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The words you're searching for are 'deliberately obtuse'.

Did you read my clarification?

I think people think that hospitals are just a big building with rooms that can hold any type of patient. There are units, wings, that are for specialties. I’m a nurse. I’m not an ICU nurse. I can’t just go work an ICU unit. That’s not how it works. It’s a specialty. There are hundreds of rooms in hospitals that I could work. Med surg units mainly. Only a small fraction of hospital beds can hold COVID patients. The rest of the hospital will never hold those people. The hospitals are now not filling those other beds because the communities they serve are overrun with COVID. They’re not doing their regular business because they’re not going to risk community spread COVID on their med surg units so grandpa can get his knee replaced, or your kid can have his tonsils out. So yes, the hospitals aren’t ‘full’. But they aren’t doing for the community what they normally do. Why? COVID. Who’s filling the VERY LIMITED ICU beds? The unvaccinated.

You can try to get me on technicalities in my explanation but you can’t change these facts.
I’m done trying to lay this out for you people. You obviously have no clue how the medical systems work in this country.

iT’s a 200 bEd hOSpiTal. ThEY caN fiT 200 COVID pAtiEnTs iN tHEre! WhY cAn’T grANdMa gET heR hiP RePlaCemEnt sUrgerY DoNe yET?!?!

Is that the 3rd one this month? Beginning to think you like those a little too much.

Every friday like clockwork. Hey It's the only time another woman can play with my butt and my wife is happy about it.

It's actually the first time in almost 7 years that I got to go one year instead of every six months.

I will take that bet for any amount you're willing to throw down. Here in NWOH, we have reopened Covid units in specialty areas. I heard from one of our ICU nurses yesterday that over half the pts in their extended ICU are COVID+, and all but one of them have not been vaccinated. They had to reconvert some med surg beds to ICU beds. This is from a frontline colleague where I work, not some skewed numbers from a biased website. We have re-dedicated a unit in my area for only COVID+ patients.

At all of our system hospitals, restrictions will again be implemented starting tomorrow: No visitiation, only 1 entrance to each facility open to the public, only self serve packaged foods in the cafeteria, no visitors, and I'm pretty sure no vendors or non necessary ancillary services. I also don't know if they're going to restrict the elective surgeries or outpatient services as of yet. (I have been off work since Wed and the email came on Thursday. I just found out about it this weekend.) Trust me, this costs the hospital so much money they wouldn't do it unless this situation were real.

Get your head out of the sand. Go find and talk to some ICU nurses and doctors. I'm not sure what's going on in nursing homes in this area, but it's real in the hospitals.

This situation isn't a place to showboat your political stance. With very few exceptions, anybody that doesnt' get vaccinated is a self serving idiot.

Here’s a FB cut and paste from my ER doctor buddy. I edited out/changed certain personal, identifiable words for his anonymity.

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Over the past month or two I’ve treated a quite significant increase in number of Covid cases, as you can likely imagine from the news. I do want to share my personal experience that *every single really sick person I’ve admitted to the hospital during this time has been unvaccinated.* I have not personally admitted a single sick vaccinated individual. I have also not personally seen a single patient this year with a significant vaccine reaction or an illness I could attribute to it.

The one thing different about these recent months is that we are seeing really sick otherwise healthy folks in their 20’s-50’s, and some kids too, not just the 60+ age group with underlying medical conditions like during the first rounds. The really sick guy I admitted yesterday was 28 (PHOTO NOT INSERTED FOR THIS FORUM) (otherwise healthy, chest X-ray with identifiers removed is shown with permission, all the white stuff in the lungs are patches of infection...I’ve seen more X-rays like this in the recent past than I can count!). This is just the personal experience of one ER Doc practicing full time at a busy hospital in a major metropolitan area. I feel all my colleagues have had a similar experience however... This delta variant is really nasty.

There is just so much bickering about all this it is saddening. The vaccine is very clearly saving lives from this horrible virus, it keeps people out of the hospital and away from death. Masks too. Some can try to “research" this 46 ways from Sunday… Keep writing paragraph upon paragraph upon paragraph, post upon vehement daily post, come up with all kinds of angles of ulterior motives, profiteering, global conspiracies, bodily autonomy agendas, perpetuate the divisiveness flowing in all directions, flame the culture wars, etc, etc, etc…. I’ve read them, there is merit in some of those angles, of course. All knowledge seeming innocent and pure becomes a deadly weapon in the hands of avarice and greed.

And still, at the end of the day, **HONEY VIRUS DON’T GIVE A (CRAP)!!!** This virus is no joke, it shows no mercy and it doesn’t care about your reasonings or anyone else’s secondary agendas.

