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I really don't think it's you who has an identity crisis. But maybe. I mean I don't really know you on a personal level.

I think the crisis is on the part of others who try to place everyone in some nice, neat little package and you just don't fit into one of their packages. So somehow they have to try and fit a square peg into a round hole.


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Thanks. It's hard to tell from my post, but I was just kidding around and having fun with the notion.


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Me too, kind of.


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U want to compare Trump being a jack arse, making fun of a disabled dude with what’s going on at the southern border or with American’s basically being held hostage by the Taliban using our weapons to do it, mother’s handing their babies over barbed wire and more than likely never seeing them again or people so desperate to get out there hanging onto the wings of airplanes and falling to there deaths and teenagers hiding in the wheel wells ensuring death …. If so, you got me, you win rolleyes

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You forgot when Trump abandoned the Kurds, and then they started getting attacked by the Turkish military. Which also led to a bunch of ISIS captives escaping prison and now actively on the loose in terrorist organizations.

You literally have an example of trump botching crap just has hard as Biden by YOUR own standard, yet somehow you forgot that event.

Seriously, stop it.


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You think you know a solution to Afghanistan?

How long has the US been there?

That somehow the plug is pulled and all comes out clean.

Sensational sad stories are a part of what has taken place there for decades.

Maybe some research on your part about the history of conflict there would knock your blinders off.

You know the term "taking one for the team?"

Easy to criticise from 10k feet.

The border?

Like that has not been going on for what 40 years.

What did the Wall do?

When employers stop hiring illegal imigrants. Then they won't come here. The reality is the will and way to fix it has never been there.

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btw.

You post Biden video with your agenda.

Like trump doesn't have a highlight reel a mile long.

Along with his treason on Jan. 6th.

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It's sad - two people who could care less about 10,000's of Americans who died from Covid because of Trump's mishandling and mixed messaging about Covid ... crying fake tears and pretending to care about Afghans suffering during this exit from Afghanistan.

I 100% think Biden made mistakes and the exit could have been handled differently. I absolutely think the fake emotional outcry by the Cult of Trump faithful is phoney and simply political or they simply get brainwashed by whatever media they get their news from. . . . either way they are lost and wouldn't see the truth or balanced perspective if it punched them in the face.


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This was posted in the other thread. Also speaks to the silence from the Trump cronies when Trump - against military advice - overnight deserted allies in Nth Syria ... and the genocide that followed. . . . Zip from the cronies then = hypocrisy now.

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Along with his treason on Jan. 6th.



You must've been left out of the loop...

FBI finds no evidence that Trump and his allies were directly involved with organizing the violence of the Capitol riot: report

https://news.yahoo.com/fbi-finds-no-evidence-trump-153636457.html

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This was posted in the other thread



Olivia Troye Pfff...

‘Profiles in cowardice’: WH attacks ‘fired’ pandemic aide Olivia Troye

https://nypost.com/2020/09/22/white-house-attacks-fired-pandemic-aide-olivia-troye/

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Please.

His actions and speech was all that is needed.

He attempted to overthrow an election.

An election that withstood every challenge in the courts.

How do you define traitor?

Start with atttempting to overthrow a valid election.

Jan. 6th. was one of the darkest days in American history.

And it was entirely orchestrated by trump.

Without trump it never would have happened.

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And it's neither a report from the FBI nor a statement from the FBI. He's just trying to peddle it that way.


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It's what they've always done. Trump leaves weapons to fall in the hands of our enemies and deserts those who were allies in our fight against ISIS in Syria, equals Trump good.

Biden does it, Biden bad. It's what they've always done. When Trump is their Messiah, what else did you expect? They've traded Reagan for Trump in the "Republican Jesus" department.

At least we are honest enough to admit Biden screwed up. They've never had the balls to do that with Trump.


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Biden is far from perfect.

The US record in nation building. Not good. How many wars have we stuck our face into only to come out with a bloody nose?

