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This is a place to keep tabs on the Ravens, Steelers, and Bengals during the season since they have a "special" place in our hearts.

It will be interesting to see how the Ravens handle the loss of Dobbins. Rumors flying that they've brought in L'Eveon Bell and DeSean McCoy for tryouts.

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Good idea.

Quincy Carrier the Browns youtube guy often brings in the reporters who cover the North teams.

He had the steeler guy yesterday.


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CLEVELAND BROWNS SCHEDULE 2021 (all times Eastern)

Week 1: 9/12 at Chiefs, 4:25 PM, CBS
Week 2: 9/19 vs. Houston, 1 PM, CBS
Week 3: 9/26 vs. Bears, 1 PM, Fox
Week 4: 10/3 at Vikings, 1 PM, CBS
Week 5: 10/10 at Chargers, 4:05 PM, CBS
Week 6: 10/17 vs. Cardinals, 4:05 PM, Fox
Week 7: 10/21 vs. Broncos, 8:20 PM, Fox/NFL Network/ Amazon
Week 8: 10/31 vs. Steelers, 1 PM, CBS
Week 9: 11/7 at Bengals, 1 PM, CBS
Week 10: 11/14 at Patriots, 1 PM, CBS
Week 11: 11/21 vs. Lions, 1 PM, Fox
Week 12: 11/28 at Ravens, 8:20 PM, NBC
Week 13: BYE
Week 14: 12/12 vs. Ravens, 1 PM, CBS
Week 15: 12/19 vs. Raiders, time & TV TBD
Week 16: 12/25 at Packers, 4:30 PM, Fox/NFL Network/Amazon
Week 17: 1/3 at Steelers, 8:15 PM, ESPN
Week 18: 1/9 vs. Bengals, 1 PM, CBS


Prime-time games
Sunday Night Football: Week 12 at Ravens
Monday Night Football: Week 17 at Steelers
Thursday Night Football: Week 7 vs. Broncos
Christmas Day: Week 16 vs. Packers


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BALTIMORE RAVENS SCHEDULE 2021 (all times Eastern)

Week 1: 9/13 at Raiders, 8:15 PM, ESPN/ABC
Week 2: 9/19 vs. Chiefs 8:20 PM, NBC
Week 3: 9/26 at Lions, 1 PM, CBS
Week 4: 10/3 at Broncos, 4:25 PM, CBS
Week 5: 10/11 vs. Colts, 8:15 PM, ESPN
Week 6: 10/17 vs. Chargers, 1 PM, CBS
Week 7: 10/24 vs. Bengals, 1 PM, CBS
Week 8: BYE
Week 9: 11/7 vs. Vikings, 1 PM, Fox
Week 10: 11/11 at Dolphins, 8:20 PM, Fox/NFL Network/Amazon
Week 11: 11/21 at Bears, 1 PM, CBS
Week 12: 11/28 vs. Browns, 8:20 PM, NBC
Week 13: 12/5 at Steelers, 4:25 PM, CBS
Week 14: 12/12 at Browns, 1 PM, CBS
Week 15: 12/19 vs. Packers, 1 PM, Fox
Week 16: 12/26 at Bengals, 1 PM, CBS
Week 17: 1/2 vs. Rams, 4:25 PM, Fox
Week 18: 1/9 vs. Steelers, 1 PM, CBS


Prime-time games
Sunday Night Football: Week 2 vs. Chiefs, Week 12. vs. Browns
Monday Night Football: Week 1 at Raiders, Week 5 vs. Colts,
Thursday Night Football: Week 10 at Dolphins


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PITTSBURGH STEELERS SCHEDULE 2021 (all times Eastern)

