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You can't get better by hanging on to average players.. Got to improve when and where and how we can.

Are you confusing him with Terrance Mitchell?

The Browns won in 2020 because of their offense. Their defense was, politely, mediocre. The players no longer here contributed to that mediocrity.

I'm not going to quibble with anything the FO has done - I like/liked Richardson and I like/liked Mitchel.... both were rare "standouts" who held their own on a bad D. I wouldn't want Mitchel starting as CB1 or CB2 - but he was a valuable part of the team and he was available, which was another asset last year.

Looking forward to seeing if the new parts and pieces can mesh together quickly and become the D we imagine. Roll on September!

Nope. Eric Murray was the safety/fill-in corner we got from the Chiefs in exchange for Ogbah. Being that he got here mid-season, he had to work his way into the defense and out onto the field, but when he did he filled in admirably. I thought that type of versatility would've helped a ton last year.

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Steelers release 6 time Pro Bowl G David DeCastro.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/06/24/steelers-release-david-decastro/

Steelers starting OL right now

LT- Chuks Okorafor
LG - Kevin Dotson
C - Kendrick Green
RG - B.J. Finney
RT - Zach Banner

Worst o-line I think I've ever seen. That's expansion-team level trash.

Steelers reportedly had a visit from 5 time Pro Bowl G Trai Turner, and are in talks with him.



He also recently visited the Bengals, per reports.

Run stopping DTs are usually pretty bulky, not svelte. I believe I read that he'll rotate out on pass downs.

The Steelers are dismantling a good offensive line to give Ben enough money for one more year. A team that historically has been great at keeping top end talent and replacing expensive players with well groomed backups, might have just met the end of the line of their consistency.

I don't see Ben making it through a full season. What a bummer LOL

I bet if you took the majority on these huge DT and showed them without shoulder pads, most would look like this.

One Steelers podcast I listened to from less than a week ago commented if they had to play a game right now that J.T. Hausenhour (spelling) would be the starting center.

As far as Trai?
Can we imagine they'd release DeCastro who I think would be their best projected, if they weren't at least close to signing someone to replace Him on that OL,
or at least if there weren't some other unknown circumstances.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/steel...tro-per-report/

The Steelers have Signed Trai Turner former pro bowl guard San Diego

1 hour ago.

Did DeCastro's performance take a dip in the last few years or is this purely for cost-cutting?

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Najee Harris must be pretty excited right about now.

Big Ben to retire

Steelers are in cap hell and you'd think Decastro had some trade value. He's only 31 and made the pro bowl again last year. Unless there's more to that ankle injury, this was a cost cutting move.

I saw that he might retire.

2021 Steelers 7-10

I would be full of glee if that happened. I live in the heart of Steeler country, and for years have been ridiculed and laughed at.

The Steelers having a losing season would make me almost as happy as the Browns making the playoffs. Many of my steeler friends are already pointing the finger at Tomlin and many are saying they won't even watch this year. I find it hilarious

Bro- I hate your town. Situated in Ohio, but more than 2/3 the town roots for pss & tar, instead of a good orange-based team. I know it's mostly proximity that drives a lot of it, but it is really hard to take.

I used to mess with my Pops In-Law all the time. I once told him: you kike that team so much, you should move to their state- without using a bridge."



That's the other half of my contempt for them. Fair-weather fans to the last one. They could never be the kind of fans we Dawgs have been. Dude- watch how many of them will be strutting around Jefferson Country wearing brand- new sparkly Browns gear this fall. You should shame them at every opportunity!

So what does that have to do with the Browns?



Just kidding man. In a playful mood this morning.

Seeing Ben cry made the season and the year all the sweeter.

But I will say this and you all need to remember this as well.

When Modell moved the Browns Steeler Fans stood by our side and demanded we be given our team back. For that I will always respect them as fans, that is what class looks like.

Still this is sport and after being drummed by Pitt for what seems like forever I look forward to us giving them some of their own medicine as it should be.

A big big part of that is the joy I felt seeing Ben cry. Priceless

You got that right. Many of these "die hard" fans claim they didn't even watch the playoff game, it is hilarious. They do the same with the Pirates.

My favorite was when they were all claiming we beat their back ups, when our whole defensive backfield was back ups. Then when we beat them with no coach, they used their old go to. Well we won 6 super bowls. When I mention all the Browns championships, it's always" yeah 60 years ago". They usually shut up when I mention that the 70s was 50 years ago.

I want a shirt with Ben crying on the bench. I would where it everyday LOL

70's and early 80's Pirates fans were everywhere. Now your lucky to see one fan a year wearing pirates gear.

I know people who have removed Pirate decals from their cars. They do the same with the Penguins. My close buddy claims to be a die hard Pens fan, then the moment they are out of contention, he never watches another game.

If the Steelers had the same decade the Browns just went thru, their stadium would be empty. I would put money on it.

You want an enemy? I'm old enough to remember the Colts leaving Baltimore in Mayflower vans. I remember their fans saying how terrible it was that another city had stolen their team. Then they supported Art Modell bringing the Browns to Baltimore and stealing our team.

I remember that too, it's why I hate Baltimore. Damn hypocrites.

When I was a kid, my teams were the Browns and the Colts. I loved Johnny U. It was really weird when they left Baltimore in the middle of the night. I never liked them again. When the Browns moved to Baltimore I was crushed. I tried to be a Ravens fan, just because it was my team in another city. That lasted about a week. The thought of them leaving the best fans in the NFL was puzzling.

I never hated the Ravens, until Ray Lewis. After that I detested everything about them. The Colts got what they deserved, years of mediocrity, until Peyton.

The Steelers though, make me wretch. Their fans are sickening, and their announcers, including Myron Cope, disgusted me.

I also remember that when the Browns left, generally, cleveland people didn't want another cities team. they wanted an expansion team.

I also remember how the NFL Ripped us off compared to Jacksonville and Carolina.

I blame the city of Cleveland for our move. They could have prevented that but decided to play poker and call with a weak hand.

I disagree. Modell maneuvered and manipulated the Baltimore situation to his own benefit. He needed a huge cash windfall in order to overcome his own ineptitude and mismanagement.

In the expansion vote in 1993, Modell led the charge against allowing expansion in Baltimore, despite them promising a new stadium. Lerner was the prospective owner for a Baltimore team, but his close friend Art Modell led the charge against him, and Baltimore, instead supporting the smallest city in the NFL, and an ownership group who had quit the race only shortly before the vote. Modell cited things such as lack of support for the Colts, (a team run by completely inept ownership at that time) among other factors.

Then Modell, about 2 1/2 years later, decided that Baltimore was a good city for an NFL team after all ..... his team.

Let's not rewrite history in order to absolve Modell of his actions.