Our problems are right in the streets here.

We can not police the world.

Let's stop this pandemic.
Let's build an economy that all can be a part of not just the rich.

Let's rethink public education.

Let's take care of the evironment and resources that we share.

trump's legacy is criminal deceit, obstruction of justice, building hatred, and now vengence.

I could care less about republican or democrat. Do the right thing.

It is why politics in general turns my stomach.

Power, greed, corruption, lies and hypocrisy.

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It's sad but let me ask you, do you think both parties are actually working hard to address those issues you listed?

And since we agree that Biden is far from perfect and that he has made mistakes, now all you have to do is get the opposing party to do the same.

So once we can get both parties to see and agree that your list is important and do their best to address them, we won't have to be concerned about political parties. Once we can get both parties to admit that their politicians are flawed and made made huge mistakes, we won't have to be concerned about political parties.

What do your propose we do until then?


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Very frustrating.

I wish there was an answer.

If there is an answer then it lies in compromise.

Pure right or left is not the answer.

trump poisoned what there is. Instead of having policy that meets somewhere in the middle. He created a culture war. He wanted division. And he got it. He gave a platform to those filled with hate toward others.

There is no America in the world of trump. It is only those "who worship me" and those "who are my enemies."

Count me as enemy numbero uno.

All we can hope to do is to try to elect those that are the closest to serving the people not the party.

People like MT Green. Need to be shunned.

I wish there was a solution. But I don't think it can be reality. Politicians are prostitutes of the worst kind.

They sell out for power and personal greed.

Politics and corruption have been a marriage since the first government. Those who enter with good intent soon become absorbed.

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I think it goes back further than that. I guess if you mean a president who outwardly berated the other side Trump certainly set the bar. But then he did that to anyone who disagreed with him or challenged him even from his own party. Sounding like a child on the playground certainly was his calling card. An equal opportunity offender if you will.

But I would like to remind you what McConnell said right after Obama was elected. "The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president,". That seems like an odd thing to have at the top of your priority list as an elected official.

I'm not trying to say the democrats are any better in this regard but I will say that Republicans are more outwardly open about it. And I'm simply using it as an example that Trump didn't start the problem. He merely exacerbated it.


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I agree with you 100%.

The Bush/Romney type republicans have gotten plowed under.

McConnell, Graham, Cruz, DeSantis the worst of the worst.
Cuomo right there with them. Jordan damn.

So many others.

I never watch the "news." I will only read it.

Watching politicians speak makes me ill.

The governor of Alaska is a lying corrupt low life. He would have sold out the entire commercial salmon fishery of Bristol Bay to the a gold strip mining company.
Even geek tucker was against that.

Politics yuck

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I certainly agree with you. I'm certainly not a big fan of politicians as a whole. And the most extreme on each side I carry the most disdain for.


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JoKe seems to have another great plan in place …. Y’All should be real proud of yourselves … AWESOME JOB …

Dude’s an American citizen and got within 10 feet of one of the 3 gates that were open yesterday (last I heard today all the gates are shut) … he made eye contact and shouted at a marine “I’m an American with a passport … he had his young child and his wife with him … the marine screamed GET BACK and then fired into the air and used a flash bang … dude gave up and went home after trying to get into the British gate that apparently the Taliban is actually working with but the Brits for some reason won’t let any Americans in …

Dude said the marines were constantly firing and using flash bangs to keep the crowds away …

And now your boy had another BRILLIANT IDEA … at the 6 minute mark of the video that makes joKe out to be a complete and utter liar and completely incompetent … dude said he got an email this morning with a VISA in it that had no name, serial # or barcode on it … no identifier at all ….

he said every American citizen and hundreds if not thousands got these “VISA”s” emailed to them … he said all the afghan’s are printing out 100’s of them to pass out to family and friends … that oughta ease the congestion … BRILLIANT … and I’m sure the Taliban will have no plants getting them …

It seems like your joKe of a president is intent on making a horrible situation he created and Y’All are responsible for even worse … i didn’t think it could get any worse but your boy figured out a way to do just that ….

