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and Biden is a bumbling old fool who often comes across as not in command of his faculties.... now obviously, nobody of any importance in a foreign country is going to take a call from ME warning them that our President is on the verge of full senility or dementia.. but I bet if Karl Rove or Newt Gingrich called, they could talk to somebody important.. and it would all be cool because they are putting America First.

You still think important foreign leaders take calls from has-beens like Newt and Karl?

It sounds like the argument you're putting up flies in the face of many military commanders as shown above.

Yea, I'm sure they still know people...


I don't care about military commanders.. this is about America.

So how does telling China we're not planning to attack them "hurt America" again?

And since good ole Karl and Newt haven't sniffed the White House in a while, they have no clue what's going on now.

DC, nobody would listen to any ex high ranking trump loving GOPer these days. Republicans are the laughingstock of the world right now. You can thank DJT for that.

But to answer your question, if anyone stopped the launch of nukes or the starting of a war with China or North Korea under a mentally inept or mentally declining POTUS, I would have to defend those actions. In extreme situations where the law of the land is twisted and flies in the face common sense, OR what is in the best interest of the country AND its people, OR even more importantly preserving our democracy; then on a case-by-case basis, where the spirit of the law outweighs the letter of the law, then certain actions become MORE acceptable or completely acceptable and the right thing to do in the situation. It's not all 100% black and white.

Also, DC, if the dems ever install a guy that wants to be the forever POTUS (an authoritarian leader) and starts making moves to make that happen; I'd be one of the folks fighting that crap with you.

Will also be one of the first to call for Biden to step down or be removed by invoking the 25th if he ever shows signs of actually betraying American interests or puts our democracy at risk due to mental decline. So far, his 'slipping' (signs of aging mentally) is/are far from damaging to the country or our democracy itself. Joe is far from perfect and not who I would have picked if it were up to me only to decide, but he is doing his best to handle a pandemic, end the forever wars, and re-invent our economy in a way that will get us through the next half century, hopefully leading the world.

I can hear the conversation starter now from either Karl or Newt. "Well, back in my day when I actually knew what in the hell was going on...."

I think the biggest fear by those around Trump was after listening to the tape of him trying to force Georgia election officials to cheat in the election and with "the big lie" about the election being stolen they had to wonder just how far he would go to stay in power. At some point one would have to believe he would stop at nothing.

He did stop at nothing.

He was stopped by people doing the right thing.
He was stopped by America voting his loser ass out of office (pop & college).

Pit you seem to be missing the point. I don't care what his intentions were. I don't care if he THOUGHT he was doing the right thing. I don't care if his actions caused no harm.

There are very strict rules between the White House, Congress, and the State Department about who is allowed represent the US in these relationships, anybody who isn't cleared to have these conversations must get clearance in advance to talk to foreign entities, what they are allowed to disclose, etc.

Everybody with a title isn't just allowed to run to foreign powers with "news" or promises, no matter their good intentions, because they have some intuition or gut feeling that something bad MIGHT happen.

Per the article I posted on page 8:


“Having communications with counterparts around the world is routine, and even having them now with China,” he told ABC’s Martha Raddatz.

He added that Mr Milley’s call was “listened to by other people in the inter-agency process”, meaning that it was not done without the knowledge of the US intelligence and military community.

Check out Jesters post he referred to. This wasn't a negotiation which would require what you are referring to.

[1] He was doing the right thing.
[2] He wasn't making promises to foreign powers - you are maybe getting confused with Michael Flynn.

I was going to call China and tell them Biden was senial and unhinged but the lines were busy.

Exactly,, Nothing hidden.. Those that needed to hear, heard.

Unlike calls and meetings with Foriegn leaders that Trump did privately and with Malice.

When you become the United States Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, let us know.

In their faux outrage the facts no longer matter.

#triggered

Even though he's slower than he used to be, I'm pretty sure Biden can still spell senile.

Rule #1 of being a smartass: make sure you're smart first. That way, you don't look like an ass.


sorry bro- but you walked right into that one!

How smart can you be if you voted for Biden? But you are good at spelling.

It didn't make any difference whether you voted for trump or not. He was going to do everything he could get away with to try and steal the election anyway.

Smart enough to correct a 4-year mistake you made...

BIG BIG BIG MISTAKE...

