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I didn't say it was easy, but holy hell....Idiots in Nigeria can steal the identities of US citizens, yet federal investigators can't crack into a personal laptop for information vital to cracking a crime against the USA?

iphone face id hacked in 120 seconds.

I'd say they probably can. If I were a betting man (hey, wait, I am!), I would bet that the recent crybaby type political mumbo-jumbo about it being sensitive personal information (biometrics in general) and the reports about racial discrimination using face recogniton, etc, etc, has prompted federal agencies to demand a court order for anything "biometrics".

I could be wrong, I was wrong a few times in the 90's.

I bet this has been patched since it was discovered in August of 2019. And I know there have been several methods to attempt the hack but as far as I know there is no sure fire hack.

Again, smart coders on both sides of that hacking problem. And the Nigerians tend to prey on the stupid and uninformed. About 90% of hacks are possible because people give the hacker what they need. Open the wrong email, joining the wrong website, answering the wrong phone call, and being tricked into providing info or access. Nigerians (only the princes and central bank heir tracking department ) use these deceptive tactics to get people to give them the info they need or to have them send money in a way they can not reverse.

I wouldn't doubt the bit about the court order/warrant. I honestly think a brief hacking class should be provided by big tech for people using internet connected devices to learn the basics of how hacking works. Most of the time it's more of a con than expert coding. If you or anyone wants to know a little more about hacking basics, youtube has a bunch of cyber security tutorials.

"Chloe... what's my time frame?"
"About 10 seconds, Jack..."
"Dammit! get me 20 more, Chloe. I don't care where you steal'em!"
Right, Jack!"

He is not only clever but he is right......

j/c:

It's nice to see cops are back in the good graces of the pubic from one year ago.

ACAB!!

You assume they aren't the ones responsible. I say that for the reasons you mention. I don't think the FBI, NSA, CIA and several others we know about are totally incompetent in that realm. J Edgar Hoover spied on nearly every President he served under, so it isn't totally off the wall to think something like this couldn't happen. From my perspective, I'd say the chances are at least pretty good.

To this day many people think a government agency had something to do with JFK's murder. Many people are at least skeptical that the Warren Commission got to the bottom of things.

That was nearly 60 years ago. Hard to believe, at least for me, it doesn't seem that long ago but in reality, a lifetime ago.

j/c

Often times these cases are being handled by local and state courts, not the DOJ. I'm sure the resources vary greatly between the two.

It was the DOJ that asked for the warrant.

j/c


Kevin McCarthy selects committee to investigate rise of crime rate in Gotham:

That's friggin' hilarious!

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D., Calif.) rejected the potential appointments of Representatives Jim Jordan (R., Ohio) and Jim Banks (R., Ind.) to a select committee on the January 6 Capitol riot, in a statement on Wednesday...

It's truly rare that a court seats someone on a jury that is likely to be called as a witness.. Why is that so hard for you to figure out?

No foxes allowed in the hen house.

I'd actually rather have that kangaroo on the panel than anyone from the Freedom Caucus.

I do hope that Kinzinger joins it.

perfect

j/c

Select Committee, Day One:
New video footage of 1/6 released.
Powerful, compelling opening statements from 4 officers on the scene.

Good luck spinning this as a peaceful "3-hour tour."



In 2015, Hillary was right, after all.
Deplorables.

Everytime I see Jan 6th footage. I get sick to my stomach.

Traitors to this country. Led by traitor numero uno.

A fair and just election proven in court by over 70 court challenges.

And they try to overthrow the govt. because it did not go their way.

Every military General has turned on trump and his actions.

McMaster, Mantis, Kelly, Milley all saw what the trump presidency was about.

trump and his interests at the expense of anything else including the constitution and the democratic process.

The world knows, and history will know, that the GOP created an uncontrollable Frankenstein monster that on January 6th attempted a coup. Now we'll all see the GOP do everything possible to deflect attention from this insurrection attempt and direct it toward any squirrel that passes by, but it has been, and after today's testimony, is now even more obvious.

Today the "BLUE" presented testimony and acknowledged video evidence, within their legal and professional jurisdiction to do so, about the terrorists and the statements they heard from those terrorists regarding who directed those terrorists. And they have asked congress to find those who "hired the hit-man" to be brought to justice.