Y’all think joKe’s got this … how much faith u have in joKe now?

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Along with his treason on Jan. 6th.



You must've been left out of the loop...

FBI finds no evidence that Trump and his allies were directly involved with organizing the violence of the Capitol riot: report

https://news.yahoo.com/fbi-finds-no-evidence-trump-153636457.html



Metzger took the "FBI found scant evidence" story (scant = little) and cleaned it up to apply to Trump himself ONLY. But what you are missing is that if Trump and other lawmakers were not involved in planning a violent insurrection, then this crowd was incited to riot that day... Guess who did the inciting. SMDH, those pesky facts huh? lmao.

I also find this no evidence story hard to believe when Trump and his cronies were planning this January 6th event at least a month in advance. Trump called for patriots (Trumpian interpretation: idiots with guns) to come help Trump stop the steal on January 6th... IMHO that's all the pre planning evidence I need. GUILTY! GUILTY! GUILTY!

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You should learn to read... It doesn't say NO EVIDENCE...

The other thing is,, Just like EVERYTHING else from Trump world, claims are made long before the entire investigation is done..

But like always,,, don't believe your lying eyes.. Just believe what Trump world wants you to believe...


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LOl...this place is full of excuses.


Now I see the administration is telling Americans to stay away from the airport, it is too dangerous.

I wonder how many Americans are already in Taliban prisons? It's certain there are some, with the number bound to grow.

We have nimrods running our government who are going to abandon Americans.


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Did u listen to the last video I posted … it’s sad as hell … it’s incomprehensible … seriously Peen … and the plan if u want to call it that gets dumber and dumber as we move along …

The Taliban own us right now and every day that passes they get more entrenched … why we haven’t sent Seals, Delta Force and the Marine force Recon special ops out to get our people is beyond me … even with our weapons we’d kick there butts … but every day we wait the harder it’s going to be … the brits, France and I’ve heard Germany and the Aussie’s are going out on the ground and getting there people …

And this is just the start .. the ramifications are endless on so many levels …. The Chinese are in there glory with all the technology of ours they now have … advanced communication equipment .. I’ve heard we left some black hawks behind …. It makes no sense what we’ve done on any level …

Every word out of Lyin Hidin Biden in his last two chats with us has been a lie … his own admin said he was lying within 30 minutes of his BS yesterday …

JoKe said there was no problems outside the airport and no one was getting hurt … within an hour the dude from the state department admitted they knew Americans were getting beatin … that’s just one of 3 examples …

It’s literally a joKe … and the posters in here are some of the most INTELLECTUALLY DISHONEST people around … they fit right in with the liars at MSNBC & CNN and all the other liberal news stations, websites and papers …

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I'd laugh, but how true it is....pitiful. It's like a weekend at Bernie's. They prop him up, he stammers through a few words, then takes no questions and leaves. Probably back to Camp David where his handlers can keep him out of sight.

But hey, behind him is KamaLALA Harris. That should breed confidence.

No? Well, I didn't think so.


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I'd laugh, but how true it is....pitiful. It's like a weekend at Bernie's. They prop him up, he stammers through a few words, then takes no questions and leaves. Probably back to Camp David where his handlers can keep him out of sight.

But hey, behind him is KamaLALA Harris. That should breed confidence.

No? Well, I didn't think so.


Talk about hypocritical... Virtually every other word out of Trumps mouth was either an outright lie or misleading.

But you were silent on that..

KamaLALA and Breed... Sounds like a potential racist comment to me


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Not only that, the last administration basically did away with press briefings. Virtually only ever appeared on State Run faux news for pampering and enabling. It's clearer and clearer - Trump supporters are morally bankrupt hypocrites.