Week 1: 9/12 at Bills, 1 PM, CBS
Week 2: 9/19 vs. Raiders 1 PM, CBS
Week 3: 9/26 vs. Bengals, 1 PM, CBS
Week 4: 10/3 at Packers, 4:25 PM CBS
Week 5: 10/10 vs. Broncos, 1 PM, Fox
Week 6: 10/17 vs. Seahawks, 8:20 PM, NBC
Week 7: BYE
Week 8: 10/31 at Browns, 1 PM, CBS
Week 9: 11/8 vs. Bears, 8:15 PM, ESPN
Week 10: 11/14 vs. Lions, 1 PM, Fox
Week 11: 11/21 at Chargers, 8:20 PM, NBC
Week 12: 11/28 at Bengals, 1 PM, CBS
Week 13: 12/5 vs. Ravens, 4:25 PM, CBS
Week 14: 12/9 at Vikings, 8:20 PM Fox/NFL Network/ Amazon
Week 15: 12/19 vs. Titans, 1 PM, CBS
Week 16: 12/26 at Chiefs, 4:25 PM, CBS
Week 17: 1/3 vs. Browns, 8:15 PM, ESPN
Week 18: 1/9 at Ravens, 1 PM, CBS


Prime-time games
Sunday Night Football: Week 6 vs. Seahawks, Week 11 at Chargers
Monday Night Football: Week 9 vs. Bears, Week 17 vs. Browns
Thursday Night Football: Week 14 at Vikings


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CINCINNATI BENGALS SCHEDULE 2021 (all times Eastern)

Week 1: 9/12 vs. Vikings, 1 PM, Fox
Week 2: 9/19 at Bears, 1 PM, Fox
Week 3: 9/26 at Steelers, 1 PM, CBS
Week 4: 9/30 vs. Jaguars, 8:20 PM, NFL
Week 5: 10/10 vs. Packers, 1 PM, Fox
Week 6: 10/17 at Lions,1 PM, Fox
Week 7: 10/24 at Ravens, 1 PM, CBS
Week 8: 10/31 at Jets, 1 PM, CBS
Week 9: 11/7 vs. Browns, 1 PM, CBS
Week 10: BYE
Week 11: 11/21 at Raiders, 4:05 PM, CBS
Week 12: 11/28 vs. Steelers, 1 PM, CBS
Week 13: 12/5 vs. Chargers, 1 PM, Fox
Week 14: 12/12 vs. 49ers, 1 PM, CBS
Week 15: 12/19 at Broncos, 4:05 PM, CBS
Week 16: 12/26 vs. Ravens, 1 PM, CBS
Week 17: 1/2 vs. Chiefs, 1 PM, CBS
Week 18: 1/9 at Browns, 1 PM, CBS


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Thursday Night Football: Week 4 vs. Jaguars


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This is a good thread to have, thanks!

A few comments, with 1st quarter record predictions:

Ravens - Lamar is going to be playing superman again, at least early in the season. Their wideouts have been injured all throughout pre-season, plus we know Lamar was out with COVID. Result was they didn't get the passing game work in that they wanted. And despite the loss of JK, Gus is plenty good enough to run that option offense with Lamar. Defense is always solid. I hate to say it, but I think the Chiefs have a let-down game on the road after beating us week 1. Ravens go 4-0 to start.

Bengals - I would say that they're regretting the Jamar Chase pick, but from the sounds of things in Detroit, Sewell is struggling as well. That offense will still be really good once Burrow trusts his knee and his protection...sounds like they aren't there yet, so I think they lose the opener against that Vikings that they could otherwise win playing with confidence. They get off the schnide against Jax to go 1-3.

Steelers - Reports of their demise always seem to fall flat. I don't have a lot of belief in their longevity across the (even longer) season, but their defense is just sooo good. Loss of Tuitt early won't make a big difference. That OL, though, is in shambles. Both tackles are off-the-street guys, plus other new starters aren't great. Najee and Ben will earn every cent this season if they can produce behind that pile of garbage. The mystique is still enough to beat middle tier Bengals and Raiders, so they go 2-2.

Browns - I have some serious concerns about this defense. Has our starting back 7 played a single snap together, even in practice? Unless somehow the DL is dominant (like Clowney and Takk recapture their best + McDowell emerges), this D is gonna be just as bad as last year early on. The offense will be fine, and will carry us through 3 games, however, they aren't good enough to keep up with the Chiefs until proven otherwise. Browns lose another opener, but rise up to 3-1.