SO, Those of us that voted for Biden (all 80+ million of your fellow americans) aren't smart?

Funny,, Biden didn't lie over 30,000 times in 5 years, but those of us that voted for him aren't smart? Biden isn't hated by all but dictators around the world, but we are the dummies for voting for him.

Just think, you believed it when Trump told you that he was going to make Mexico pay for the wall. But my guess is you never gave a second thought that it wasn't all Mexicans entering the USA. In fact, it was mostly folks from other south american countries. You bought that,, and we're not smart?

Yikes

So, you admit the Mexican border is a mess. Thanks.

Does it matter WhO is coming across illegally? As long as it isn't Mexicans, you're fine with it?

Mostly people from other south american countries? Correct. Pipeline. Mexico won't stop them, and we won't stop them. Hmmmm

Excellent post on hate is not strong enough.

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Your earlier post on hate is not strong enough to define how you feel about trump.

Despise is not strong enough either. He is a repulsive human being. His history is one of consistent despicable acts. Him mocking a disabled person. His treatment of a goldstar family. Trump fraud university. The list is endless.

Nothing scratches the surface as his utter failure in a time of crisis. His conduct, his actions, his lies when he was informed about covid (kung flu); resulted in loss of lives that should forever mark him as the most incompetent head of government in all history.

I can think of no other person who has ever run for the office of president of the United States who would have handled covid the way he did. Unforgivable.

trump's presidency is one of the worst things to ever happen in this country. At any other time in probably any country, Jan. 6th would have had him beheaded, or hung.

If that was not treason. What is?

Your point about voting for him in 2016 as unaware of what he truly is. I can understand. Hilary was not an ideal candidate although she may have been one of the most qualified candidates to ever run.

For any American to support him after Jan. 6th. Makes that person no different than Traitor Don.

266,307 Americans have died from COVID-19 since President Joe Biden took office.


From Real Clear Politics

By Kayla Gowdy
April 10, 2020
6 Biden Lies About Trump's COVID Response




Here are Joe Biden’s six most egregious COVID-19 lies:

1. President Trump called coronavirus a hoax

Editing President Trump out of context is Democrats’ favorite way to exploit this national emergency for political purposes. Biden’s campaign took two separate statements made by the president at a rally to make it look like he said, “Coronavirus, this is their new hoax.” If you go through the transcript of the president’s statements that night, it is clear that it never happened. President Trump rightfully said the politicization of the crisis is a hoax, just like the Russia witch hunt and the impeachment charade. The Washington Post even awarded Biden four Pinocchios for manipulating the video. But President Trump never said, and never would say, the disease itself is a hoax.

2. The Trump administration rejected WHO coronavirus test kits

During the March 15 presidential debate, Biden asserted the Trump administration “refused to get coronavirus testing kits from the World Health Organization,” while attacking the president for his handling of the COVID-19 response. The truth? WHO spokeswoman Margaret Harris said, “No discussion occurred between WHO and CDC about WHO providing COVID-19 tests to the United States.” How could President Trump reject something that was never offered?

3. Trump eliminated entities responsible for global health security and biodefense

On March 19, Biden tweeted, “The Obama-Biden Administration set up the White House National Security Council Directorate for Global Health Security and Biodefense to prepare for future pandemics like COVID-19. Donald Trump eliminated it.” This characterization, however, completely distorts what happened. After President Trump took office, the NSC established the counterproliferation and biodefense directorate, which included global health and biodefense. Tim Morrison, who ran the new directorate, claimed this change made America’s biodefense response even stronger.

4. Trump made no effort to get medical professionals to China

At the end of March, during an interview with Anderson Cooper, Biden said, “You should get into China and get our experts there. We have the best in the world. Get them in so we know what is actually happening. There was no effort to do that.” However, on January 6, the Trump administration began offering to send a CDC team to China, one week after China publicly acknowledged the virus. On January 7, the CDC set up its coronavirus incident management system before the first death was reported and while China was still claiming there was no evidence the virus could spread from human to human. And on January 8, CDC representatives visited Wuhan.