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LOl...you are goofy.


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LOl...you are goofy.


Wow, sounds like Daman is really searching for something to be offended about.

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I wonder how many Americans are already in Taliban prisons? It's certain there are some, with the number bound to grow.

We have nimrods running our government who are going to abandon Americans.


Do you have one shred of evidence to back up your rambling claim? Of course not. Which is exactly what I expected. Speaking of nimrods.


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If people like You, Peen and diam have your way, Kamala will be our next president! They say to be careful what you wish for. Sounds like you're not paying attentions.

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GOP Rep. Adam Kinzinger rips into Trump and Mike Pompeo for 'getting rolled' by the Taliban
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Rep. Adam Kinzinger slammed Trump and Pompeo for their negotiations with the Taliban last year.
"They set this up to fail," Kinzinger told CNN.
Kinzinger also blamed Biden over the current failure in Afghanistan.



Rep. Adam Kinzinger slammed the former Trump administration's deal with the Taliban, saying on Sunday that it set the stage for the current failure in Afghanistan.

The Illinois Republican said former President Donald Trump and his then-Secretary of State Mike Pompeo are at fault for America's "disastrous" withdrawal from the country.

"Donald Trump was publicly saying, 'We have to get out of Afghanistan at all costs. It's not worth it.' Mike Pompeo meets with the Taliban and tries to 'negotiate' something," Kinzinger said during an appearance on CNN.

"They ended up getting rolled almost as bad as Neville Chamberlain," he continued, referring to the British prime minister who negotiated the 1938 Munich Agreement, which was widely panned as enabling the Nazi invasion of Poland.

"They set this up to fail," Kinzinger said.

GOP Rep. Liz Cheney of Wyoming on Sunday also blasted Trump's deal, calling it a "surrender" to the Taliban.

"We sat down and negotiated with terrorists," Cheney told NBC News. "We gave credibility to the Taliban ... We completely undercut the Afghan national government. We absolutely emboldened the Taliban."

While president, Trump was eager to remove American troops from Afghanistan and end the US' longest-running war. But he took an unprecedented step to try and fulfill that aim: negotiate directly with the Taliban. His administration engaged in a series of talks with the militant group in Qatar, and even invited them to a secret meeting at the presidential retreat Camp David for the 9/11 anniversary in 2019. Trump later reversed this decision after a Taliban attack killed a US service member in Afghanistan.

Still, Trump reached a deal with the Taliban in February 2020, which stipulated that US troops would be withdrawn from Afghanistan within 14 months on the condition that the Taliban not turn the country into a terrorist base. The agreement had been widely criticized at the time for acceding to the Taliban and excluding the Afghan government. Pompeo attended the signing ceremony and took photos alongside Taliban leader Abdul Ghani Baradar, who is anticipated to head the next Taliban government in Afghanistan.

Trump has now attempted to absolve himself from the situation and pinned responsibility solely on President Joe Biden for the Taliban's takeover and the Afghan government's collapse.

Though Kinzinger on Sunday attacked Trump, he also placed blame on Biden, who "could've easily turned this around" once he became president.

"The Republicans are putting out talking points to make Biden look bad. The Democrats are putting out talking points to point out the past administration. In truth, they're both responsible," Kinzinger said.

"Both parties have failed the American people," he added.

Biden agreed to carry out Trump's deal and pull out of Afghanistan. This week he defended his withdrawal of US troops, despite receiving widespread criticism from both sides of the aisle amid disturbing scenes coming out of Kabul of people clamoring to leave the country and the resurgence of the Taliban.


https://www.businessinsider.com/adam-kinzinger-rips-donald-trump-pompeo-rolled-by-taliban-2021-8


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I think that the finger pointing is a bit meaningless.

We needed to get out of Afghanistan. No good was to come. The only question was how messy it would be. And it was.

But it is over and the Taliban won’t be able to suck the US dry.


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