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Browns - I have some serious concerns about this defense. Has our starting back 7 played a single snap together, even in practice? Unless somehow the DL is dominant (like Clowney and Takk recapture their best + McDowell emerges), this D is gonna be just as bad as last year early on.
I get your point, but I disagree. The single replacement of Andrew Sendejo with JJ3 makes this defense better than last year's. Add Walker in the middle, and I think the starting point for this year's D is last year's at it's best.


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Browns - I have some serious concerns about this defense. Has our starting back 7 played a single snap together, even in practice? Unless somehow the DL is dominant (like Clowney and Takk recapture their best + McDowell emerges), this D is gonna be just as bad as last year early on.
I get your point, but I disagree. The single replacement of Andrew Sendejo with JJ3 makes this defense better than last year's. Add Walker in the middle, and I think the starting point for this year's D is last year's at it's best.


That actually probably the most reasonable and valid direct comparison to last year that there is. Literally, just the replacing Sendejo with JJ3 part makes us at least one score per game better. With just that one move, the giant gaping hole in our defense that gave up a 1st down anytime an opponent needed it has been effectively closed and opponents will have to actually work a little against us. I think perhaps folks forget just how much of a problem Sendejo and the Safety position was for us last year. Harrison & JJ3 is far and away better than Sendejo & Redwine/Joseph, and that is still not counting anything from Delpit.
Edit to add that I just realized that not one of the starting Safeties from last year is even on the roster this year, and the guy that was our #2 CB has been replaced as well.

LB corps... at the very least, it is no worse than it was, and in terms of talent and intelligence/knowledge brought in, it is largely upgraded on paper.

The interior DLine is still worrisome until they show us something, but I do like the upside potential that is there.... I just need to see it be stout before I can trust that it isn't still a problem.

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Here's an interesting look back in time. Last year's ClevelandBrowns.com position preview for the Safeties:


https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/browns-2020-position-preview-analyzing-the-safeties


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Woods was hamstrung last year. He accepted it and had to play with what he had.

All true that this defense has not been able to play the indended starters because of soft tissue injuries and management being justifiably cautious.

However, there is still a boatload of preparation work that is done.

Key veterans at every level will help. Myles, Clowney, and Malik Jackson. Anthony Walker midlevel. JJ3, Harrison, and Ward on the back end.

Last year the secondary was a mess.

If we can get consistent pressure from the front. IMO we will be fine early on.

When things start to tighten after Thanksgiving. We should be hitting full stride.

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Woods was hamstrung last year. He accepted it and had to play with what he had.

All true that this defense has not been able to play the indended starters because of soft tissue injuries and management being justifiably cautious.

However, there is still a boatload of preparation work that is done.

Key veterans at every level will help. Myles, Clowney, and Malik Jackson. Anthony Walker midlevel. JJ3, Harrison, and Ward on the back end.

Last year the secondary was a mess.

If we can get consistent pressure from the front. IMO we will be fine early on.

When things start to tighten after Thanksgiving. We should be hitting full stride.


I would not be surprised to see McDowell, play very early for Billings, I have concerns about Billings, for as large of a person, he was rag-dolled numerous times. McDowell on the other hand was rag dolling OL.....

Although the offense is much the same, DPJ and Felton will be adding something to the mix. You can tell that the Browns really like Felton.

It will ultimately come down to injuries. The teams that stay healthy finish well.


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Billing made the team based on past experience over anything he showed in camp, and I get that to a degree.

We have to hope the guy continues to progress as the season unfolds because it is pretty obvious his season off turned him to to a ton of blubber.

The NT position has a history of big guys who look more fat than anything else, but they remained strong as an ox and could still move to some degree.

Let's just say that Billings hasn't found his sweet spot. My guess is the team has the guy on some weight targets and if he doesn't start to come close to meeting those targets he could get released 3-4-5 weeks in to the season.


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I remain hopeful that our defense’s sucktitude last year was based on Woods being a victim of bad personnel.