5. Trump told governors they were on their own in getting medical equipment

During a CNN town hall, Joe Biden said President Trump told governors they were on their own in getting medical equipment. The problem? That’s not what the president said. Although many liberal news outlets ran with the first half of President Trump’s quote, “Respirators, ventilators, all of the equipment — try getting it yourselves,” the second half of the quote clearly said, “[The federal government] will be backing you, but try getting it yourselves. Point of sales, much better, much more direct if you can get it yourself.” Biden knew about the entire quote nine days before he repeated the lie on national television.

6. Trump slashed the Centers for Disease Control budget

During an interview on ABC’s “This Week” in early March, Joe Biden asserted. “They’ve cut the — the Centers for Disease Control. They’ve cut the funding for — they’ve tried to cut the funding for NIH, the National Institute of Health.” He recently doubled down on his argument on Twitter. It’s important to note, however, that the Obama administration tried to cut the CDC’s budget five out of its eight years in the White House. In reality, the CDC’s budget is 7% larger now than under President Obama’s final years in office.

History proves Joe Biden’s failed pandemic responses. While he likes to tout his leadership with handling the 2014 Ebola crisis for how he would lead the country through COVID-19, many former Obama officials have said Biden was not at the center of the Ebola response. Additionally, during the 2009 H1N1 crisis, administration officials repeatedly had to walk back false or misleading statements Biden gave about the virus.

There is no good reason for Joe Biden to consistently lie to the American public. Perhaps it’s more of his senior moments that prove he has no concept of reality. Or maybe it’s just a failed attempt to stay visible during this crisis.

No matter the rationale, Biden continues to remind voters every day that he is unfit to be president.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/04/10/6_biden_lies_about_trumps_covid_response.html#!

That makes perfect sense?

Biden inherites a year of covid spread with 400k dead.

And he is responsible for 266k deaths.

What logic are you applying?

No logic. Just the mindless spew and regurgitation of propaganda. And Trump's words were "This is the latest Democratic hoax"
.... I know that because I heard those words out of his own mouth ... along with "it will all just magically disappear" and other such tripe.

I did no such thing... However, I will say it now. It's been a mess for 50 years.. No president has done anything right about the Border...

The illegals slowed under Obama, but picked up towards the end of his term.. Under Trump, all he did was stop them from coming across via normal routes,, they still found a way in. Bidens policy isn't working either.

Nobody has succeeded in this area. Not even the Great Ronnie....

The Great Ronnie pardoned over 2 million of them....

A Reagan Legacy: Amnesty For Illegal Immigrants

https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128303672

Here's the irony. They have no idea how many are getting past border security now. They have no idea how many were getting past border security under Trump. They have no numbers, no facts and nothing of substance either way.

But after five years of silence about it here they are throwing crap against the wall hoping something sticks.

They complained and made it sound like the worst thing since the Hindenburg that between 12 and 15 thousand Haitians gathered under that bridge in Del Rio Texas. Not a word from them when we started mass deporting them back to Haiti.

Some things never change.

I guess you didn't like the low inflation, best employment ever, Crime way down, immigration under control.
I could go on but its a waste of time. Enjoy your time with Biden or whoever is running the country now.

Immigration was never "under control". News flash. Mexico didn't pay for the small amount of the new wall that was built either.

When the economy is already healthy and you use tax cuts of course the economy number look good. Trump inherited a great economy, he didn't build one. And even with that he used every tool you're only supposed to use to help stabilize a bad economy.

Of course you believe everything he told you so it's no wonder you're still confused.

Steve Bannon(trump guru) direct quote:

""'People are going to go 'What the [expletive] is going on here?' Bannon believed. 'We're going to bury Biden on January 6th, [expletive] bury him.'
"If Republicans could cast enough of a shadow on Biden's victory on January 6, Bannon said, it would be hard for Biden to govern. Millions of Americans would consider him illegitimate. They would ignore him. They would dismiss him and wait for Trump to run again.
"'We are going to kill it in the crib. Kill the Biden presidency in the crib,' he said."

Real patriot huh?

His lawyers:
Michael Cohen
Rudy

Campaign manager:
Paul Manafort

National Security Adviser:
Michale Flynn
"They might be putting covid vaccine in your salad dressing"

Great lineup for leading a country

The cult have been given their narrative, they regurgitate it without thinking and without fact.

Interesting comments from Bannon.... What another POS. And the cult too dumb to realize what he said and what they did and continue to do.