Now the conservative media, who WEPT and SOBBED about kneeling athletes, will attack the "BLUE" with every irrelevant piece of nonsense they can think of.

And my county will still be full of new "TRUMP" signs.

Trumpism is an epidemic infecting the weak minded.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/capitol-police-officer-slammed-fist-160700114.html

Very direct, powerful testimony.

Fish, Super, et al… please go ahead and watch Fanone’s testimony and relay your response.

Don't hold your breath .... Maybe in a few days when the American Thinker or Breitbart has come up with some spurious deflection they will post an article. Peen might comment but it will be some sort of plausible deniability/deflection or a whatabout.

Damning testimony today. Maybe this will actually lead to those responsible at minimum being publicly embarrassed. I hope heads roll and long sentences follow personally.

Truth.

Tomorrow's headline on Fox:

Left assaults capitol press conference SAME AS JANUARY 6th! Where's the outrage?

no doubt they will both cry victim.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57989578

BBC article on the hearings.

I had some time today to listen to the police officers testify at the Jan 6 commission.

What I saw, (not because it's what I wanted to see, but just what was there) was a group of officers that are basically pissed off.

They put their life on the line to protect both Democrats, Republicans and independents.. But now, the Republicans are just Poo Pooing the this as "just another day of tourists" at the capital

They are lying. Simply put, they are lying.

Let's not forget the lies about Pelosi being responsible for the riot or at least not having the Capital Police poised to handle the riot..

Check the facts, that isn't her job... But either way, it's a distraction. it's time that some of these republicans pay a hefty price for the lies.... IT's time

Washington Examiner

The Jan. 6 commission hearings began with a falsehood


by Becket Adams



July 27, 2021




The House hearing this week on the Jan. 6 Capitol riot got off to an inauspicious start.

“We are going to be guided solely by the facts,” said Democratic Rep. Bennie Thompson of Mississippi in his opening remarks. “The facts of what happened on Jan. 6, in the run-up to that tragic day, and what has taken place since … There’s no place for politics or partisanship in this investigation. Our only charge is to follow the facts where they lead us.”

He then said, “We know that seven people lost their lives, that more than 140 police officers suffered injuries.”

Well, so much for the facts.

It’s true that an estimated 140 police officers were injured defending the Capitol building. However, of the deaths commonly associated with the riot, only one — the police shooting death of 35-year-old U.S. Air Force veteran and Trump supporter Ashli Babbitt — was directly caused by the riot. No other deaths occurred during the attack. No one succumbed later to injuries sustained during the assault, either.

For example, Trump supporters Benjamin Phillips and Kevin Greeson died of natural causes, a medical examiner ruled in April. Trump supporter Rosanne Boyland, whom initial reports claimed was crushed to death by the pro-Trump mob, died of a drug overdose.

Then, there’s Capitol Hill Police Officer Brian Sicknick, whose death was originally attributed to “injuries suffered during the riot.” Except that proved to be untrue. He suffered two strokes after the protest and died of natural causes, according to Francisco Diaz, the chief medical examiner in Washington, D.C. There is no evidence Sicknick suffered internal or external injuries from the incident, Diaz said.

Even beyond this, one might wonder how Thompson gets to seven deaths. He is likely including the two police officers who committed suicide after the attack.

So to be perfectly factual, just one person, a Trump supporter killed by police, died during or as a direct result of the assault.

Perhaps those two suicides ought to be included in the total figure of those killed by the riot. The families of those officers maintain the attack on the Capitol was the thing that pushed the men over the edge. But it is dubious to add Phillips, Greeson, Boyland, and Sicknick to the overall total.

Unfortunately, Chairman Thompson is not alone in playing around with the numbers. As recently as this month, NPR and CBS News both alleged the riot “left five people dead,” including Sicknick, whose death, again, was ruled unrelated to the events of Jan. 6.

The Los Angeles Times this month reported broadly “five people died either in the melee or in the hours after.” Roll Call and The Hill this month reported “five people died in connection with Jan. 6” and “five people died in events related to the Jan. 6 insurrection,” respectively.

Reuters this week took a slightly different tack, reporting instead, “Four people died on the day of the violence … A Capitol police officer who had been attacked by protesters died the following day.”

