 - the travel ban and agreeing to pay for unsuccessful vaccines that were mass produced)..... do not in any way come close to evening the scales of incompetence that was demonstrated month in and month a out and cost thousands of Americans their lives.
I mean the list of incompetent and incorrect things the man said is shockingly long and complete - and Trump owns it all. And words have consequences, I teach that to my pre-teenage kids, yet it appears you want to believe Trump handled everything well and he America didn't lose more lives than needed to? No - I don't blame "everything" on Trump - I blame Trump for his words and actions and inaction.
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The more things change the more they stay the same.
You are entitled to your opinion - not your own facts. A sentence with a question mark at the end of it is absolutely one that seeks clarification and is asking you to clarify. It is very much a question. Adding an 'it appears' only reinforces that.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
Okay. Have it your way. Ignore the reality. Blame Trump.
I have a friend, a h.s. classmate of mine, that works in China.
She knew full well when she came back here for 2 weeks, that when she returned to China she'd have to be quarantined for just over 2 weeks. In a hotel for quarantinees........at her expense.
But, blame it all on Trump. That's all you do.
I don't blame trump for the virus itself..
I do however blame him for his actions with regards to the team of professionals we had in China who's responibility it was to warn us of actions by China that might harm us and the rest of the world.
I do blame him for being so damn dumb as to not realize he'd been warned by Obama that this could and may likely happen...
I do blame him for his response to Covid...
I do blame him for spreading mis-information that is still floating around today. His lies killed Americans..
I blame him for not having a distribution plan in place for the Vaccine when it became available.
I congratulate him for his efforts to get the vaccine Developed and produced... but again, what good is a vaccine if you don't have a plan to distribute.
I blame him for hiding the fact that he and Melania go the vaccine and didn't tell the American people that they did.
I don't care about your friend.. And I won't unless you can prove the comment. besides, knowing what you say she knew, why return to China.. I mean, she must have voted for trump,,, I bet she did it via absentee ballot..... Should it count? I mean, according to Trump, they aren't safe..
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot
I might be leaning too much into Devil's Advocate here, but there's some value in giving credit to Trump where it's due. At the very least, it shows a base level of objectivity that's helpful in these parts (IMO).
The travel ban was something. His push for vaccines was DEFINITELY something. It showed action in response to COVID. How you rationalize that with his other COVID responses (or lack) is an entirely different matter... but I guess what I'm saying is that you can't truthfully say he did nothing.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
I've never tried to say that. He did however try to act like a tough guy. And I use the word "act" because I mean, let's face it, he's called Captain Bone Spurs for a reason.
There wasn't actually a travel ban from China. He had to allow all of our citizens to come home first. He also allowed several thousands of Chinese into America after calling it a "ban". It wasn't a ban at all. It was travel restrictions from china. Words have meaning. But it makes you sound so much tougher when you don't explain that part. Let's look at what he claimed was a ban.
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AP FACT CHECK: Trump and the virus-era China ban that isn’t
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump’s “ban” on travel from China is his go-to point when defending his response to the coronavirus pandemic. The problem with his core argument starts with the fact that he did not ban travel from China. He imposed porous restrictions.
Over the past week, Trump cited his China action repeatedly and as part of a scattered indictment of Democratic presidential rival Joe Biden.
Trump thoroughly misrepresented Biden’s position on immigration and more, while an economic adviser with no public health credentials tried to discredit Dr. Anthony Fauci, the country’s top infectious disease expert, with a scientific argument.
It was a difficult week for discerning the reality of things.
In review:
THE ‘BAN’
TRUMP: “We would’ve had thousands of people additionally die if we let people come in from heavily infected China. But we stopped it. We did a travel ban in January. ... By closing up, we saved millions, potentially millions of lives.” — Rose Garden remarks Tuesday.
TRUMP: He didn’t ban travel from China. He restricted it. Dozens of countries took similar steps to control travel from hot spots before or around the same time the U.S. did.
The U.S. restrictions that took effect Feb. 2 continued to allow travel to the U.S. from China’s Hong Kong and Macao territories over the past five months. The Associated Press reported that more than 8,000 Chinese and foreign nationals based in those territories entered the U.S. in the first three months after the travel restrictions were imposed.
Additionally, more than 27,000 Americans returned from mainland China in the first month after the restrictions took effect. U.S. officials lost track of more than 1,600 of them who were supposed to be monitored for virus exposure.
Few doubt that the heavy death toll from COVID-19 would be even heavier if world travel had not been constricted globally. But Trump has no scientific basis to claim that his action alone saved “millions” or even “hundreds of thousands” of lives, as he has put it.
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THE ‘DANCE’
TRUMP, on what happened after he restricted travel from China: “Nancy Pelosi was dancing on the streets of Chinatown in San Francisco a month later, and even later than that, and others, too.” — Rose Garden.
THE FACTS: No she wasn’t. This is Trump’s frequent and fanciful account of the House speaker’s visit to San Francisco’s Chinatown on Feb. 24. That day, she visited shops and strolled the streets to counter the hostility some people in the district were encountering over a virus that emanated from China.