Please stay safe friends and please take good care of yourself and each other! We will get through this together!!

https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/

And with the rebuttal are a bunch of anti-vaxxers. Oh wait, they are all dead. Sorry to all these folks, but you didn't make an informed decision, bought the hype and paid everything for it.

Still, read some of social media posts or look them up on FB and see their posts in the last year and a half and then some will have the "oh [censored]" post when they are in the hospital and can't breathe

So throughout this tantrum there was still no evidence it helps or works. Thanks!

But why should he listen to you and Portland? Why should he be shown that this is happening in many states when he believes it's "only a few"? Why would he believe that since it's already happening in several states that it won't spread to other states if more people don't get vaccinated? I mean people never travel from state to state for conventions, to go to concerts and sporting event's, right?

I mean it's never spread across the nation when starting in several hot spots before? Oh no, wait, that's exactly what happened before. Data guy my ass.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes....tions-soar/amp/

These 6 States Have Almost No ICU Beds Left As Covid Hospitalizations Soar

TOPLINE As new Covid-19 infections increase nationwide, some communities are facing a looming hospital capacity crunch, with open space in intensive care units falling below 10% in six states.
Almost 78% of beds in U.S. hospital intensive care units are in use, and roughly one-third of adult ICU patients (or 22,345) have the coronavirus, according to data from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.

Alabama has the nation’s worst capacity crunch, with HHS reporting more ICU patients than total beds — health officials said Alabama ran out of ICU capacity Wednesday and dozens of patients were forced to wait for space, as the state grapples with the country’s eighth-highest Covid-19 infection rate (cases have dropped off slightly in the last week).

In Georgia, 94% of statewide ICU beds are currently in use following a 74% jump in daily coronavirus cases over the last two weeks, and the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported some Atlanta hospitals needed to divert ambulances due to capacity issues.

ICU capacity sits at 93.2% in Florida and 93% in Mississippi, which have the nation’s third-highest and highest new Covid-19 infection rates, respectively.

Texas reported ICU usage of 92.7%, and Dallas-area hospitals warned Thursday that if their region runs out of intensive care beds, they may need to consider vaccination status when prioritizing who to treat.

Kentucky is using 90.7% of its ICU beds, and Gov. Andy Beshear said Wednesday every hospital bed in the state may be taken up in the next two weeks.

ICU occupancy is above 80% in 10 other states: Louisiana (89.3%), Missouri (88.9%), Oklahoma (87.9%), Arkansas (87.4%), Nevada (85.4%), North Carolina (84.8%), South Carolina (83.8%), New Mexico (83.6%), Idaho (82.7%) and Maine (80.4%).

Coronavirus infections have spiked across the United States in recent weeks due to the virus’ more contagious delta variant, driving up hospitalizations in much of the country. States with low uptake of Covid-19 vaccines — which reduce the risk of infection and severe illness from Covid-19 — are especially hard-hit. Some 60.2% of Americans are at least partially vaccinated against coronavirus, but out of the six states with the worst ICU capacity issues, only one — Florida — has topped 60%.

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But it’s hardly anywhere.

Of course that is your elementary takeaway.

So where did it say or show that it's effective? It didn't.

Again.....wildly missing the point.

Not surprising.

I thought the point was to try and address the Covid pandemic in a manner that will help lower deaths and hospitalizations. But then when people try to advocate another quack cure that they can't make a good argument for they'll try a different tactic. No, I get it.

Are Covid Vaccines Part of the Mark of the Beast System?
by ETHAN HUFF September 6, 2021 in Conspiracy, End Times, Religion, Truth

Remember when the government promised that it would take just two weeks of tyranny to “flatten the curve,” only to instead have it persist in perpetuity for the rest of the foreseeable future? This writer sure does.

What was supposed to just be a temporary inconvenience to help “save lives” has become a permanent albatross of dehumanization and soon slaughter as the goats of this world line themselves up for injection after injection, with no end in sight.

If you refuse to wear a mask, then you are killing grandma. If you refuse to get “vaccinated,” then you only care about yourself and need to be punished as a second-class citizen. If you do anything to try to live a normal life outside the bounds of government guidelines, then you deserve to be exterminated, is where all of this is headed.

None of this was ever really about saving lives, of course. It is plain to see that those who orchestrated this psychological campaign of mass genocide could not care less about your life or anyone else’s, and are actually seeking to destroy it at “warp speed.”

Only the dullest of minds could ever possibly think otherwise, based on all that is transpiring day after day in this dystopian nightmare called life in 2021. Twenty-twenty was bad enough, and soon the world will have to contend with 2022 and whatever that should bring to the table.

Are covid “vaccines” the first piece of the mark of the beast?
The writing is already on the wall for mandatory injection policies as the nation’s more “progressive” areas gradually adopt “vaccine passport” protocols designed to ostracize those who refuse to get the jab.