Though these reports are not technically wrong, it’s clear media outlets are being cute with the facts, presenting deaths unrelated to the violence of Jan. 6 as if they were a direct result of what happened at the Capitol building.

The Jan. 6 riot was an appalling event. There is no point, or honor, in denying that. It doesn’t require embellishment from politicians or the media.


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/the-jan-6-commission-hearings-began-with-a-lie

Geraldo tells Hannity he’s 'gaslighting, changing the subject' on Jan. 6 insurrection
Wed, July 28, 2021, 2:56 AM


Geraldo Rivera appeared on Hannity Tuesday to speak about the House Select Committee on the January 6 insurrection at the Capitol and its first day of hearings, but instead, immediately turned his attention to Sean Hannity’s coverage of the insurrection. While Hannity has condemned the events of the 6th, he’s also repeatedly attempted to shift blame away from former President Trump, draw a false equivalency between the insurrection and the 2020 riots, and denigrated the formation of the committee.

“I think you’ve been — with all due respect and I love you — gaslighting, changing the subject,” Rivera said. “The subject is January 6th, and what happened to the United States Capitol and why it happened. Those two things. The fact that the Capitol was targeted, and that the prime instigator, the one who unleashed the mob, was the President of the United States.



https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/geraldo-tells-hannity-gaslighting-changing-065619065.html

So...what are your thoughts on the testimony?

You mean what are Tucker’s thoughts on the testimony? Fish isn’t a free thinker.

I'm not a huge fan of Don Lemon overall, but I will say I watched the segment where he had Fanone on yesterday, and I thought it was a very good discussion.

Fanone played a voicemail on it that he received during his testimony. I can't repost the link here because it is horribly offensive. I encourage people to watch that video though.

I don't think there is any getting away from how ugly a certain element, as reflected in a constituency of the HoR, has become.

The United States has been tested in many ways. The Civil War tore this country apart.

We have had the assassinations of presidents.
Two World Wars.
Korea, Vietnam, Iraq.

We were attacked on 911 and Pearl Harbour.

However, the actions of Jan 6th was a spear to the heart of what this country stands for. Free and open elections and the transfer of power. No president before has done what trump did. And the actions of those who attacked the capitol violated what this country stands for.

We deserve to know everything that happened that day. Everything.

And those who were involved should be prosecuted to fullest extent of the law.

We can Not be a country that "sometimes" stands for law and order. We are either a democratic republic that stands for law and order or we are not.

If we can hang a spy for selling military secrets. If during a war and person joins the enemy and is tried for treason.

Why should those responsible for and those who participated in an attempt to overthrow an election not be held accountable?

An extremely poor attempt at a 'gotcha' (like accurately stating that 7 people lost their lives) is as good of an endorsement of these proceedings as there will be.

Seriously, that's the best you got?

Is there any question trump is responsible? We all saw what happened. I dont need an investigation for that. Will he be held accountable? and I dont mean at the pols or in public opinion. I mean criminally responsible.

Sorry pal, but as long as they believe in the “big lie” purposely produced by trump and now carried on by our republican lawmakers, It’s all fools gold until the fools learn something. You’ll never hear a “big lie” believer even mention how a police officer died protecting our capitol and democracy at this so called peaceful protest Jan 6. You’ll never hear them mention how trump himself had his storm troopers violently clear out an actual peaceful protest at the White House to have his unsanctioned photo op in front of a Catholic Church with his beloved borrowed bible. Nope it’s Antifa as the bad guy even though they can’t identify a leader. Or “BLM protests have hurt America more”. So ignorant as to see they are literally fighting for their lives. Really is a loss cause if they believe that crap. Just saying.

As with everything we hear from those tying to take attention away from what happened that day and what led up to it, it's a diversionary tactic. It's the.....

"We won't talk about what actually happened that day. Instead we'll look for things people say to pick apart. It gives us a way to divert attention away from the facts we tried to overturn an election and the peaceful transfer of power. That it was extremely violent. That we claim blue live matter while we injured 140 police officers and seriously attacked and injured many. While we hurled racial slurs. You don't think we're actually going to address that in any straight forward manner do you? "

As long as they can find something, anything the other side says to pick apart it's less time they have to talk about the actual subject at hand. As you can see in this thread they either say nothing or try to plant a diversion.