On that day, Pelosi said the public should be vigilant about the virus but the city took precautions and “we should come to Chinatown.” Local TV news tracked her visit;. She wasn’t seen dancing and did not call for a “street fair,” as Trump at times has put it. Community spread of the coronavirus had not yet been reported.
As FactCheck.org pointed out, the same day Pelosi went to Chinatown, Trump tweeted: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health (Organization) have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!” The CDC is the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Two days later, Trump asserted that only 15 people in the U.S. were infected and that number would go down “close to zero.” Instead the numbers exploded. More than 3.6 million Americans have had COVID-19.
Trump has accused Pelosi of being “responsible for many deaths” because of the Chinatown visit. He has denied responsibility for any of the deaths sweeping the country as he has persistently minimized the threat, pushed for reopening and refused to take mask-wearing seriously.
BIDEN ON THE ‘BAN’
TRUMP: “He opposed my very strict travel ban on Chinese nationals to stop the spread of the China virus. He was totally against it. ‘Xenophobic,’ he called me. ‘Xenophobic.’ A month later, he admitted I was right.” — Rose Garden.
THE FACTS: No, Biden did not come out against the travel restrictions on China. He said little about them at the time. In April, his campaign said he supported travel restrictions if “guided by medical experts.”
Biden did say Trump has a record of xenophobia, a comment made during an Iowa campaign event when the restrictions were announced. Biden said Trump was “fear-mongering” against foreigners and the Democrat took issue with Trump’s references to the “China virus” as an example. He did not address the travel steps.
Trump has claimed that Biden realized he was right after all about restricting travel from China and wrote him a “letter of apology.” This didn’t happen, either.
THE TRADE ADVISER
PETER NAVARRO, White House trade adviser: “When Fauci was telling the White House Coronavirus Task Force that there was only anecdotal evidence in support of hydroxychloroquine to fight the virus, I confronted him with scientific studies providing evidence of safety and efficacy. A recent Detroit hospital study showed a 50% reduction in the mortality rate when the medicine is used in early treatment.” — op-ed published Wednesday in USA Today.
THE FACTS: Navarro cherry-picks a study widely criticized as flawed and ignores multiple studies finding hydroxychloroquine doesn’t help.
Numerous rigorous tests of hydroxychloroquine, including a large one from Britain and one led by the National Institutes of Health, concluded that the anti-malaria drug was ineffective for treating hospitalized coronavirus patients. Fauci leads the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases at NIH.
The Food and Drug Administration also has warned the drug should only be used for the coronavirus in hospitals and research settings because of the risk of serious heart rhythm problems and other safety issues.
The Henry Ford Health System study that Navarro refers to was an observational look back at how various patients fared. It was not a rigorous test where similar patients are randomly assigned to get the drug or not and where each group is compared later on how they did.
In the study, some people with heart or certain other conditions were not given the drugs, which can cause heart rhythm problems, so those patients were fundamentally different from the group they were compared with. Researchers said they adjusted statistically for some differences, but the many variables make it tough to reach firm conclusions.
Some patients also received other treatments such as steroids and the antiviral drug remdesivir, further clouding any ability to tell whether hydroxychloroquine helped.
Trump repeatedly has pushed the drug and claimed he took it himself to try to prevent COVID-19 infection or illness.
The White House said Navarro was not authorized to challenge Fauci with the op-ed and should not have done it. But his points largely reflect ones Trump and others in the White House have made themselves.
There's a lot more to the article but this is most of what pertains to the topic at hand.
As usual, even when doing something positive, it wasn't as advertised, many lies were mixed in and it was used as a political football more than anything else by trump.
And as I stated, they are only willing to focus on a couple of things he did right and ignore the massive amounts of gaffs and mistakes he made during the pandemic. It is what it is.
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Not saying you did. My response was a general comment (so I probably should've put that at the top...).
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
Houston hospital system fires workers for refusing COVID-19 vaccine
DALLAS — More than 150 employees at a Houston hospital system who refused to get the COVID-19 vaccine have been fired or resigned after a judge dismissed an employee lawsuit over the vaccine requirement.
A spokesperson for Houston Methodist hospital system said 153 employees either resigned in the two-week suspension period or were terminated on Tuesday.
The case over how far health care institutions can go to protect patients and others against the coronavirus has been closely watched. It’s believed to be the first of its kind in the U.S. But it won’t be the end of the debate.
Earlier this month, a federal judge threw out the lawsuit filed by 117 employees over the requirement. The hospital system’s decision in April to require the vaccine for workers made it the first major U.S. health care system to do so.
The Houston Methodist employees who filed the lawsuit likened their situation to medical experiments performed on unwilling victims in Nazi concentration camps during World War II. U.S. District Judge Lynn Hughes called that comparison “reprehensible” and said claims made in the lawsuit that the vaccines are experimental and dangerous are false.