With Johnson, Hill, Walker, Clowney, Delpit, Greedy, and JOK we have no excuse to be bad this season


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Billings is for sure a wait and see case.

Maybe the team is being patient as he plays his way into shape.

All that I heard from camp is how strong he is.

That may be true but when he played in preseason games. He didn't show much.

He has experience.

Malik Jackson is an experienced guy as well. So that is a good thing.

However, both are not long term guys.

Elliott, McDowell, and Togiai hopefully will be the future.

Not sure about NT as a traditional position in the defense Woods wants to run.

Jackson, McDowell, and Elliott all rush and look to penetrate.

Billings is more of a A gap O technique guy.

IMO Woods will rotate a lot guys in the interior.

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It's interesting that the Ravens didn't make a move to upgrade their running back situation with the loss of Dobbins, so far. How will this affect Lamar? We'll see.

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It's interesting that the Ravens didn't make a move to upgrade their running back situation with the loss of Dobbins, so far. How will this affect Lamar? We'll see.


They will just let Lamar take Dobbins carries.

One day Lamar is going to get hit and not recover or it will be death by 1000 tackles.


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It's interesting that the Ravens didn't make a move to upgrade their running back situation with the loss of Dobbins, so far. How will this affect Lamar? We'll see.


To my eyes, JK was only slightly better than Gus Edwards. And they really like their now-2nd string Ty'son Williams. I don't see any change at all in their effectiveness running the ball


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To my eyes, JK was only slightly better than Gus Edwards. And they really like their now-2nd string Ty'son Williams. I don't see any change at all in their effectiveness running the ball


I was thinking more along the lines of protection. They're probably all good runners but I don't have any idea of their blocking ability.

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It's interesting that the Ravens didn't make a move to upgrade their running back situation with the loss of Dobbins, so far. How will this affect Lamar? We'll see.


They will just let Lamar take Dobbins carries.

One day Lamar is going to get hit and not recover or it will be death by 1000 tackles.


No they won't. Gus Edwards is a good back. He will get a ton of carries this year.


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The place where the Browns have a clear advantage over all the other teams in the AFCN is the offensive line.

The Steelers line will struggle again this year, and I have serious doubts Ben makes it through the season unscathed. They have no depth on the OL.

I think Baltimore's line will struggle this year as well, even though they tried to fix it this offseason. I think Villanueva will struggle at RT, and their OL depth is not very good.

I also think both those teams lack the depth of the Browns. This is very important, with a 17th game added this year.

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Ravens running back Justice Hill tears achilles. Bell and Freeman back for workouts...

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Tough break for their RB room again


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I sign Bell instead of Freeman. He should compliment Gus Edwards better, given his style of play.


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"First down inside the 10. A score here likely puts us in the Super Bowl. Landry is far to the left as Hooper settles into the slot. OBJ is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Hunt are split in the backfield as Baker takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Ravens just signed L. Bell.


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It appears they signed him to the practice squad.

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Everytime Troy Aikman or Joe Buck or whatever dumb one sits next to them makes another call about Gus Edwards and his 1 yard outside carry, I'm going to Break my TV!
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When I first heard that the Ravens' had Bell in for a visit I added him to my fantasy squad. I didn't like RB depth. So I guessed that between Bell and Freeman they would sign Bell. The fact that they signed him to the PS only gives them and Bell time to get him up to speed. Then he will be moved to the 53. This seems inevitable since they only have Gus Edwards and a guy named Ty'Son Williams on their current 53 man roster.


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I guess that is how some people view it.

To me it is the start.

I'd rather beat them in December.


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I guess that is how some people view it.

To me it is the start.

I'd rather beat them in December.


I would rather beat them in January but that is just me..... rofl


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A little off topic here, but is there going to be a extra playoff spot for two teams in each conference again?


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I like this because we know where Greedy is, and that was passable. If Newsome is above that, then we're doing good.


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One of the toughest divisions in the NFL. Browns could win 12 games and still not win the division.

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They are winning 15. No problem.


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Hello, Latavius Murray. As big a loss as Edwards is, losing Marcus Peters would be a huge blow to that defense.

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