It begins with non-essentials like restaurants and sporting events – things people can live without, even if life becomes a whole lot less exciting in the process. Eventually, necessities like groceries and employment become condition-based on one’s jab status.

Yet, many seem to recall certain passages from the Bible that foretold about this time. There will come a day, the passages read, when in order to buy and sell, one must take a “mark.” Without that mark, you can kiss your life and freedom goodbye.

We are already witnessing the early stages of this prophecy come to fulfillment. The things people do (the right hand) and think (the forehead) are rapidly becoming conditional upon obeying the government’s orders, in this case with a questionable injection that we know permanently alters one’s DNA, or “God imprint.”

Some would argue that this injection is not yet the mark, but consider the fact that ‘science’ has become the world’s new and only accepted religion, with covid vaccines as its sacrament.

The beast system that is pushing these injections, meanwhile, demands that you give it the utmost worth (worship) to the point that you lay down your life (change your DNA) as a sacrifice to show that you are an adherent.

Whoever refuses to worship this beast system by rolling up their sleeve is quickly becoming an outcast, or someone who has “come out from among her” rather than convert.

While there are certainly more pieces to come as far as this mark is concerned, the injections are laying the groundwork for them. You might even call it an operating system upon which later software “upgrades” will be injected, aka the “booster” shots.

Consider all this before simply discounting the idea because your favorite preacher or news source says otherwise. There are no second chances when it comes to this stuff, so you had better be sure you are not mistaken.

To keep up with the latest news about Chinese Virus injections, check out ChemicalViolence.com.

https://truthbasedmedia.com/2021/09/06/are-covid-vaccines-part-of-the-mark-of-the-beast-system/

A photo of Super getting his updated ‘news’ download.

so I thought this was interesting... my very good friend's child was in ICU earlier this week for 3 days.

The parents said they were blown away that the hospital nursing staff is only at 50%. In turn, the hospital only had 50% of the ICU beds available because they didn't have the nurses to service the other 50% of beds. The hospital is now claiming their beds are like 70% full. When in fact, they are only at 50% because they are short half their nursing staff.

Ethan Huff


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/10...-Actually-Exist

you stand with My Pillow.

I mean there is little to add to what you post.

You have made your case.

"the vaccine is the mark of the beast."

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Ok. I am coming unglued here. The vaccines keep the vast majority of COVID+ people from becoming hospitalized, seriously ill or dying. The disease is once again spreading. There is a demand for ICU and dedicated COVID beds, the vast majority being filled with the unvaccinated. These are FACTS. Get that thru your thick skulls. The only evidence to the contrary is from biased sites or second and third hand information.

Anybody that's familiar with me around here knows that I lean conservative and laugh at most of the liberal agendas found in this forum.

BUT.....This pandemic is real. It's getting worse. I (and others here) work in the field and see it. As I said, with few exceptions, anyone that doesn't get vaccinated is a self serving idiot.

find ethan huff?

"the vaccine the mark of the beast"

do as you please. this forum is a waste of time.

the same bs from the same people.

what is point?

believe all you seek. look where you may.

While there may be some truth to your post, most of it is not true. According to my son, an NP, and my daughter, who works at Toledo Hospital.

They had, last I spoke with her, 4 covid cases on her floor. That floor is a "regular" unit. Other floors are similar, at Toledo Hospital.

Bro in laws mother was admitted. Totally vaxxed. She then got sent to ICU, after spending 5 days or so in just the hospital. (not the same hospital my daughter works in)

Son in law, completely vaxxed - just quarantine at home. He's fine, so far.

I am not aware of, around here, any surgeries being postponed/delayed due to covid patients. There is plenty of room for accident victims, heart attack patients, etc. It must be different where you live?

It is.

Your facts always come from your little corner of the world. Honestly, it’s your thing, and it’s annoying. You telling people that something is not true based on what a couple people in your family are seeing and saying is ridiculous.

I travel the country and work at hospitals from Alaska to Key West. I see what is going on across the country and there are many places that are very close to or already seeing people dying who do not need to. Unvaccinated people are putting themselves and others at risk.

There have been a number of people on this thread talking about Ohio hospitals and hospitals across the country and what they are seeing, yet you and others choose to ignore them, based on your politics and personal stories from a couple of people.

Some of you need to peek out of your own little bubble and realize that just because you have not witnessed what is happening, there is a great big world outside of your own. Telling other people what they are actually seeing is not true because you and your little group are seeing something different is showing true ignorance.

To you, and portland: Fine. I'll refrain from posting about what I know, and I'll let the "experts" and cnn tell me what I don't know.

I've never once said it wasn't bad - covid. Perhaps you both haven't read those posts?