Hughes, who dismissed the lawsuit on June 12, said that if the employees didn’t like the requirement, they could go work elsewhere.
Those who filed the lawsuit have already appealed the judge’s dismissal to the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.
The hospital system had required employees to complete their immunization by June 7. The next day, 178 employees were suspended for two weeks without pay for not complying.
Jennifer Bridges, a registered nurse who is the lead plaintiff in the lawsuit against Houston Methodist, said her director called her Tuesday to ask if she’d gotten the vaccine yet or made any effort to do so. She said that when she replied “absolutely not,” she was told that she was terminated.
“We all knew we were getting fired today,” said Bridges, 39. “We knew unless we took that shot to come back, we were getting fired today. There was no ifs, ands or buts.”
She had worked for 6½ years at the medical-surgical in-patient unit at Houston Methodist’s hospital in the suburb of Baytown.
Bridges said Tuesday was also her first day at her new job at a company that sends nurses into people’s homes.
“I’m hoping if we win this at a federal level then they’re going to create laws to protect employees from having to go through this anywhere else in the country,” said Bridges, who said she does not have confidence in the vaccine’s safety.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has said that while a small number of health problems have been reported, COVID-19 vaccines are safe and highly effective.
Other hospital systems around the country, including in Washington, D.C., Indiana, Maryland, Pennsylvania and most recently New York, have followed Houston Methodist and have also gotten pushback.
Legal experts say such vaccine requirements, particularly in a public health crisis, will probably continue be upheld in court as long as employers provide reasonable exemptions, including for medical conditions or religious objections.
Harris Methodist has said some employees got medical or religious exemptions, and some were deferred for pregnancy or other reasons.
But Houston Methodist’s president and CEO, Marc Boom, has said nearly 25,000 of the system’s more than 26,000 workers have been fully vaccinated against COVID-19.
“You did the right thing. You protected our patients, your colleagues, your families and our community. The science proves that the vaccines are not only safe but necessary if we are going to turn the corner against COVID-19,” Boom said in a statement to employees.
I saw this today, but apparently it's been on the CDC's radar for a little while.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
It'll be interesting to see what the link is between this side effect and the vaccine. Same with the JnJ blood clots. If it's truly random, then it's no big deal. If a contraindication was missed due to lack of data, that would be truly heartbreaking for the people affected (especially where there was a death, like with the blood clots).
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
... then try to look it up? I'm not sure how that's relevant. Are you suggesting that these cases are merely coincidental (not linked to the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines)?
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
I'm not sure. I have no idea until or unless I have numbers to compare it to. I'm sure those numbers are out there somewhere but as it pertains only to children I haven't been able to find it. I feel that if I knew that number it would at least clear up how many more cases this would be compared to what's considered normal and help put things in a better perspective.
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I still haven't found the actual numbers but I did see this from the FDA......
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Naturally occurring heart inflammation is rare, but it does occur from time to time in teens and young adults. The rate seen after these vaccines is slightly higher than would be expected for these ages, prompting concern.
So, from my own article (the webMD one... I'm not a fan of webmd either, but it was the most recent one I could quickly find on the topic), it seems that the link is not as definitive as I thought. Headlines say CDC found a link, which is why I was questioning your question, but in the article it characterized the vaccine --> inflammation cases as a POTENTIAL link. So that was lazy reading on my part (my bad).
The article did say this. (edit: you responded with a similar quote) "More than 20 million adolescents and young adults have been vaccinated in the U.S.. Although rare, the 300 cases are higher than expected for the age group."
While it's a vague answer to your question, I guess it's an answer nonetheless.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
j/c Any and all conditions that may arise ass a result of receiving the vaccine should be monitored and investigated and reported so that awareness is raised.
However - people also need to keep perspective. Whether it was the previous scare or this recent heart inflammation ... numbers matter. 300 out of 20 million. 3 out of 200,000. 1 out of 66,667. It is a very small %.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
For sure. Per my mea culpa in my previous post, there's only a potential link between these inflammation cases and the mRNA vaccines, but it's been elevated on the CDC's radar. 30 out of a million still falls within the "probably more safe than not" that goes with emergency use authorization. The benefit to the larger population far outweighs the risk, but the individual still needs to weigh the risk for themselves, and what those risks mean to them.
add: as I'm writing this, I just read that the CDC has added a warning for the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines for this situation. I believe this goes against the initial assumption that the CDC would not change anything in their approach to the vaccines in light of these cases.
Seems as though they're more confident there's a link, but still not 100% sure.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
Not only that - but it's an unusual way to try to get the truth exposed. . . instead of going to the FBI - the CDC - to some form of law enforcement or intelligence agency and providing substance and seeking protection .... She goes onto a show known for fiction and lies. She goes on a show where the Faux News legal team used as a defense in a court of law "Fox is entertainment, no-one is expected to believe any "fact" as being true".
Very odd. Or very convenient depending on your perspective and agenda.
Last edited by mgh888; 07/01/2108:26 AM.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
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