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There were 2 separate times late in the game yesterday when Baker scrambled out of bounds for short gains and the clock kept running. Am I totally missing some rule on clock stoppage, or was it 2 bad operator blunders in our favor that went completely unnoticed by both coaching staffs and the announcers? (seems super unlikely, but ?)

Doesn’t the clock keep running unless it’s under 5 minutes?

I'm not having any luck finding the rules on it, but I believe that there is something about it in the last two minutes of the first half and the last five minutes of the second half of a game.

Correct. Stops until the ball is snapped under 2 minutes in the first half or under 5 minutes in the 4th quarter.

When did NFL clock rules change?
For decades, when a player with the ball went out of bounds, the clock stopped, with the clock not starting again until the ball was snapped for the next play. This too, will change in 2008.

What stops the clock in the NFL?
The game clock stops if a player in possession of the ball steps out of the field of play in the last 2 minutes of the first half or the last 5 minutes of the second half.

Why does the clock not stop when out of bounds NFL?
The receiver caught the ball and was pushed out of bounds by the defender with the offensive player’s momentum going backward at the time. The sideline official ruled that the offensive player’s forward momentum was stopped while inbounds, so the clock continued to run even though he went out of bounds.

Why does the clock not stop in football?
The game clock stops when a ball carrier goes out of bounds maintaining forward momentum. The game clock continues if the ball carrier’s forward momentum is stopped in bounds before he goes out of bounds. For most of the game, the clock is restarted when the line judge resets the ball and whistles play to continue.

https://www.mvorganizing.org/when-did-nfl-clock-rules-change/#When_did_NFL_clock_rules_change

Think how long the game would be now if they stopped it after every out of bounds?

Think how much extra commercial time the league got when they changed the rule

Wow, how have I not noticed this for 13 years! LOL

Thanks folks.

Well, as a Browns fan, you've spent a lot of time knowing the Browns wouldn't be worried about the clock... usually starting shortly after the National Anthem.

altered to reflect Browns History, 1999-2019

I feel seen.

they just rushed through the rule change one pre season with little fuss, I think because of the awful premise that only television entitys' interests matter.
But!
IIRC. I think there was a part I didn't... well I could understand it, but I couldn't make it make sense in my mind, so that it would just come without having to think about it.

If a defender pushes someone out of bounds it's meant to be one way, (spirit of the rule) but they didn't make it read that way, so, they made it read, >
If the runner goes out of bounds at a losing yardage angle. It's different than if the runner runs out of bounds at a gaining yardage angle. ( because the implied assumption is that one side wishes to keep the clock moving on a run play, (of course the off.) (or the implied assumption that a trailing team, hoping for more time to regain the lead would not run the ball to waste time, out of bounds.)
Now^^, here's the kicker/the thing; I never could remember, when I remember hearing that rule described, which brand of football I remember it being described for.
NfL, other? cfl, College, arena, or High school.

Now, I know, in Arena Football. which is separate from indoor, (or do I have that vice versa), that uhh,
a player can bounce off the outside padding and still be in bounds if he is not pushed by a defender into the outside padding, along the wall.

But I'm pretty sure, the forward vs. backward angle, (and that's not a players posture or stance, but the angle, relative to gaining yardage or losing yardage,) description equaling a qualifier as to whether to stop the clock or not,
was in one of the versions of football that had a regular sideline.

See. I don't understand it at all. It's freeing stupid because only a team in the lead would want the clock to Keep running! assuming, and
There's no way to guarantee the leading team is on offense or defense.

This rule irriates me. Keep it simple.

Isn't there something also about having to go out of bounds going forward? I think it you go out of bounds backwards in that time frame it still runs....

Seems with the clock still running now, they would lose commercial time.

Either way, they still get the same amount. They just build in TV time outs to meet the need/demand.

The next time you go to a game in person, look for the person wearing a red hat. They are the person in direct contact with the producer in the booth and the refs who is responsible for holding up the game action until the networks are back on air.

During any game the producer knows how many commercials are scheduled. It's their job to get them in, and that includes injury timeouts. They factor in so many per game.

The big advertisers also have to buy so many conditional spots per game. Those air at a reduced rate. So if Budweiser is scheduled to air 4 commercials during the game, if more injury timeouts happen than is normally allotted, Bud gets a 5th or 6th spot added at a reduced rate. You probably have ads that are scheduled only if the normal allotment is met. In other words, a ad by Rocket Mortgage might get on air, or might not depending on if the required ad allotments have already been met.

I belive anyone in a red hat is league personnel, one of which does the job you describe. There are other league people doing other jobs wearing red hats as well.

Maybe you're right. I just know that you will find one somewhere near the sideline official in charge of the clock.

They aren't obvious as in standing right next to them, but they are around.

One game this weekend I saw a gaggle of the red hats that I belive was the concussion team people.

LOL...that could be as well.

I suppose it could be argued that more penalties plays in to player safety. It gives players a longer rest between plays more often.

Then again, it is just that many more plays they actually have to play.

They did this to speed up games.

Read about it here.

Yeah, I'm still amazed I never noticed before. I guess I'm only glancing at the clock or paying attention to stoppage in the last few minutes of a half, when it does stop.