I've never once been an anti vaxxer - perhaps you've both missed those posts? Remember, I've had the vaccine, wife has, son has, daughter has, etc.

My "little corner" of the world is not fed ..............eh, forget it.
You 2 are the experts and take precedence over any nurses or doctors around here.

I read your post. I didn’t refute it. I merely answered it is different where I am.
Lighten up.

Might want to tell jules that as well?

I am just reporting the data from Lucas County (Toledo) for the seven days ending on Sept 3, 2021-The percent change is a increase or decline from the previous 7 days. This data is directly from the CDC-Take it for what it is worth.

Total Cases (last 7 days in Lucas Cty) 1037
Percent change +23.7

Percent Positivity (last 7 days) 12.61
Percent Change +1.52

Test Performed (last 7 days) 7798
% Change + 16.44%

New Hospital Admissions (last 7 days) 146
% Change (last 7 days) + 39.05%

% ICU Beds used (last 7 days) 10.1%
% Change + 2.71

Lucas County
Percent total population with one shot 50.1%
Percent fully vaccinated 47.6%

Where should they come from? China's numbers?

Russia's numbers?

How is it a country of 330 million has the highest number of cases in the world?

How is it cnn tells us daily how terrible the situation is, yet I speak facts from Toledo, and Columbus, as well as Philadelphia, and Seattle.

Is it bad? Sure. Someone posted about portland and Idaho. Didn't show any numbers though.

What am I SUPPOSED to say? When the world isn't posting the proper numbers (based on population) or the u.s. posting inflated numbers..............help me out.

Numbers…

Portland,
I just checked your numbers for % hospital bed utilization and % ICU and they are horrible-the worst of the whole pandemic

northlima dawg, why don't you check and see how many unvaccinated illegals are taking up hospital space? Kate Brown is welcoming those people with open arms but I doubt data is being recorded.

This article is from the Texas border, and those unvaccinated illegals are disbursing all over the U.S.





Townhall tipsheet Julio Rosas

Texas Border Town Reveals How Many COVID Positive Illegal Immigrants Were Released By Border Patrol

Julio Rosas

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Posted: Aug 04, 2021


MCALLEN, Texas — The city leaders for the border town of McAllen declared a local state of disaster due to the continuing increase of illegal immigrants crossing into the United States and being released by Border Patrol within the city.

In a statement sent out on Wednesday, the city of McAllen explained the respite center run by Catholic Charities has been overwhelmed by the number of people being handed over by Border Patrol in recent weeks, which meant the immigrants were in danger of having nowhere to go. So the city was forced to create a temporary shelter to house the immigrants:

"This significant change increases the threat of COVID spread or other lawlessness within the city. At the beginning of July, the Respite Center saw an average of 750 people per day. That number, over the course of the month, escalated to over 1,100 people per day, and so far in August has surged to over 1,900 people per day. The Respite Center has capacity for only 1,236 occupants and will not allow more than its maximum occupancy at any given time. Therefore, beginning in August 2021, there has been a significant threat of leaving hundreds on the streets of McAllen with no place to turn for food, shelter, medical attention, or other humanitarian services. It was at this point that McAllen Mayor Javier Villalobos saw no option other than to declare a Local State of Disaster in McAllen so the City of McAllen could obtain necessary county and state resources to address the situation that it did not create."

To make matters worse, according to the statement, Border Patrol released at least 7,000 people into the city who later tested positive for COVID-19, with over new 1,500 COVID cases in just the past week.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/juliorosas...eading-n2593621

unvaccinated illegals


Quick call Tucker!

Had, All the states with the most cases are border states.
Georgia, New York, Illinois, California, Texas.
Had was had, Where are all the airport inport centers for international travelers had was had, the three biggest are Chicago, New York and Atlanta, and then the ones in California because it is far west.

Now was had, The years and years of bringing in people from all over the world had did lead, led to the changing of the language.
People had would may did, won't use the correct tense because it's too hard to teach different tenses of English to all the illegal aliens who flood Americas' borders every year.
and they are probably unvaccinated, had was were.

To the end that, nobody can even talk, amoung the young generations, that something happened in the past tense, but just simply putting an ed on the end of a verb to gain the past tense.
So to accomidate all the non English speakers, they'll put the word had in front of words that don't need it, like words already in the happened tense, like the word happened.
Something happens, it happened, or
they need to put had had had had happened in front of it, or nobody can understand what's going on, because native English speakers are being overrun in America.

1900 people per day, just in McCallum?

That is 160 people per Hour is you only take daytime hours.
How is this not an invasion!

You had to look him up? I stopped right at the top when I saw..


by ETHAN HUFF September 6, 2021 in Conspiracy, End Times, Religion, Truth

Well we’re back to about 1400 a day in deaths. Yay

j/c: